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Originally Posted by Boraxo
(Post 8577231)
To go from 2p to 1p would only earn you an extra 37k miles
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Originally Posted by United737522
(Post 8573148)
Most of you people are not making sense. You are cancelling trips and switching to other airlines (who might I add have never had DEQM promos and never will) just because UA did not offer the promo this year? The logic you must have doesn't exist.
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Originally Posted by mush
(Post 8578280)
I'll just shop around for flights, since the value of being loyal drops a lot.
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 8578292)
Though the value of your (lifetime) 1P status is greatly reduced if you're not flying UA.
In my own case, since it looks like no DEQM offer is forthcoming this year (though we don't really have a definitive answer, it seems at this point the silence speaks volumes), I have to look at Plans B and C for myself. Last year, I flew the BIS miles to earn 1K -- didn't make use of the pricey DEQM offer. But this year is different; I got a late start flying (didn't fly at all the first quarter of the year). I have now (more than) qualified for 1P, and will have nearly 62K EQMs by the end of October. That leaves me about 2 months in which to fly about 38K miles -- certainly quite doable. So, Plan B is to fly the paid BIS miles (possibly booking a Z fare or two, IF it makes economic sense, for the 150% EQM earnings). Plan C is to bag 1K and just book some award trips (if and when possible) for whatever flying I decide to do the rest of the year. Perhaps dropping down to a 1P next year (starting March 1) will be a good "reality check" to see if chasing 1K is really worth it. I've been disappointed in UA's service often enough to make me wonder.... (Of course, maybe I'll be even more disappointed as a 1P!) ;) |
Originally Posted by mush
(Post 8578280)
This is especially true if I am a million-miler with lifetime 1P; I'll just shop around for flights, since the value of being loyal drops a lot.
UA if you are listening, if you aren't going to have the DEQM, you need give MMers an incentive to fly 60 EQS /50 EQM each year. |
I hit 1k for the first time because of last year's DEQM. I found that I really enjoyed all the perks (starting with the huge RCC discount for me and my wife). It incented me to fly more, because flying became much more bearable with the extra upgrades and the RCC. This year it looks like I'll hit 1k without the DEQM, so from UA's perspective, DEQM for me served UA well. So while I'm happy there is no DEQM promo this year because it will keep the red carpet and business and first cabins less congested, I also recognize that UA is healthier when people fly more. I think UA is being short sighted. They should have the DEQM, albeit with a higher fee.
The coolest 1k moment this year: one of the elite gifts I got to pick from was giving my wife Premier Associate status. All of a sudden, the entire family of 4 got to travel in E+. Then waiting in Phoenix for a TED flight with a party of 6 including my wife, we are told the metal now has a first class cabin, and they needed to OU my wife and me to first class. The rest of my party was moved to E+ in a single row, with the center seats locked down as open (my condition for moving to first). Very cool. Living in CO, the only other airline with a hub here is Frontier, and at my height, I won't fly 50-100K miles per year without E+ leg room. I did LH BLR-FRA recently in coach, and it was agony. Doing FRA-ORD in E+ was heaven by comparison, even jammed against the window. So until other airlines embrace legroom, I really need UA to stay healthy, and stay healthy in DEN. Bring back the DEQM. Or change the platinum credit card to add more EQM with a higher annual fee if you must. But do something to get more flyers. |
Originally Posted by mre5765
(Post 8579458)
....You should look at asking for AA for equivalent 1K status, and get the AA credit card; I understand the AA credit card miles count as EQMs toward annual elite status and lifetime MM status; I know a couple people who achieved AA MM status with the AA credit card. Lifetime gold on AA and UA is nothing to sneeze at.
Second, it is TOTALLY, 100% FALSE that "AA credit card miles count as EQMs toward annual elite status." (I know -- I've had one of those AA credit cards for several years.) It IS true, on the other hand, that credit card miles, and all other bonus miles, DO count towards lifetime MM status on AA. Two entirely different things on AA -- annual status vs. lifetime status. @:-) @:-) @:-) |
Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
(Post 8579603)
First, I'm pretty sure that AA does NOT match top-level status (check on the AA board for confirmation).
Second, it is TOTALLY, 100% FALSE that "AA credit card miles count as EQMs toward annual elite status." (I know -- I've had one of those AA credit cards for several years.) It IS true, on the other hand, that credit card miles, and all other bonus miles, DO count towards lifetime MM status on AA. Two entirely different things on AA -- annual status vs. lifetime status. @:-) @:-) @:-) Question. Can you get life mid tier if you never flown with AA just by doing credit card and other mile stuff? |
Originally Posted by iwebslinger
(Post 8579694)
I believe you are correct on this.
Question. Can you get life mid tier if you never flown with AA just by doing credit card and other mile stuff? I believe it was AA that the famous Pudding Guy (an FTer, though he doesn't post often) got his miles on. Didn't he get lifetime AA status primarily (or entirely) by buying pudding cups? ;) Most of the AA miles I have earned are non-flight miles (from bonus offers, credit card spend, etc.) but some (a small number) actually are flight miles. OK, I realize we're going way off topic here. Not only off the posted topic, but even into another forum's bailiwick! :eek: |
Originally Posted by iwebslinger
(Post 8579694)
Can you get life mid tier if you never flown with AA just by doing credit card and other mile stuff?
Best, Dave |
For what it's worth...
My source who works for UA in Asia says it will NOT happen this year. While he does not work for HQ, his information has been pretty reliable. He was the first to say it would happen in 2005, before the public announcement.
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I suspect that UA has decided that the marginal increase in revenue from DEQM users isn't worth the downside of unhappy higher spending "real 1K", given the pending decrease in the number of F/C seats.
OTOH, it does create an odd situation with respect to users whose "natural" flying is ~70-80K (which is still a non-trivial spend). With DEQM, it makes sense for them to fly UA absolutely as much as possible all year (even on flights where UA is less convenient schedule or more expensive) and hope to make 1K on DEQM, with maybe a mini/semi-MR. This preference will be reinforced by the annoyance of flying with zero-status on another airline. Without DEQM, it makes much better sense for these users to earn 1P and low-tier status on another program -- that is, the user has an active reason to not fly UA on some flights. For long flights, 1P benefits (E+, exit row, intl lounge) will be enough better than low-tier benefits to make a difference, but for other flights -- price and convenience can now matter a lot more! ^ I'm not convinced this is a bad thing... |
Forget DEQM -- it just ain't gonna happen this year.
Instead, we should all be hoping for PEQM: Posting EQM's. 100 EQM for each post speculating about the DEQM promotion. A number of us would be 1K's already. :D |
Another sign of no systemwide DEQM offer this year?
Got this just now, doesn't seem to be a targetted offer:
Dear Mr. Ryu2, There's still time to qualify for this special United offer and qualify for 2008 elite status faster. For a limited time, you can earn an additional 50% Elite Qualifying Miles/Elite Qualifying Segments (100% total bonus) on flights in United First (F, A, P), United Business (C, D, Z) and full fare United Economy (Y, B). Offer is valid for travel through December 15, 2007. Valid routes to earn this EQM/EQS bonus are to/from*: Washington D.C. (IAD) - Los Angeles (LAX) Washington D.C. (IAD) - San Francisco (SFO) Washington D.C. (IAD) - Las Vegas (LAS) New York City (JFK) - Los Angeles (LAX) New York City (JFK) - San Francisco (SFO) REGISTER NOW http://mymileageplus.com/mmps/94308/...d691ef02bf532d Registration is required and must be completed by December 15, 2007. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - BOOK NOW http://mymileageplus.com/mmps/94309/...d691ef02bf532d Be sure to enter your origin city and destination city, and in the box labeled "Electronic Certificate or Promotion Code," enter MPD717. Flights eligible for this promotion will be identified with a green star. Fly across the country with United, and you're well on your way to elite status for 2008! ================================================== ========== *Offer valid on direct flights only. Connections do not qualify. Terms and Conditions: Participation in this offer does not guarantee elite status. Offer valid on flights operated by United, United Express(R), and Ted only and not applicable on United-marketed code-share flights operated by other carriers. Elite Qualifying Miles cannot be redeemed for award travel. Offer is combinable with other combinable offers. Mileage Plus number must be provided prior to flight departure for trip to qualify. Other restrictions may apply. Complete terms and conditions for this elite offer http://mymileageplus.com/mmps/94310/...d691ef02bf532d Additional Mileage Plus terms and conditions http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50450,00.html United reserves the right to change or terminate the Mileage Plus program at any time without notice. For complete details about the Mileage Plus program, visit http://www.united.com (MPD717) |
Got the same email, but this has been around for a long time.
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