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That is correct. 20 and 40, respectively.
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Originally Posted by CO_Nonrev_elite
(Post 31557834)
The devil is in the details on this one. How many points does it cost to skip the waitlist. My guess is that it will be a staggering amount of points. It’s more or less the only thing they didn’t give a price for, and my guess is that is to avoid the backlash. As you cannot skip the waitlist now (with points), it is an improvement, but as buyups are generally cheap, my guess is that the amount of points needed to skip the waitlist will be high. So, if 40 points gets you an available now polaris upgrade, I am going to say it’s well over 100 for the skip the waitlist option.
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It kind of makes it clear with the Pluspoints that upgrades will go to dynamic pricing sooner or later. It also creates separate UA-ecosystem of points, out of the hands of Mileageplus credit cards and *A awards. Hypothetically speaking, will this Pluspoints lead to the use for UA-metal award redemptions and other ancillary purchases?
I'm a bit relieved that they will still only charge the highest upgrade points for a multi-city itinerary, I was afraid that my EWR-LAX-SYD bookings will cost me 60 points (20+40). But then I also wonder, how will they price the upgrades for the transcon flights EWR-SFO/LAX. |
Originally Posted by hirohito888
(Post 31557870)
It kind of makes it clear with the Pluspoints that upgrades will go to dynamic pricing sooner or later. It also creates separate UA-ecosystem of points, out of the hands of Mileageplus credit cards and *A awards. Hypothetically speaking, will this Pluspoints lead to the use for UA-metal award redemptions and other ancillary purchases?
I'm a bit relieved that they will still only charge the highest upgrade points for a multi-city itinerary, I was afraid that my EWR-LAX-SYD bookings will cost me 60 points (20+40). But then I also wonder, how will they price the upgrades for the transcon flights EWR-SFO/LAX. |
Will also be interesting to see how they now devalue “Ultimate Reward” points from Chase. I know that this card is a source of pain for United. This way they can seriously increase the points required for Chase ultimate reward point redemptions and favor their own pass plus points. They will do this to motivate people to swap to a United card, and then slowly but surely then devalue that card.
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As a Plat who would never reach 1K not because of miles flown but PQD's. I'm all in on this.
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I'm still finding this very confusing.
If PZ quantity stays the same and now Plat can upgrade, that would mean less space for 1K/GS? Overall, I find RPU's worthless in general. I can only use it on shorter flights. Very hard to upgrade on longer flights. So if I'm "giving up" a RPU to improve my odds at a GPU clearing (skipwait or possibly saving money on discount Y), I guess overall that is good. |
When is dynamically priced upgrades coming? Offering customers “more flexibility”.
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Originally Posted by aacharya
(Post 31557818)
I think the lack of G fares noted is pretty simple - they don't sell G fares internationally, only domestically. One might see a G fare for domestic feeding routes, but in theory, one does not upgrade to Premium Plus or Polaris from a G fare, ever.
However, it would make sense to retire G across the board as it's a non-harmonized fare class. |
Originally Posted by CO_Nonrev_elite
(Post 31557883)
Will also be interesting to see how they now devalue “Ultimate Reward” points from Chase. I know that this card is a source of pain for United. This way they can seriously increase the points required for Chase ultimate reward point redemptions and favor their own pass plus points. They will do this to motivate people to swap to a United card, and then slowly but surely then devalue that card.
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I am in the camp of liking this change. I do use my GPUs. My RPUs are a bit hit and miss (currently recycling two).
I am not overly concerned about the connecting upgrade to the long haul flight and will probably just use the PP for the international leg as most of my connections are to SFO or LAX out of SAN. If longer domestic connection then have no issue with losing the points if the international leg does not upgrade. I am actually curious for how this works in the transition period, i.e. 1Ks who have applied GPUs to next year already. I am not in that camp as my 1K status will not hit until December, although still waiting for my last GPU (#9) to take for the year on a scheduled flight in December so interested if that gets extended or converted. ❓❓❓I will be at PQM of 155,000 in December. How many PPs will I receive?❓❓❓ (Side note: could have used different name as we now have Premium Plus and Plus Points so both are PP which is also like talking to a two year old when you say PP out loud 😱🤣). |
I'm warming to the flexibility of this. I do like being able to get into international PP "cheaply".
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e1653cb505.png Long-haul Chart |
Originally Posted by findark
(Post 31557911)
This is not true. Australia markets (SYD, MEL, etc) have G fares published.
However, it would make sense to retire G across the board as it's a non-harmonized fare class. Perhaps G will go away, or yes, this is a downgrade for those on the super-cheapest routes. |
Originally Posted by chavala
(Post 31557498)
“When Skip Waitlist is available, you’ll be able to........use additional PlusPoints to skip the waitlist and confirm your upgrade right then and there, even if upgrade inventory is closed.”
OK, this is great. |
United:
"From time to time, our 1K members will be able to use additional PlusPoints to receive a confirmed upgrade on select international long-haul flights." I think I got too excited about the "Skip Wait list". Is "time to time" like "once in a blue moon" ? |
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