This passenger gives GS members a bad name [Merged Threads] (Updated 2010)
Feb 28, 2010, 4:02 pm
#137
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The behavior of F passenger on DCA-DEN was clearly wrong and not indicative all of GS members. Making comments such as " I paid $XXXX, and I deserve XXXX" is clearly not appropriate.
However, I am confused why people have to drag "who is flying on whose dimes" into the the discussion. It is irrelevant, IMHO. I think we are losing focus here.
However, I am confused why people have to drag "who is flying on whose dimes" into the the discussion. It is irrelevant, IMHO. I think we are losing focus here.
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Feb 28, 2010, 5:07 pm
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Feb 28, 2010, 5:26 pm
#140
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I don't defend this DB's conduct, but I share in his anger that FAs often do not sort orders by status. A GS should always get her first choice.
Feb 28, 2010, 5:40 pm
#141
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The behavior of F passenger on DCA-DEN was clearly wrong and not indicative all of GS members. Making comments such as " I paid $XXXX, and I deserve XXXX" is clearly not appropriate.
However, I am confused why people have to drag "who is flying on whose dimes" into the the discussion. It is irrelevant, IMHO. I think we are losing focus here.
However, I am confused why people have to drag "who is flying on whose dimes" into the the discussion. It is irrelevant, IMHO. I think we are losing focus here.
Feb 28, 2010, 6:14 pm
#142
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Also, 2p is a fairly easily "hittable" target with personal travel, that I bet more 2p's are personal travel than 1k's and GS's.
Feb 28, 2010, 6:21 pm
#143
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Totally agree. And subsequent discussions of this could result in the thread being closed.
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Feb 28, 2010, 6:44 pm
#144
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Hi,
Thought I would share with you as it was way too funny.
Can anyone top it?
Flying from DCA to Denver so maybe Global Service member
as a politician type which would explain a lot.
I get upgraded to 1C (yeah!) he gets 1D which on a 752
is arguably the worst seat because 1C and 1D get less
legroom than E+ but in 1D you can't stretch your legs into
the aisle. So he's not happy to say the least.
Then they start serving meals from the rear of the cabin (about
10 First class seats). They serve us last and we have no meal choice.
The guy just blows up.
Says they should have started serving
him first since he is a GS and he should be sitting in 2D not 1D.
Which he may have a point to. But then it got really funny, since
he's walking up and down the aisle telling everyone in FC that they
are only there because he pays for his tickets and doesn't use
upgrade coupons. He then tries to take someone else's tray of
food because it wouldn't be there if he didn't pay and it goes on
and on. The entire rant basis was that FC is only here because GS members
pay for it to be here and the "leeches" (his words) upgrade on their backs.
Can anyone top that?
Thought I would share with you as it was way too funny.
Can anyone top it?
Flying from DCA to Denver so maybe Global Service member
as a politician type which would explain a lot.
I get upgraded to 1C (yeah!) he gets 1D which on a 752
is arguably the worst seat because 1C and 1D get less
legroom than E+ but in 1D you can't stretch your legs into
the aisle. So he's not happy to say the least.
Then they start serving meals from the rear of the cabin (about
10 First class seats). They serve us last and we have no meal choice.
The guy just blows up.
Says they should have started serving
him first since he is a GS and he should be sitting in 2D not 1D.
Which he may have a point to. But then it got really funny, since
he's walking up and down the aisle telling everyone in FC that they
are only there because he pays for his tickets and doesn't use
upgrade coupons. He then tries to take someone else's tray of
food because it wouldn't be there if he didn't pay and it goes on
and on. The entire rant basis was that FC is only here because GS members
pay for it to be here and the "leeches" (his words) upgrade on their backs.
Can anyone top that?
The behavior of F passenger on DCA-DEN was clearly wrong and not indicative all of GS members. Making comments such as " I paid $XXXX, and I deserve XXXX" is clearly not appropriate.
However, I am confused why people have to drag "who is flying on whose dimes" into the the discussion. It is irrelevant, IMHO. I think we are losing focus here.
However, I am confused why people have to drag "who is flying on whose dimes" into the the discussion. It is irrelevant, IMHO. I think we are losing focus here.
How is it irrelevant when the GS here is saying he was paying for everyone else's service
?We are giving one's opinion on what the GS said during that flight. IMHO, arguing that the GS has DYKWIA mentality and who paid for it is very relevant, the GS opened the door on that one, maybe i'm wrong.
If I was in that cabin, I would have said something along the lines of .... "How much did you pay for your ticket? $2,000. Oh...that's nice. I paid $200, which means you paid $1,800 too much and I GOT MY CHOICE OF MEALS and MY CHOICE OF SEATS
." Agreed, but it is relevant when the GS decided to give a speech on how much he paid for it. If he didn't try to "talk down" on other passengers, whoever paying for F/C would have been an irrelevant point, IMHO.
Feb 28, 2010, 11:01 pm
#145
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I don't see this at all: this dumb man just hasen't done his homework and did not realize where he'd end up - maybe her was even a last minute upgrader who then had to live with what's left.
Whereas the beast that booted me from my long allocated seat knew exactly what he wanted
.
Mar 1, 2010, 12:34 am
#146
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Depends.
Agree-- never acceptable. My reply above was simply to ralphwiggum's specific post.
My reply was to your specific post-- the point of that post was not the above. No one shoud act like that no matter what kind of ticket one was flying on. It would be nice if you cleared up what aircraft you were traveling that hat 10 F seats, though . . .
He may be right that he pays for everyone elses upgrades, but that doesn't give him the right to rant and disturb the whole cabin. If he complains, he'll probably get like a CS$250 anyway.
No comment.
I was sitting in F with this guy.
Folks have every right to complain, but why qualify the loud rants that everyone in F cabin can hear with, "I paid $x..."? Wouldn't it be enough to say what's wrong without having to inflate one's chest and let everyone know how important he/she is? That's the bunk point.
Folks have every right to complain, but why qualify the loud rants that everyone in F cabin can hear with, "I paid $x..."? Wouldn't it be enough to say what's wrong without having to inflate one's chest and let everyone know how important he/she is? That's the bunk point.
He may be right that he pays for everyone elses upgrades, but that doesn't give him the right to rant and disturb the whole cabin. If he complains, he'll probably get like a CS$250 anyway.
No comment.
Mar 1, 2010, 3:36 am
#147
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For the last year I've been going through DEN/ORD instead, and on any given Monday morning see a regular contingent (of I assume WAS staffers) flying the same direction, most in F.
Mar 1, 2010, 5:45 am
#148
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This guy has a valid argument, he just chose the wrong way to express it.
I have deliberately avoided UA for last-minute flights because I know (from the seatmap) that the only seats remaining are lousy. Middle-seat in Y on a 16 hour MEL-LAX? No way.
Last minute travelers usually have no choice BUT to travel and are happy to pay big $$$. UA needs to block X number of seats for either high-yield paid fares or assignment at the airport.
I have deliberately avoided UA for last-minute flights because I know (from the seatmap) that the only seats remaining are lousy. Middle-seat in Y on a 16 hour MEL-LAX? No way.
Last minute travelers usually have no choice BUT to travel and are happy to pay big $$$. UA needs to block X number of seats for either high-yield paid fares or assignment at the airport.
Mar 1, 2010, 5:58 am
#149
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I used to fly the SMF-IAD nonstop on a regular basis, and F was frequently filled with US Congressman.
For the last year I've been going through DEN/ORD instead, and on any given Monday morning see a regular contingent (of I assume WAS staffers) flying the same direction, most in F.
For the last year I've been going through DEN/ORD instead, and on any given Monday morning see a regular contingent (of I assume WAS staffers) flying the same direction, most in F.
The person we are talking about is a paid F, therefore I doubt he is a politician. If he is, then it is unlikely the taxpayers/government paid for his ticket.
Mar 1, 2010, 8:34 am
#150
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I don't see this at all: this dumb man just hasen't done his homework and did not realize where he'd end up - maybe her was even a last minute upgrader who then had to live with what's left.
Whereas the beast that booted me from my long allocated seat knew exactly what he wanted
.