Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 31559136)

I suspect there will be a rash of "skip the waitlist" requests for flights prior to January 31, 2020, as we all try to burn those points before they expire.

Originally Posted by JShLin (Post 31559196)

So... I think I understand how this program change works. NGL, as a soon to be first time plat, I think overall I like the changes. Some enhanced flexibility (and some reduced) and no more "free" domestic upgrades connecting to un-upgraded international; I can accept that. however, I too would second a 10 point option, especially given the value of 30pts.

That said, given that the domestic to International changes, how does that affect an MileagePlus mileage upgrade? Are those still "free", with miles being returned if the Polaris sector doesn't clear? Is that something that has been addressed?

Originally Posted by Baley (Post 31558682)

Under the current scheme I have the flexibility to search for upgradable W fares and apply a GPU on transpacific routes when PZ>0. Is this still the case with the PlusPoints system?
I'm not totally clear whether we can still search and select these upgradable fares and confirm an upgrade with a GPU (now PlusPoints) right away or whether you would have to use 'skip the waitlist' feature?
I liked the flexibility to search for W fares and apply a GPU in the past to Asia routes (say EWR-NRT Polaris) and call in and book and apply the upgrade. I never booked a ticket where the segment would be 'waitlisted' as the chances of clearing were not that great and like to visit the Polaris lounge before my flight with a confirmed Upgrade.

I apologize if this question has been answered already but i've read many pages in this thread and can't seem to find the answer.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by dkc715 (Post 31558693)

Right. I think this is a semantics issue and not a rule change. You can't currently "cancel" an upgrade on the same flight (though some agents have allowed a downgrade if the underlying economy fare code was still available). That won't change with points. But you have always been able to SDC or cancel the flight and get the upgrade back (I think of this as being very different than just cancelling the upgrade). Also, I just re-read the terms, and since they highlight the nonrefundable feature of Skip, my bet is normal upgrades with points will be treated as they are now. SDC or cancel and you get your points back. Clarification would be great.

Although I could eat humble pie, 99% certain you get the points back for non-skip confirmed upgrades where you SDC or cancel.

Originally Posted by Hipplewm (Post 31559231)

That has been covered several times and also in the FAQ. Points are only deducted when upgrades clear. So if the short haul domestic leg clears and the Int’l doesn’t then they deduct 20 points only

Originally Posted by Baley (Post 31558726)

Makes sense. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Yes, I guess that's the 'unknown' part. Will PZ space shrink with the 'skip waitlist feature'. For the most part i've been able to find reasonable fares and apply GPU's as I have flexibility. I hope this continues.

Originally Posted by jasonp622 (Post 31558816)

United Insider,

Will we have to call in to get our PP redeposited to our accounts after upgrade failures like we have for all of 2019?

Originally Posted by narvik (Post 31559216)

Lets see how much upgrade space UA will actually release and what our success-rate is going to be. Something tells me not particularly good.
December 4th to Jan 31st is going to be one big mess.

Originally Posted by Kmxu (Post 31559056)

United could consider a 10 point tier for short-haul domestic legs, such as those less than 1000 miles.
As I said in another thread before, I am happy that G class is eligible for upgrades.

Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 31559081)

Two questions without clearly obvious answers, or maybe I am overwhelmed with too much information:

1. I have 6 unused GPUs expiring next Jan 31. On Dec 4, these will be converted to Plus Points. Will those Plus Points also expire on Jan 31, 2020, or will they be good for all of next year if I requalify for 1K by Dec 31, PLUS the new batch of 1K PPs I will earn after requalifying?

2. 1K can earn additional PPs for every 20,000 additional miles - so if I requalify for 1K on Dec 31, and I am a 1K going into 2020, do I earn more points every 20,000 miles flown in 2020, or do I need to requalify for 2021 first, get the new batch of 1K PPs, and THEN earn more PPs for every additional 20,000 miles flown in 2020? As an example, I earn 2020 1K status on Dec 20th. On April 20th, I earn 2021 status. Where do my extra points per 20K miles start from?

Originally Posted by arisaa (Post 31559307)

Will we still have the ability to use our own PlusPoints to sponsor upgrades for friends and family?

Originally Posted by UA Insider (Post 31559267)

Great feedback and we’ll take that back. We’re happy about G class fares too.

Originally Posted by findark (Post 31559097)

Any GPU you currently have expiring 31-Jan-20 will become 40 PlusPoints each, all expiring on 31-Jan-20. Ditto for any instruments expiring 31-Jan-21 (they keep their expiry).

No word on extending 2 GPU (or 80 points) until 30-Apr-20.