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United Pilot Q & A {Archive}
Aug 23, 2018, 9:04 am
#6676
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: KEWR
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Flew into Laramie, Wyoming recently. It appears there is no control tower there, which isn't terribly surprising since there's only one or two UA flights a day there.
What do pilots on UAX or UA do when flying into an airport with no tower? Are they always with the center the airport is in from takeoff to landing? For example, for DEN-LAR would Denver Center control them the entire way, including giving them clearance to land? Or is there some general frequency for the airport that the pilots will just announce their intentions to other aircraft in the immediate area? Thanks.
What do pilots on UAX or UA do when flying into an airport with no tower? Are they always with the center the airport is in from takeoff to landing? For example, for DEN-LAR would Denver Center control them the entire way, including giving them clearance to land? Or is there some general frequency for the airport that the pilots will just announce their intentions to other aircraft in the immediate area? Thanks.
We can do it on the air as well but once safely on the ground we’ll call a predetermined ATC center frequency to let them know we safely landed. That will close out our flight plan and avoid calling out the search and rescue team on us.
When departing we do the opposite. We’ll call the controlling ATC center and tell them we’re almost ready for departure. They will issue a “hold for release” clearance which allows us to depart an airport without any ATC assistance on the ground. Once airborne they can get us on radar and everything continues normally from there.
Aug 23, 2018, 9:08 am
#6677
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: In between IAD and DCA
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Posts: 2,262
Thanks for the great explanation!
Aug 23, 2018, 9:09 am
#6678
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: DAY/CMH
Programs: UA MileagePlus
Posts: 2,474
What do pilots on UAX or UA do when flying into an airport with no tower? Are they always with the center the airport is in from takeoff to landing? For example, for DEN-LAR would Denver Center control them the entire way, including giving them clearance to land? Or is there some general frequency for the airport that the pilots will just announce their intentions to other aircraft in the immediate area? Thanks.
At uncontrolled airports there is a Unicom frequency where you announce position reports so other aircraft know where you are in the pattern.
We can do it on the air as well but once safely on the ground we’ll call a predetermined ATC center frequency to let them know we safely landed. That will close out our flight plan and avoid calling out the search and rescue team on us.
We can do it on the air as well but once safely on the ground we’ll call a predetermined ATC center frequency to let them know we safely landed. That will close out our flight plan and avoid calling out the search and rescue team on us.
Aug 23, 2018, 12:29 pm
#6679
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
Programs: HH Gold. (Former) UA PP, DL PM, PC Plat
Posts: 8,185
This is an FAA Advisory Circular which describes operations at non-towered airports.
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...mentID/1032988
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...mentID/1032988
Oct 19, 2018, 7:31 pm
#6680
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Reverse Thrust
Can different power settings be used for reverse thrust when landing? I ask because on my last flight into FRA on a 777, I didn’t detect any reverse thrust being used which was a first for me.
Oct 19, 2018, 9:18 pm
#6681
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: KEWR
Programs: Marriott Platinum
Posts: 794
On longer runways or those which have noise restrictions on max reverse thrust we limit the amount applied on landing. FRA has long runways, assuming a touchdown in the normal range and no adverse weather conditions, little to no reverse thrust is really needed upon landing.
Oct 20, 2018, 11:12 pm
#6682
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: FL 290 through FL390
Posts: 1,687
Can I give a big thank you to United Pilots? Earlier this year my wife took my two grandsons with her and flew from Denver to Orlando and met me there. When the pilots found that it was the two boys' (9 and 5 years old) first flight, they invited them into the cockpit and allowed them to take pictures wearing the captain's hat. This extra attention meant the world to them, and they told me later that the flight was the best part of their vacation.
Is this pretty standard practice for pilots in this situation? I was impressed, and the boys will have a lasting memory of that time.
Is this pretty standard practice for pilots in this situation? I was impressed, and the boys will have a lasting memory of that time.
FAB
Oct 23, 2018, 7:20 am
#6683
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, IHG Silver, Hilton Silver, Hertz PC, National Exec Elite, Avis PC
Posts: 1,297
Just wanted to say thanks to the pilots on this board and at UA in general for being so gracious to young flyers. From cockpit invitations to a really nice pilot who recently came up to my kids on the IAD people mover and gave them some wings, it has made them really look forward to flying, which is the highlight of some of their trips.
Oct 25, 2018, 10:26 am
#6684
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There was a couple of good posts about compressor stalls in another thread and it was mentioned that a stall could occur when starting an engine in a tailwind. Is there a limitation as to the amount of tailwind that an engine can be started in? Or do the start procedures account for that?
Oct 25, 2018, 10:46 am
#6685
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
Programs: HH Gold. (Former) UA PP, DL PM, PC Plat
Posts: 8,185
There was a couple of good posts about compressor stalls in another thread and it was mentioned that a stall could occur when starting an engine in a tailwind. Is there a limitation as to the amount of tailwind that an engine can be started in? Or do the start procedures account for that?
This is a Boeing video for pilots on compressor stalls:
We used to get compressor stalls on the older engines (DC8/DC9/727) with high levels of reverse thrust after landing due to the reverse thrust disrupting the airflow into the intake. On some DC8s you'd use only idle-reverse on the outboard engines to prevent stalls.
Oct 25, 2018, 11:09 am
#6686
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How about hot starts? I was watching an old training video and one of the scenarios was identifying and dealing with a hot start. Is that an issue with modern systems?
Oct 25, 2018, 2:00 pm
#6687
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Location: BNA
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Nov 13, 2018, 12:13 am
#6688
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bo...say-2018-11-12
"Stall-prevention system might have played role in deadly Indonesian crash"
What is UAs pilots take?
"Stall-prevention system might have played role in deadly Indonesian crash"
What is UAs pilots take?
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Nov 13, 2018, 8:06 am
#6689
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: KEWR
Programs: Marriott Platinum
Posts: 794
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bo...say-2018-11-12
"Stall-prevention system might have played role in deadly Indonesian crash"
What is UAs pilots take?
"Stall-prevention system might have played role in deadly Indonesian crash"
What is UAs pilots take?
Nov 14, 2018, 8:38 am
#6690
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Any UA pilots here fly planes outside of work for fun?