FAQ No. 3 for Aegean Miles & Bonus: How many Miles&Bonus miles will I earn?
#391
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Victoria, BC
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P is a heavily discounted fare class for all major star operators. Therefore these flights generally earn very few, or no' miles at all. I would suspect that the AC earnings at 200% is outdated, possibly a mistake. That means you will receive the miles at 200% unless they change the earning rates in the time between now and your flight. Then you'd be out of luck.
Air Canada uses P as a low end business class fare (200% on A3)
Air China, Asiana and Thai use P as a first class fare (300% on A3)
ANA has P as a business class fare (200% on A3)
Austrian and Swiss (LH Group!) have P as "business class - highly discounted" (100% on A3)
Avianca and Croatia use P as an economy class fare (100% on A3)
Egyptair uses P as "First Class Discounted" (200% on A3)
SAS uses P as a high-end economy fare (200% on A3)
Shenzhen uses P as a business class fare (150% on A3)
Singapores uses P for premium economy (100% on A3)
TAP uses P for discounted economy (50% on A3)
United uses P for discounted business class (100% on A3)
Those not listed above either do not use booking class P or award 0%.
So in summary: P can be anything from low-end economy to first class in a three class configuration and can earn you anything from nothing to 300% miles flown. In short: there is no rhyme or reason.
#394
Join Date: Sep 2012
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#395
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Victoria, BC
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#396
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: London
Posts: 1,251
Lufthansa Premium Economy
I have an upcoming booking on Lufthansa in discounted premium economy, booking class N.
So, I'm a little concerned about this statement in the Miles+Bonus earnings chart for LH:
"Note: Miles cannot be earned in booking classes: O, I, X, R, N, L, T, E, K, P"
This hasn't been updated since 2014, before LH introduced Premium Economy, so I'm assuming it's out of date. Has anyone successfully credited LH premium economy to A3, and if so, what earning rate did you get?
So, I'm a little concerned about this statement in the Miles+Bonus earnings chart for LH:
"Note: Miles cannot be earned in booking classes: O, I, X, R, N, L, T, E, K, P"
This hasn't been updated since 2014, before LH introduced Premium Economy, so I'm assuming it's out of date. Has anyone successfully credited LH premium economy to A3, and if so, what earning rate did you get?
#398
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: London
Posts: 1,251
Earns zero as in "credit needs to be requested manually" or as in "no chance, you won't get your miles" ?
Other *A programmes do earn miles for class N on LH. Eg, Aeroplan's LH chart says:
"Effective for travel November 22, 2014, earn 100% in booking class N on The Rest of the World Flights, excluding Intra-European Flights. For travel until November 21, 2014, earn 0% "
Other *A programmes do earn miles for class N on LH. Eg, Aeroplan's LH chart says:
"Effective for travel November 22, 2014, earn 100% in booking class N on The Rest of the World Flights, excluding Intra-European Flights. For travel until November 21, 2014, earn 0% "
#399
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Location: Norwich, UK
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I have an upcoming booking on Lufthansa in discounted premium economy, booking class N.
So, I'm a little concerned about this statement in the Miles+Bonus earnings chart for LH:
"Note: Miles cannot be earned in booking classes: O, I, X, R, N, L, T, E, K, P"
This hasn't been updated since 2014, before LH introduced Premium Economy, so I'm assuming it's out of date. Has anyone successfully credited LH premium economy to A3, and if so, what earning rate did you get?
So, I'm a little concerned about this statement in the Miles+Bonus earnings chart for LH:
"Note: Miles cannot be earned in booking classes: O, I, X, R, N, L, T, E, K, P"
This hasn't been updated since 2014, before LH introduced Premium Economy, so I'm assuming it's out of date. Has anyone successfully credited LH premium economy to A3, and if so, what earning rate did you get?
The cabin is immaterial - it's what LH is prepared to pay A3 for any given fare bucket that matters. If they don't feel there's enough money for the amount paid against the service delivered, that payment will be close to or zero, and therefore the miles awarded will reflect that.
#400
Join Date: Mar 2013
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#401
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: London
Posts: 1,251
It's not just AC! All the other 5 or so *A airlines I checked show LH N as being a valid class for earning, at at least 100%. I think this is a case of A3 not keeping their earnings chart up to date.
In any case, I have sent them a query, so will see if that gets anywhere. I still have a couple of months before the booking in question, so could always credit the flights elsewhere if absolutely necessary.
In any case, I have sent them a query, so will see if that gets anywhere. I still have a couple of months before the booking in question, so could always credit the flights elsewhere if absolutely necessary.
#402
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I understand clinging on to hope, but I agree with rest of posters who says: If it says 0 miles in published chart, you will earn 0 miles IRL.
#403
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: London
Posts: 1,251
Hopefully they'll fix it at some point, though. I have sent a query online and if I don't hear back after a couple of weeks I'll try calling.
It is, of course, very strange that Lufthansa Economy flights would earn miles but Premium Economy do not!
#404
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P-class in Business also does not earn on LH - that's certainly a step up in 'quality' if you view it like that.
#405
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: London
Posts: 1,251
The 3 classes that LH use for Premium Economy are G, E, and N. Of those, G is shown as being Economy Class (!) and E and N are both shown as being non-earning. This is different from every other *A airline I checked, where all 3 are shown as premium economy class and all 3 earn full miles.
Is there some reason why A3 would intentionally be so wildly different from other *A partners when it comes to LH premium economy?