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cepheid Oct 4, 2007 4:38 pm


Originally Posted by Javan69 (Post 8511057)
No way to take additional flights as I have the gf until 12/15

I'm sure the GF would appreciate a quick trip to HI... great fares in November! :D Just go for a long weekend...

GadgetFreak Oct 4, 2007 4:45 pm

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Originally Posted by jef7

Originally Posted by seafurydriver (Post 8506583)
I believe that United will pull back and make 1K harder and harder to get, with fewer and fewer perks. How far will it go?

With fewer and fewer perks? Hmm, I'm not sure if that makes sense.

I would speculate that the process of making it harder for 1K status to be achieved is in the drawing board. If indeed, the double EQM promotions will not be offered this year, then it would be a good indication that the tightening of the qualification process is in fact taking place.

But I don't see the perks decreasing. For this to make business sense, the process of aligning loyalty with revenue contribution should only further enhance the value of 1K status. In other words, I envision United saying, "Yes, we're rewarding you for achieving 1K, big time, but you're also going to have to pay for it, big time".

They have did that. Its called Global Services. It isn't clear what the comppetitive advantage of doing it again would be.

KathyWdrf Oct 4, 2007 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by J-H (Post 8510852)
That's true if you want to restrict to UA. But if you didn't care about status, you would be open to flying on any carrier - which opens the possibilities tremendously.

I did a lot of MRs in my 20's and early 30's. At 33 and married with a two year old and three month old baby, it simply isn't fun or practical to do these cross country/continent runs.

And I discovered that the alternatives are not expensive. I paid for two Z fares to Japan ex-JFK for a little under $7k. If could have flown to Europe on paid business for about $1.5k a person - not that much more than what I spent (about 8k/year) to maintain 1K out of my pocket. When you do an intercontinental MR, it is not just the cost of the ticket you have to figure in to the cost. Time is expensive, and it got a lot more expensive for me in the last few years to take a couple of days off from work/family for MR purpose.

The crux of the issue is that I can't afford to not have a SWU clear on a JFK-SFO-Asia trip if I'm travelling with my wife and two young kids. We need confirmed seats in business, not upgrades. And we can afford the once or twice yearly overseas trip, plus a few domestics/Carribean/Florida runs in paid premium cabin. Note: Our tickets on CO's fare to the Costa Rica were only $900/person, about 3x economy tickets, this really is not that expensive. Alternative would have been sitting in the back with a 1 year old on a five hour flight - who wants to deal with that?

Sure, what you're talking about makes sense for your particular situation! ;)

That's really the issue -- what works for me doesn't necessarily work for you, and vice versa. @:-)

Also, I avoid doing "pure" MRs -- I actually turn them into mini-vacations, often to NYC, Boston, and other interesting spots (and hey, even Buffalo, NY has things worth seeing -- I'd gladly go back!).

jef7 Oct 4, 2007 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 8511166)
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They have did that. Its called Global Services. It isn't clear what the comppetitive advantage of doing it again would be.

Right.

But I am speculating more with regards to qualifications for Premier all the way up to 1K. Aligning revenue contribution to loyalty does not simply have to be how much spending one contributes per geographical area as the case for UGS members, but could also be adjusted based on limiting EQMs earnings on select fares, elimination of promotions such as the main topic of this thread, etc.

prestonh Oct 4, 2007 5:03 pm


Originally Posted by jef7 (Post 8511234)
Right.

But I am speculating more with regards to qualifications for Premier all the way up to 1K. Aligning revenue contribution to loyalty does not simply have to be how much spending one contributes per geographical area as the case for UGS members, but could also be adjusted based on limiting EQMs earnings on select fares, elimination of promotions such as the main topic of this thread, etc.

At the end of the day, I think UA is primarily interested in generating cash without much cost (which is what the DEQM promo was good at, as well as the recent 'pay $ for extra miles'). If UA was really interested in adding value to their elite flyers, they would add the 1K rooms back, better agent treatment/ratios, more priority security lanes, etc. I would love to have some of that back, but for now, they want to generate the cash for low cost. I don't see their financial position changing enough (although it has improved) to go back to adding value (which has considerable cost) beyond the ongoing cabin upgrades (which, as shown in a heap of debate, may actually dilute elite value).

fzwinter Oct 4, 2007 5:04 pm


Originally Posted by Javan69 (Post 8511057)
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I'm booked to approx 98,200 through end of year. No way to take additional flights as I have the gf until 12/15 and after that, flights are $$$. So I may be redeeming. Ehhh.

Pretty steep for 20K RDMs, but still worth it to get 1K without shelling out any more $$ or flying time. Maybe in your upcoming flights you can manage thru irr. ops. a rerouting or two into the Y class bucket and get those extra EQMs w/o redeeming choices - good luck!

mahasamatman Oct 4, 2007 5:10 pm


Originally Posted by fzwinter (Post 8511270)
Maybe in your upcoming flights you can manage thru irr. ops. a rerouting or two into the Y class bucket and get those extra EQMs

It's never worth pinning your hopes on irregular ops.

prestonh Oct 4, 2007 5:18 pm


Originally Posted by fzwinter (Post 8511270)
Pretty steep for 20K RDMs, but still worth it to get 1K without shelling out any more $$ or flying time. Maybe in your upcoming flights you can manage thru irr. ops. a rerouting or two into the Y class bucket and get those extra EQMs w/o redeeming choices - good luck!

Or shell out the cash for a FAPCDZYB class and get the 50% EQM bonus without having to fly it.

vt2k Oct 4, 2007 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by thegingerman (Post 8505347)
I'm curious what you mean here. Are you saying that US Airways will upgrade Star Golds for free on a space-available basis? Didn't know that.

If that's not what you mean, could you please elaborate?

That is exactly what I mean. Here's one of the threads on the subject. I've gotten two free u/g's in the past year while flying on US for being *G and them having seats available. I've also been seated only in exit rows while flying on US, whether I prebooked those seats or selected them at check-in time.

To me, *G is a big benefit of 1P status. Row 16 on the 752s are nice =)

fzwinter Oct 4, 2007 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 8511297)
It's never worth pinning your hopes on irregular ops.

Agreed - I wouldn't count on it, but a little awareness on the part of the traveler can provide that extra incentive for a GA to move you into the Y bucket on occasion.

lucky9876coins Oct 4, 2007 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by vt2k (Post 8511370)
That is exactly what I mean. If you do a search on this forum you can probably find posts from me about this topic. I've gotten two free u/g's in the past year while flying on US for being *G and them having seats available. I've also been seated only in exit rows while flying on US, whether I prebooked those seats or selected them at check-in time.

This is definitely not an official policy and you have been lucky. I have been on flights with empty F seats on US and did not get a free upgrade.

EsquireFlyer Oct 4, 2007 5:39 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 8511396)
This is definitely not an official policy and you have been lucky. I have been on flights with empty F seats on US and did not get a free upgrade.

Same here.

vt2k Oct 4, 2007 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 8511396)
This is definitely not an official policy and you have been lucky. I have been on flights with empty F seats on US and did not get a free upgrade.

They may have also been doing it because the flights were all pretty full and instead of IDB people, they went down the pecking order for free UGs.

But yes, I agree, I've been lucky in the past when flying on US in this regard. Just glad all my miles this year have been on UA metal only!

Oh, the US F product is pretty pathetic and the seats are uncomfortable, so getting the UG isn't always something to look forward to!

Javan69 Oct 4, 2007 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by cepheid (Post 8511123)
I'm sure the GF would appreciate a quick trip to HI... great fares in November! :D Just go for a long weekend...

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Given that in 2 months she's flying SOF-MUC-LHR-ORD-SFO, and SFO-DEN-ATL-DEN-SFO, and SFO-FRA-SOF, and doesn't really like flying, and I'm doing SFO-IAD-MUC-LHR-ORD-SFO, SFO-DEN-ATL-DEN-SFO, and SFO-FRA-ORD-IAD-SFO. No, she wouldn't appreciate another flight. :p

bobo809 Oct 5, 2007 12:08 pm

It's now Oct 5. Looks like UA is not going to run the double EQM promo in Oct.


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