Feb 23, 2015, 6:35 am
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
With the evolution of the Miles&Bonus program, there are a number of threads on this forum that contain outdated information, plus a further set that - whilst describing the new program - contain conflicting information that has only been crystallised as we all discover how certain aspects of the program either work or are interpreted.
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
Flame-Free Questions on A3 - ask your newbie (and not so newbie) questions here
Sep 11, 2018, 3:59 pm
#1696
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Bainbridge Island, WA
Posts: 8,964
Thanks.....at the moment the flight is showing only 2 rows set aside for business. Normally I would grab row 3 but I wonder if I might run the risk of them expanding business class another row and moving us to much less desirable seat.
Sep 11, 2018, 6:29 pm
#1698
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,566
Sep 18, 2018, 3:27 am
#1702
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Dublin/Brussels
Programs: A3*S, FB*S, AerClub*S, Hertz PC
Posts: 39
Is owenrudge still a trustworthy tool to calculate tier earnings or are there any other tools around?
I recently travelled TP in the BRU-LIS-VGO route with a quite expensive L fare, that gives 50% miles (I erroneously thought I had booked a higher fare class). Owenrudge calculated 653 miles (533 for the BRU-LIS and 120 for the LIS-VGO leg) but I got credited 853, approx 30% more miles (BRU-LIS gave 548, LIS-VGO 305) . I've often seen inaccuracies of the tool in the past but it is always within a 2-10 miles range.
PS: On a slightly irrelevant side note, completely appalling behaviour from the ground staff TP rents in the BRU baggage drop-off area. The night before the flight I had received an SMS from TP claiming that I could check for free my hand luggage. The girl strictly denied accommodating the request claiming that she had never seen a TP SMS before. She also claimed that hand luggage refers to my laptop bag, not my cabin so I could check in the laptop bag only
Whereas technically correct for most airlines, TP's lingo uses the terms hand and cabin baggage interchangeably.
In the meantime, her colleague was giving a hard time to a couple with Brazilian passports who were 1.4 kg over allowance. They were trying to communicate with her in a mix of broken French/English and she was just replying in Dutch.
I recently travelled TP in the BRU-LIS-VGO route with a quite expensive L fare, that gives 50% miles (I erroneously thought I had booked a higher fare class). Owenrudge calculated 653 miles (533 for the BRU-LIS and 120 for the LIS-VGO leg) but I got credited 853, approx 30% more miles (BRU-LIS gave 548, LIS-VGO 305) . I've often seen inaccuracies of the tool in the past but it is always within a 2-10 miles range.
PS: On a slightly irrelevant side note, completely appalling behaviour from the ground staff TP rents in the BRU baggage drop-off area. The night before the flight I had received an SMS from TP claiming that I could check for free my hand luggage. The girl strictly denied accommodating the request claiming that she had never seen a TP SMS before. She also claimed that hand luggage refers to my laptop bag, not my cabin so I could check in the laptop bag only
Whereas technically correct for most airlines, TP's lingo uses the terms hand and cabin baggage interchangeably. In the meantime, her colleague was giving a hard time to a couple with Brazilian passports who were 1.4 kg over allowance. They were trying to communicate with her in a mix of broken French/English and she was just replying in Dutch.
Sep 18, 2018, 5:28 am
#1703
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rhineland-Palatinate
Programs: *A Gold (A3), HHonor Gold
Posts: 5,699
I used Owen Rudge calculator to plan my A3 earning and it is always correct, in a +/- 15 miles range. It seems the LIS-VGO leg was the wrong one, could it be it was a different fare for that segment ?
Sep 18, 2018, 12:06 pm
#1704
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Dublin/Brussels
Programs: A3*S, FB*S, AerClub*S, Hertz PC
Posts: 39
Both segments were on L fare. The LIS-VGO leg was supposed to be operated by White Airways but we had a TAP Express ATR, I guess because both airlines are TP owned?
Do you also know if the hardcopy of the boarding pass you receive in the baggage drop-off area has to show the actual fare class or just shows the generic class (ie Y for economy, J for business etc)?
Do you also know if the hardcopy of the boarding pass you receive in the baggage drop-off area has to show the actual fare class or just shows the generic class (ie Y for economy, J for business etc)?
Sep 19, 2018, 6:35 am
#1707
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 56
I am trying to purchase a ticket from Istanbul - Athens - Belgrade (one ticket) with Aegean Airlines. My country is not listed as one of the countries that need a transit visa (https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/transit-schengen-visa/). But just to make sure is the transfer in Athens airside? Since I checked in Agean website that I need to go to passport control
https://en.aegeanair.com/travel-info...ng-passengers/
in timatic:
- stay in the international transit area of the airport, and
- have documents required for the next destination.
Also on the returning flight, will Agean Airlines checked my luggage to my final destination if I have a separate ticket with Turkish airlines from Istanbul? The belgrade - Athens will be with aegean but athens to istanbul will be on olympic (one ticket). Thanks.
https://en.aegeanair.com/travel-info...ng-passengers/
in timatic:
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Passengers transiting through Athens (ATH) and arriving from a non-Schengen Member State with a confirmed onward ticket for a flight within 24 hours to a third country which is not a Schengen Member State. They must:- stay in the international transit area of the airport, and
- have documents required for the next destination.
Also on the returning flight, will Agean Airlines checked my luggage to my final destination if I have a separate ticket with Turkish airlines from Istanbul? The belgrade - Athens will be with aegean but athens to istanbul will be on olympic (one ticket). Thanks.
Sep 19, 2018, 11:02 am
#1708
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: OTP/KRK
Programs: M&M FTL, Miles+Bonus Gold
Posts: 664
in 2017 I flew from OTP to ATH (non-Schengen) and from there I had to fly to LCA on Emirates flight (ATH-LCA-DXB at that time) which was leaving from non-Schengen area (its final destination was non-Schengen) and I had to pass thru passport control and security check, I think you will be fine because that passport control is not for entering in Greece but other purpose.
Sep 19, 2018, 6:29 pm
#1709
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,566
in 2017 I flew from OTP to ATH (non-Schengen) and from there I had to fly to LCA on Emirates flight (ATH-LCA-DXB at that time) which was leaving from non-Schengen area (its final destination was non-Schengen) and I had to pass thru passport control and security check, I think you will be fine because that passport control is not for entering in Greece but other purpose.
Sep 19, 2018, 11:55 pm
#1710
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,372
in 2017 I flew from OTP to ATH (non-Schengen) and from there I had to fly to LCA on Emirates flight (ATH-LCA-DXB at that time) which was leaving from non-Schengen area (its final destination was non-Schengen) and I had to pass thru passport control and security check, I think you will be fine because that passport control is not for entering in Greece but other purpose.