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Checkin on UA ticket but first flight not UA operated? Who/Where/BPs/Bags? {Archive}
#181
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Hawaiian air checkin
Flew wHNL-ITO-LAX with first leg on Hawaiian. Called Hawaiian pre flight to get seat assignments and they attached Hawaiian FF number to make check in easier and to have pltrusted traveler number attached for precheck.
At check in with Hawaiian only the first leg BP printed (expected). TA at HNL printed ITO-LAX BP. Saw the HA FF number on the BP so asked at United Club, over chat with Hawaiian, and over phone with United to see if I would get credited with UA PQM for the United leg. All tried to change the FF number back to UA but couldn’t. UA phone agent said just call after flights and ask for retroactive credit.
Called several days after flights and was told my Hawaiian account was credited so cannot get UA credit. But it wasn’t. Any suggestions or am I SOL? This went as expected the last time I had a Hawaiian initial segment last November.
At check in with Hawaiian only the first leg BP printed (expected). TA at HNL printed ITO-LAX BP. Saw the HA FF number on the BP so asked at United Club, over chat with Hawaiian, and over phone with United to see if I would get credited with UA PQM for the United leg. All tried to change the FF number back to UA but couldn’t. UA phone agent said just call after flights and ask for retroactive credit.
Called several days after flights and was told my Hawaiian account was credited so cannot get UA credit. But it wasn’t. Any suggestions or am I SOL? This went as expected the last time I had a Hawaiian initial segment last November.
#184
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OK, I agree; that doesn’t sound like a light fare, then. It sounds like a glitch on the UA receipt. You should get LH’s normal allowance for flights to the US (1 bag) plus one extra bag for *G.
#185
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I canceled that flight and rebooked in V. (Slight itinerary change - so it turns out to be an interesting experiment, even if unintended) Same PNR. It still shows $100 for two bags, and the receipt (but not the reservation) shows W as the basis.
#186
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Can’t check in online if itinerary involves LH?
United booking on UA flight number out of LHR tomo connecting in FRA-SFO with LH flying the LHR-FRA and return sectors. I can’t check in for the UA flown sectors either? I can understand the LH flight but puzzled as to why I can’t get a BP for the United B777 out of FRA.
Is this normal or a prelude to SSSS?
Is this normal or a prelude to SSSS?
#187
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United booking on UA flight number out of LHR tomo connecting in FRA-SFO with LH flying the LHR-FRA and return sectors. I can’t check in for the UA flown sectors either? I can understand the LH flight but puzzled as to why I can’t get a BP for the United B777 out of FRA.
Is this normal or a prelude to SSSS?
Is this normal or a prelude to SSSS?
#188
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United booking on UA flight number out of LHR tomo connecting in FRA-SFO with LH flying the LHR-FRA and return sectors. I can’t check in for the UA flown sectors either? I can understand the LH flight but puzzled as to why I can’t get a BP for the United B777 out of FRA.
Is this normal or a prelude to SSSS?
Is this normal or a prelude to SSSS?
I don't know if you have status to allow you in the LHR lounge, but if all else fails the agents there should be able to help.
#189
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Is it possible that you're not within 24 hours to check in for the UA FRA-SFO leg? In theory it shouldn't matter for a connection, but you're dealing with LH and UA systems, and they don't always play nice together. I often have trouble with LH checkin when multiple airlines are involved, sometimes for obscure reasons. Sometimes a call will fix it. I had trouble with MUC-WAW (LH) and then WAW-ORD (LO) and I called LH and they said something about something being out of sync and they were able to fix it, allowing me to check in.
I don't know if you have status to allow you in the LHR lounge, but if all else fails the agents there should be able to help.
I don't know if you have status to allow you in the LHR lounge, but if all else fails the agents there should be able to help.
"Check-in is not currently offered for flights that are operated by another carrier. Please proceed to the airport to check-in."
HOWEVER if I use the UNITED desktop site and look at my UNITED booking, I then get a Lufthansa Confirmation Number which (handily) I plug into my Lufthansa app and after adding API details I end up with two Lufthansa BP's LH925 and UA059, even though I booked on united.com. It's never easy
Thanks all !
#190
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HOWEVER if I use the UNITED desktop site and look at my UNITED booking, I then get a Lufthansa Confirmation Number which (handily) I plug into my Lufthansa app and after adding API details I end up with two Lufthansa BP's LH925 and UA059, even though I booked on united.com. It's never easy
Thanks all !
#191
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Yup it's under 24 hours for the UA leg and the app is telling me :
"Check-in is not currently offered for flights that are operated by another carrier. Please proceed to the airport to check-in."
HOWEVER if I use the UNITED desktop site and look at my UNITED booking, I then get a Lufthansa Confirmation Number which (handily) I plug into my Lufthansa app and after adding API details I end up with two Lufthansa BP's LH925 and UA059, even though I booked on united.com. It's never easy
Thanks all !
"Check-in is not currently offered for flights that are operated by another carrier. Please proceed to the airport to check-in."
HOWEVER if I use the UNITED desktop site and look at my UNITED booking, I then get a Lufthansa Confirmation Number which (handily) I plug into my Lufthansa app and after adding API details I end up with two Lufthansa BP's LH925 and UA059, even though I booked on united.com. It's never easy
Thanks all !
You always check in with the operating carrier of the first flight that day. So LH connecting to UA, and you need to check in with LH - or their website/app. Getting BPs for both the partner and UA segments is expected behavior (it doesn’t always work with partners, but especially within star that happens most of the time. You can only go to UA after you have been loaded by the system onto your last partner flight.
Also, app does have the partner PNR number available. Down near the bottom of the reservation, there are a couple of buttons you can click. You should see one that says (IIRC) additional information when you have a partner on the reservation, below the seat selection one, and that will display your LH confirmation.
UA.com and the app, if you have a partner segment first, will give you a message saying you need to check in with the partner carrier, and should give you a link. IIRC, pre-merger UA used to allow you to check in for the UA segments only using OLCI at T-24 before the first UA segment , even when a partner had the first segment. However, that’s long gone and I’d guess probably confused the internal systems. Post-merger, the only way is to use th partner carrier check in. I imagine that can cause some issues (I.e, splitting to get on the CPU list for a onward UA segment, selecting an E+ seat for silvers at check in), but probably much fewer issues than the other way around.
#192
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Think of it this way - where would you go if you were not checking in online, but at the airport? A United counter for a Lufthansa flight? Same thing online or at an airport - you always go to the counter (or website) of the operating carrier for your first flight on an itinerary. It doesn't matter one iota where (or from whom) you bought the ticket.
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#193
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Last time I connected in Frankfurt from an LH flight to UA, I had to report to a designated gate BEFORE going to the departure gate for a security check/immigration qustions. They reussue your boarding pass once cleared as proof that you have been through their security screening. Not sure if the procedure is still in place but just allow yourself some time, just in case.
#194
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Flying on a United Award economy ticket (016) with the first flight on Air Canada (class YN). There are two of us on the same PNR. I'm 1K but my companion has no status. How many bags may we check for free in total? The United email says 1 bag per traveler with the second costing $100, the UA website says 2 bags, and the AC site says 1 bag for *G with the second costing $50. I'm flying DCA-YOW. I know I can check in at least 1 bag for free, but would we be able to check in 2 bags for free together?
#195
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Flying on a United Award economy ticket (016) with the first flight on Air Canada (class YN). There are two of us on the same PNR. I'm 1K but my companion has no status. How many bags may we check for free in total? The United email says 1 bag per traveler with the second costing $100, the UA website says 2 bags, and the AC site says 1 bag for *G with the second costing $50. I'm flying DCA-YOW. I know I can check in at least 1 bag for free, but would we be able to check in 2 bags for free together?