Mini RTW Questions
Jan 8, 2017, 4:18 am
#4726
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I don't think that's correct. I just dug up the information from the AE website:
28. On roundtrip rewards, stopovers are permitted as follows:
28.1. Travel within Canada or between Canada and the Continental USA (not including Hawaii/Puerto Rico): One stopover permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of the one stopover.
28.2. Between Canada/Cont. USA and Hawaii/Puerto Rico/Mexico/Central America/Caribbean:
28.2.1. Rule for rewards containing only Air Canada flight: Two stopovers are permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of one stopover.
28.2.2. Rule for rewards containing a minimum of one flight on a Star Alliance partner other than Air Canada: One stopover is permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in addition to the one stopover.
28.3. Intercontinental travel (travel between two continents): Two stopovers permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of one of the two stopovers.
28.4. Intracontinental travel (travel within the same continent) except for travel within Canada/Continental USA, or between Canada/Cont. USA and Hawaii/Puerto Rico/Mexico/Central America/Caribbean: Stopovers are not permitted. One open jaw is permitted.
Jan 8, 2017, 4:21 am
#4727
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I don't think that's correct. I just dug up the information from the AE website:
28. On roundtrip rewards, stopovers are permitted as follows:
28.1. Travel within Canada or between Canada and the Continental USA (not including Hawaii/Puerto Rico): One stopover permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of the one stopover.
28.2. Between Canada/Cont. USA and Hawaii/Puerto Rico/Mexico/Central America/Caribbean:
28.2.1. Rule for rewards containing only Air Canada flight: Two stopovers are permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of one stopover.
28.2.2. Rule for rewards containing a minimum of one flight on a Star Alliance partner other than Air Canada: One stopover is permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in addition to the one stopover.
28.3. Intercontinental travel (travel between two continents): Two stopovers permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of one of the two stopovers.
28.4. Intracontinental travel (travel within the same continent) except for travel within Canada/Continental USA, or between Canada/Cont. USA and Hawaii/Puerto Rico/Mexico/Central America/Caribbean: Stopovers are not permitted. One open jaw is permitted.
28. On roundtrip rewards, stopovers are permitted as follows:
28.1. Travel within Canada or between Canada and the Continental USA (not including Hawaii/Puerto Rico): One stopover permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of the one stopover.
28.2. Between Canada/Cont. USA and Hawaii/Puerto Rico/Mexico/Central America/Caribbean:
28.2.1. Rule for rewards containing only Air Canada flight: Two stopovers are permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of one stopover.
28.2.2. Rule for rewards containing a minimum of one flight on a Star Alliance partner other than Air Canada: One stopover is permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in addition to the one stopover.
28.3. Intercontinental travel (travel between two continents): Two stopovers permitted in addition to the point of turnaround. One open jaw is permitted in lieu of one of the two stopovers.
28.4. Intracontinental travel (travel within the same continent) except for travel within Canada/Continental USA, or between Canada/Cont. USA and Hawaii/Puerto Rico/Mexico/Central America/Caribbean: Stopovers are not permitted. One open jaw is permitted.
Jan 8, 2017, 12:24 pm
#4728
Join Date: Jan 2017
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thanks for everyone's input.
looks like we will have our work cut out for us. not booking for a while, but will confirm stop over between asia 1 and asia 2/europe 1 and europe 2
looks like we will have our work cut out for us. not booking for a while, but will confirm stop over between asia 1 and asia 2/europe 1 and europe 2
Jan 8, 2017, 1:00 pm
#4729
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Try it in multi city. If it lets you do one stopover, you could probably pull off two
Jan 10, 2017, 12:20 pm
#4730
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Looking for recommendations on business class mRTW.
Going to do YOW->Tokyo as a start.. gives me lots of allowance for stopovers. Need to stick within Star Alliance.
1st thought for a stop is Koh Samui, serviced by Thai.
Unsure on 2nd - so many options, but wondering if any experts here know some that are considered good bang-for-the buck - good planes, obscure locations still serviced by Star Alliance, or good lounges. (Avoiding LHR->YOW return would be great due to J class taxes.)
Looking for J class is fun - opposite of economy. Longer the flight, the better!
Going to do YOW->Tokyo as a start.. gives me lots of allowance for stopovers. Need to stick within Star Alliance.
1st thought for a stop is Koh Samui, serviced by Thai.
Unsure on 2nd - so many options, but wondering if any experts here know some that are considered good bang-for-the buck - good planes, obscure locations still serviced by Star Alliance, or good lounges. (Avoiding LHR->YOW return would be great due to J class taxes.)
Looking for J class is fun - opposite of economy. Longer the flight, the better!
Jan 10, 2017, 10:15 pm
#4731
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Question about mini RTW's using AE
Hey everyone,
It's been a long time since I've been on these forums and had a few quick questions:
1) Are AE miles still useful for *A J/F?
2) MPM+5% rule still applies?
3) Unlimited >24 hour stopovers with 3 destination still the case?
4) Are there still carriers that don't have YQ for AE bookings?
Have a ton of AMEX/SPG points to convert and I'm curious if AE is the way to go still or if I should choose another carrier and do some research.
Thank you very much for the assistance in advance!!! Really appreciate this community
It's been a long time since I've been on these forums and had a few quick questions:
1) Are AE miles still useful for *A J/F?
2) MPM+5% rule still applies?
3) Unlimited >24 hour stopovers with 3 destination still the case?
4) Are there still carriers that don't have YQ for AE bookings?
Have a ton of AMEX/SPG points to convert and I'm curious if AE is the way to go still or if I should choose another carrier and do some research.
Thank you very much for the assistance in advance!!! Really appreciate this community
Jan 10, 2017, 11:30 pm
#4732
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1. Yes
2. No, it's a weird Aeroplan-specific routing system now. There's a thread that talks about the mileages. Lots of good ones are still available.
3. Not "unlimited", but yes.
4. Yes, and I can't even recall if it's changed much in the past couple years.
And when are we grabbing that drink?
2. No, it's a weird Aeroplan-specific routing system now. There's a thread that talks about the mileages. Lots of good ones are still available.
3. Not "unlimited", but yes.
4. Yes, and I can't even recall if it's changed much in the past couple years.
And when are we grabbing that drink?
Jan 11, 2017, 12:05 am
#4733
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1. Yes
2. No, it's a weird Aeroplan-specific routing system now. There's a thread that talks about the mileages. Lots of good ones are still available.
3. Not "unlimited", but yes.
4. Yes, and I can't even recall if it's changed much in the past couple years.
And when are we grabbing that drink?
2. No, it's a weird Aeroplan-specific routing system now. There's a thread that talks about the mileages. Lots of good ones are still available.
3. Not "unlimited", but yes.
4. Yes, and I can't even recall if it's changed much in the past couple years.
And when are we grabbing that drink?
I'm in YYC now and work out of YVR/YWG almost exclusively. No travel besides the RTW I hope to book for this spring! Are you in YYC/YVR/YWG in the near future? If not, I'll make sure I SFO stopover at least 24 hours for that drink
Jan 23, 2017, 4:29 pm
#4734
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Has anyone been able too book a flight to USM?
I am thinking of YEG-YVR-TPE-BKK-USM USM-MEL MEL-AKL AKL-BNE-TPE-YVR-YEG
My issue is USM is only serviced via bkk and sin, but the sin flights are on silkair... I am assuming this would make usm unbookable? I believe one cannot book SQ flights on Silkair?
I am thinking of YEG-YVR-TPE-BKK-USM USM-MEL MEL-AKL AKL-BNE-TPE-YVR-YEG
My issue is USM is only serviced via bkk and sin, but the sin flights are on silkair... I am assuming this would make usm unbookable? I believe one cannot book SQ flights on Silkair?
Jan 23, 2017, 4:33 pm
#4735
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Correct. Neither Silkair flights nor Thai Smile flights are bookable using *A miles.
The easiest option may be to purchase a cheap ticket on Bangkok Airways.
The easiest option may be to purchase a cheap ticket on Bangkok Airways.
Jan 23, 2017, 4:42 pm
#4736
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Has anyone been able too book a flight to USM?
I am thinking of YEG-YVR-TPE-BKK-USM USM-MEL MEL-AKL AKL-BNE-TPE-YVR-YEG
My issue is USM is only serviced via bkk and sin, but the sin flights are on silkair... I am assuming this would make usm unbookable? I believe one cannot book SQ flights on Silkair?
I am thinking of YEG-YVR-TPE-BKK-USM USM-MEL MEL-AKL AKL-BNE-TPE-YVR-YEG
My issue is USM is only serviced via bkk and sin, but the sin flights are on silkair... I am assuming this would make usm unbookable? I believe one cannot book SQ flights on Silkair?
TG does have one or two flights per day to USM, but they're a bit hard to book because, well, only one or two per day. PG (Bangkok Airways) is the much easier option. Just transfer 5,000 SPG to JAL and use their neverending PG promo (5,000 miles for up to 3 flights on PG as long as under X miles). Best deal ever, considering there are like 12 flights a day to USM. If you don't have SPG, just open a SPG Amex, that'll get you 4 people's worth of flights!
Jan 23, 2017, 4:47 pm
#4737
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SilkAir is not only not bookable, but on the off chance your SQ flight EVER gets swapped for an MI flight, you're done for - AC will not be able to reissue your ticket, even if SQ correctly protects you onto the new flight. It's weird as hell.
TG does have one or two flights per day to USM, but they're a bit hard to book because, well, only one or two per day. PG (Bangkok Airways) is the much easier option. Just transfer 5,000 SPG to JAL and use their neverending PG promo (5,000 miles for up to 3 flights on PG as long as under X miles). Best deal ever, considering there are like 12 flights a day to USM. If you don't have SPG, just open a SPG Amex, that'll get you 4 people's worth of flights!
TG does have one or two flights per day to USM, but they're a bit hard to book because, well, only one or two per day. PG (Bangkok Airways) is the much easier option. Just transfer 5,000 SPG to JAL and use their neverending PG promo (5,000 miles for up to 3 flights on PG as long as under X miles). Best deal ever, considering there are like 12 flights a day to USM. If you don't have SPG, just open a SPG Amex, that'll get you 4 people's worth of flights!
If thats the case thats an amazing find!
Jan 23, 2017, 4:53 pm
#4738
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https://www.jal.co.jp/121campaign/pg.../index_en.html
Make sure to:
a) call JAL first to make sure there are flights. There are 12 per day, but during high seasons the availability can be low during high seasons). I had no problem finding BKK-USM a few months out, then they got more sparse. I had zero problems booking BKK-REP in mid-December, though, 3 flights per day out of 4 were open.
b) get a referral if you don't have a friend with one
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c) maximise! the JAL promo permits triangle trips (ie BKK - Chiang Mai - Ko Samui - BKK) for the same price.
Jan 23, 2017, 4:58 pm
#4739
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Yup. Note the flight promo ends Sep 2017 (for now; it's been "extended" for the last 5 years, haha).
https://www.jal.co.jp/121campaign/pg.../index_en.html
Make sure to:
a) call JAL first to make sure there are flights. There are 12 per day, but during high seasons the availability can be low during high seasons). I had no problem finding BKK-USM a few months out, then they got more sparse. I had zero problems booking BKK-REP in mid-December, though, 3 flights per day out of 4 were open.
b) get a referral if you don't have a friend with one
[edit]
c) maximise! the JAL promo permits triangle trips (ie BKK - Chiang Mai - Ko Samui - BKK) for the same price.
https://www.jal.co.jp/121campaign/pg.../index_en.html
Make sure to:
a) call JAL first to make sure there are flights. There are 12 per day, but during high seasons the availability can be low during high seasons). I had no problem finding BKK-USM a few months out, then they got more sparse. I had zero problems booking BKK-REP in mid-December, though, 3 flights per day out of 4 were open.
b) get a referral if you don't have a friend with one
[edit]
c) maximise! the JAL promo permits triangle trips (ie BKK - Chiang Mai - Ko Samui - BKK) for the same price.
Jan 23, 2017, 5:01 pm
#4740
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I don't have my eticket handy (JAL sucks about mailing etickets... be forewarned), but:
- BKK-REP was something like $50 USD for _three_ people
- BKK-USM was less than half of that (domestic fees are VERY cheap)
There are no change or cancellation fees, however, the ticket is nonchg / nonref 48 hours and less prior. Up to that point you can do anything you want.
JAL really does have a pretty decent program, heh.
- BKK-REP was something like $50 USD for _three_ people
- BKK-USM was less than half of that (domestic fees are VERY cheap)
There are no change or cancellation fees, however, the ticket is nonchg / nonref 48 hours and less prior. Up to that point you can do anything you want.
JAL really does have a pretty decent program, heh.