Changes to your Qualification Period
#31
Join Date: Mar 2024
Posts: 7
My EI Platinum status ends in early March and my Tier credits will reset to zero. I expect to drop back to Silver.
I have some trips in late March and will earn new credits for those flights - but they’ll promptly be lost on 1 April…
Will the count-back provision mean that the lost credits can still count toward rebuilding my Tier status after 1 April?
I have some trips in late March and will earn new credits for those flights - but they’ll promptly be lost on 1 April…
Will the count-back provision mean that the lost credits can still count toward rebuilding my Tier status after 1 April?
#32
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LHR, MSN
Programs: WFBF, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 204
Otherwise, potential TC run it is
#33
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,068
My EI Platinum status ends in early March and my Tier credits will reset to zero. I expect to drop back to Silver.
I have some trips in late March and will earn new credits for those flights - but they’ll promptly be lost on 1 April…
Will the count-back provision mean that the lost credits can still count toward rebuilding my Tier status after 1 April?
I have some trips in late March and will earn new credits for those flights - but they’ll promptly be lost on 1 April…
Will the count-back provision mean that the lost credits can still count toward rebuilding my Tier status after 1 April?
Therefore, if you drop to Silver in March on your anniversary date, but on the recalculation you earned enough Tier Credits for Platinum based on 1 April 2023 to 31 March 2024 flying, you would then be upgraded to Platinum again, if you have enough Tier Credits.
#34
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,068
Will end March at 272.5 including last year's tier points. I'm hoping I'm in the same boat as BristolFlyer as I do have a booked Business return in May linked to my account that I was banking on putting me over the threshold, but not sure what the goodwill policy/how close you have to be will be to get the upgrade when things switch in April.
Otherwise, potential TC run it is
Otherwise, potential TC run it is
By the skin of your teeth!
#35
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 37
I have mixed feelings about this. Current TP year starts October. Currently silver with 150 points accrued for this year. If they do the look back thing then I would have over 460 points which would put me within sniffing distance of Platinum but there’s no way I can realistically achieve the flights needed to get 150 points in the next month 🫤. Or maybe I’m misunderstanding this? If I *were* to manage 150 pts before end of March, would I achieve platinum?
#36
Join Date: Mar 2024
Posts: 7
Yes, all your flights 1 April 2023 to 31 March 2024 will count for your status from 1 April 2024.
Therefore, if you drop to Silver in March on your anniversary date, but on the recalculation you earned enough Tier Credits for Platinum based on 1 April 2023 to 31 March 2024 flying, you would then be upgraded to Platinum again, if you have enough Tier Credits.
Therefore, if you drop to Silver in March on your anniversary date, but on the recalculation you earned enough Tier Credits for Platinum based on 1 April 2023 to 31 March 2024 flying, you would then be upgraded to Platinum again, if you have enough Tier Credits.
For example, if I earn 550 points between say April and October 2024, will I still be short of Platinum even though I’d earned 650 points if including the lost points earned in March 2024? Without this change, I’d regain Platinum sooner.
#37
Join Date: Jul 2022
Programs: AerClub Concierge, Hilton Gold, Marriott Silver, Accor ALL Silver, NH Platinum
Posts: 189
I have mixed feelings about this. Current TP year starts October. Currently silver with 150 points accrued for this year. If they do the look back thing then I would have over 460 points which would put me within sniffing distance of Platinum but there’s no way I can realistically achieve the flights needed to get 150 points in the next month 🫤. Or maybe I’m misunderstanding this? If I *were* to manage 150 pts before end of March, would I achieve platinum?
#38
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,068
Many thanks for your help with this. Unfortunately I won’t have enough credits to regain Platinum until I’ve earned (a lot) more credits after 1 April. My concern is that the 100 credits I’ll earn in late March (and lose on 1 April) will no longer help me get back to Platinum after 1 April. If so, it would leave me 100 credits behind where I’d otherwise be, so I’d be disadvantaged.
For example, if I earn 550 points between say April and October 2024, will I still be short of Platinum even though I’d earned 650 points if including the lost points earned in March 2024? Without this change, I’d regain Platinum sooner.
For example, if I earn 550 points between say April and October 2024, will I still be short of Platinum even though I’d earned 650 points if including the lost points earned in March 2024? Without this change, I’d regain Platinum sooner.
#39
Join Date: Mar 2024
Posts: 7
You are correct, using that example. Those 100 credits will be assigned to the 1 April 2023 to 31 March 2024 year and will expire on 1 April 2024 (or 10 April as they seem to have a switchover delay this year). So yes, without the change, you would have regained Platinum sooner - using your example.
#40
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 665
A sudden change which effectively wipes out earned TPs without notice for some seems unnecessary. The similar BA change seems better planned, using April 2024 to 2025 year instead of EI's retrospective April 2023 to 2024 year: for BA the current in-progress TP year remains the same and overlaps with a new April 24 to April 25 TP year, and you can qualify for either, and know in advance what's happening
#41
Join Date: Dec 2017
Programs: EI Concierge, HH Diamond, Bonvoy Silver, IHG Platinum
Posts: 81
I think I agree with you both. This is actually a pretty lousy way to treat loyal customers. Extending status by a few months is superficially ‘customer friendly’, but when you think on it just a bit, it really knocks for six people who’ve engaged with the programme in good faith. The people who gain most are those who would have lost status annyway and many people who are gunning to achieve or retain status will be kicked to the kerb.
Concierge customers are just plain worse off. They’re supposed for get 4 upgrades every year, but with this change they’ll only get 4 upgrades in 18 months in this cycle (in my case) or even longer for customers with anniversary’s dates earlier in the year. And they’ll get less for exactly the same amount of flying, as we got no notice of the change
I don’t think they’re being underhand deliberately, as I genuinely think they were trying to do right by customers while keeping thing simple, but they just haven’t thought this through properly. BA’s more complicated approach is ultimately more customer friendly and respectful of their customers.
poor show by EI on this one. I really hope they’ll reconsider and allow people to qualify based on either the new status year or the existing status year.
Concierge customers are just plain worse off. They’re supposed for get 4 upgrades every year, but with this change they’ll only get 4 upgrades in 18 months in this cycle (in my case) or even longer for customers with anniversary’s dates earlier in the year. And they’ll get less for exactly the same amount of flying, as we got no notice of the change
I don’t think they’re being underhand deliberately, as I genuinely think they were trying to do right by customers while keeping thing simple, but they just haven’t thought this through properly. BA’s more complicated approach is ultimately more customer friendly and respectful of their customers.
poor show by EI on this one. I really hope they’ll reconsider and allow people to qualify based on either the new status year or the existing status year.
Last edited by Teplane; Mar 1, 2024 at 12:53 pm
#42
Join Date: Mar 2024
Posts: 7
A sudden change which effectively wipes out earned TPs without notice for some seems unnecessary. The similar BA change seems better planned, using April 2024 to 2025 year instead of EI's retrospective April 2023 to 2024 year: for BA the current in-progress TP year remains the same and overlaps with a new April 24 to April 25 TP year, and you can qualify for either, and know in advance what's happening
#43
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 37
What we all need is a double TP promotion RIGHT NOW!! Someone pull some strings!
#44
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: ba exec gold, EI Concierge
Posts: 6
My take is that they are absolutely punishing high earning flyers whose anniversary is later in the year . I would have requalified for concierge by the end of April based on the old system and that loyalty looks like it’s being wiped out . In theory someone who has a concierge twist date in earlier months of the new cycle could have status now until April 2026 and probably have had a chance to use their existing vouchers and they additionally get another set.
In theory those particular flyers could redirect spend towards gaining status on a different FF programme for nearly a year with no effect.
If they had given proper notice, I could have directed flights strategically in a much better way and still retained the tier status as I have nearly 1800TPs going from Apr 23 to 24
In theory those particular flyers could redirect spend towards gaining status on a different FF programme for nearly a year with no effect.
If they had given proper notice, I could have directed flights strategically in a much better way and still retained the tier status as I have nearly 1800TPs going from Apr 23 to 24
Last edited by thelonglane; Mar 1, 2024 at 1:08 pm
#45
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,068
A sudden change which effectively wipes out earned TPs without notice for some seems unnecessary. The similar BA change seems better planned, using April 2024 to 2025 year instead of EI's retrospective April 2023 to 2024 year: for BA the current in-progress TP year remains the same and overlaps with a new April 24 to April 25 TP year, and you can qualify for either, and know in advance what's happening
My take is that they are absolutely punishing high earning dyers whose anniversary is later in the year . I would have requalified for concierge by the end of April based on the old system and that loyalty looks like it’s being wiped out . In theory somonee who has a concierge twist date in earlier months of the new cycle could have status now until April 2026 and probably have had a chance to use their existing vouchers and they additionally get another set.
In theory those flyers could redirect spend towards gaining status on a different FF programme for nearly a year with no effect.
If they had given proper notice, I could have directed flights strategically in a much better way and still retained the tier status.
In theory those flyers could redirect spend towards gaining status on a different FF programme for nearly a year with no effect.
If they had given proper notice, I could have directed flights strategically in a much better way and still retained the tier status.
Aer Lingus value their Concierge customers greatly, so the intent certainly would not be to put anyone's nose out of joint and for the vast majority of people, the changes will be beneficial. However, as has been pointed out, there will be cases where things are not so cut and dried.