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-   -   Consolidated UA PlusPoints Question & Answer Thread {Archive} (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/2146153-consolidated-ua-pluspoints-question-answer-thread-archive.html)

Kacee Sep 24, 2019 2:56 pm
Originally Posted by Halo117 (Post 31559560)
My interpretation due to this omission is that no points will be refunded if you voluntarily cancel/change a cleared upgrade.
That is my read as well. Requests can be cancelled, upgrades cannot. By definition, a skip waitlist request will be "confirmed" so there will never be a "request" to cancel; i.e., skip waitlist is always non-cancellable.

marquiss22 Sep 24, 2019 3:00 pm
Not sure if I missed this - can I still gift my GPU (or now Points) to family? How does this work?

I always upgrade my in-laws, hardly ever use GPU myself.

Live4Upgrade Sep 24, 2019 3:01 pm
I'd like to know what special *NEW* rules apply to GS members besides the normal clearing of upgrades into PN.

WineCountryUA Sep 24, 2019 3:03 pm
Originally Posted by marquiss22 (Post 31559605)
Not sure if I missed this - can I still gift my GPU (or now Points) to family? How does this work?

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Yes, no change. You will make the request from your account.

The skip the waitlist option (new) is only available if you are on the same PNR

Originally Posted by Live4Upgrade (Post 31559609)
I'd like to know what special *NEW* rules apply to GS members besides the normal clearing of upgrades into PN.
Not sure why to expect new GS rules but UA has never publicly stated any special GS rules, so would not expect that to change

leoo Sep 24, 2019 3:06 pm
I have an upgrade request (GPU) for a flight in May 2020 where the long haul segment is confirmed on Premium Plus and waitlisted for Polaris.

Assuming the Polaris upgrade doesn't clear by December, would the best action be to cancel the GPU and apply PlusPoints after the GPUs are converted to the new system?

This way I'd use only 20 PlusPoints instead of 40 if the Polaris upgrade never clears.

randyqx Sep 24, 2019 3:14 pm
there go regionals and systemwides
 
seen the wonderful new "Plus Points" so called benefits? sigh.

cfischer Sep 24, 2019 3:17 pm
So how is upgrading on LH and NH going to work now with this new system? In particular when waitlisting on LH?

dkc715 Sep 24, 2019 3:18 pm
Originally Posted by Halo117 (Post 31559560)
This post was not clear at all...in the first part UAinsider says a same day change would drop the "request" and refund points. I thought points aren't pulled until you are confirmed?

What is being said is that if a request is made (not cleared) and you make a change, the system drops the request or a request can be pulled with a call in.

So everyone on this forum is clear...the above post was very particular on langauage of "request" and avoided "cleared". What is still not clear is if a cleared upgrade will be refunded if you voluntarily cancel/change a non skip wait confirmed ugrade? My interpretation due to this omission is that no points will be refunded if you voluntarily cancel/change a cleared upgrade.
I believe your interpretation is wrong. If you read my entire post that UA Insider was responding to I think it is completely clear. I asked about normal (not skip) upgrades that have cleared and the refundability of those points. While you can't cancel a confirmed upgrade, if you SDC into coach on another flight, or cancel your trip, the points ARE refunded. Since non skip upgrade points are only pulled on the confirmed upgrade, we weren't discussing waitlisted upgrades. We have our answer. Same as GPUs/RPUs today.

To summarize: UA Insider said "That's correct" in response to my writing: Although I could eat humble pie, 99% certain you get the points back for non-skip confirmed upgrades where you SDC or cancel.

Maybe the mod can put something in the wiki to clarify. You can SDC or cancel reservation with a normal confirmed upgrade and get the points back, but you can't downgrade to a lower class of service on the same flight. Skip upgrades nonrefundable unless IRROPS, etc.

hookthem Sep 24, 2019 3:20 pm
Originally Posted by randyqx (Post 31559664)
seen the wonderful new "Plus Points" so called benefits? sigh.
It seems to me like it is pretty much the same system, except you can burn 2 GPU equivalents for economy -> business when you purchase a fare that isn't W or higher. You do lose the "refunding the entire GPU" if you have domestic segments that clear, but the international segment doesn't. You used to be able to apply a GPU, get the domestic upgrades, and then refund it completely if the international segment doesn't clear.

TomMM Sep 24, 2019 3:22 pm
Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 31559679)
So how is upgrading on LH and NH going to work now with this new system? In particular when waitlisting on LH?
More importantly will there be a skip the waitlist option!

jsloan Sep 24, 2019 3:24 pm
Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 31559679)
So how is upgrading on LH and NH going to work now with this new system? In particular when waitlisting on LH?
No change except (likely) when the points are pulled from your account.

Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 31559700)
More importantly will there be a skip the waitlist option!
Since UA would presumably have to buy the inventory from LH or NH, file this under "no way."

100% Green Sep 24, 2019 3:27 pm
So the RPU's/GPU's for 2019 will convert into the new points system on 12/4 or will they convert sooner and be able to be applied towards reservations dates after 12/4? Asking because I am considering becoming some cheap international K/L fares around Christmas.

Boraxo Sep 24, 2019 3:30 pm
The “skip the waitlist” program Sounds like a big win for 1Ks at hubs. Normally we get shut out by GS as our RPUs never clear. Now we can just pay more (hopefully at time of ticket purchase). Also can convert old GPUs (worthless to me) to RPUs which may be more useful for those who don’t want to roll the dice on sitting in E+ for TATL or TPAC flights.

Will be interesting to see how this is managed as I would imagine that all those GS at hubs will not be happy if their CPUs are stolen by 1Ks using points.

Kacee Sep 24, 2019 3:34 pm
Originally Posted by leoo (Post 31559637)
Assuming the Polaris upgrade doesn't clear by December, would the best action be to cancel the GPU and apply PlusPoints after the GPUs are converted to the new system?
It's supposed to convert automatically. You don't have to do anything.
Remember: If you don’t receive your highest-priced PlusPoints upgrade, we’ll credit back the difference of PlusPoints after you arrive at your destination — even if you placed your request with a Global Premier Upgrade or Regional Premier Upgrade before we converted to PlusPoints.

leoo Sep 24, 2019 3:39 pm
Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 31559759)
It's supposed to convert automatically. You don't have to do anything.
That's great! I missed that note, thanks!


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