Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > United Airlines | MileagePlus
Reload this Page >

New United Ad Campaign: “Good Leads The Way” & branding / website changes

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

New United Ad Campaign: “Good Leads The Way” & branding / website changes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 17, 2022, 8:52 am
  #61  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA, AA, DL, Hertz, Avis, National, Hyatt, Hilton, SPG, Marriott
Posts: 9,454
Originally Posted by DenverBrian
It's redonkulously easy when a company has a true purpose beyond appeasing 17 stock "analysts" every quarter on an earnings call.
If only!
EWR764 is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 9:26 am
  #62  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,130
Originally Posted by DELee
Nope - exactly what is said on their brand page: https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/com...s-the-way.html



Uh huh. Really. Important. Stuff.

David
Who told these people at UA that their customers want to choose an airline where the employees are out "to make the world a happier, greener, more inclusive, more facinating place"?
JNelson113 and rch4u like this.
JimInOhio is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 9:31 am
  #63  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Hilton Contributor BadgeMarriott Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: TOA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott LTPP/Platinum Premier, Hyatt Lame-ist, UA !K
Posts: 20,061
Originally Posted by JimInOhio
Who told these people at UA that their customers want to choose an airline where the employees are out "to make the world a happier, greener, more inclusive, more facinating place"?
The "creative agency of record".

David
DELee is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 10:01 am
  #64  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,361
Originally Posted by Artpen100
I get all that. But if you have to explain the meaning of your marketing slogan, you have failed. When people read "Good leads the way", the first thing that comes to mind is that they are fine being just adequate. This is an example of overthinking your communications, because all the explanation will not remove that simple and natural impression.
I think you’re overly focused on “good” and ignoring the word that immediately follows. The use of “lead” is pretty unambiguous: UAL wants to be first in the industry. Even if good means adequate, the slogan clearly states that UAL wants to lead by being the most adequate airline.

If you don’t overthink the advertising, the message is much simpler: UAL becomes a better company by focusing on being good to our employees, customers, the environment, etc. If you’ve talked to Oscar or spent anytime with UAL leadership, you would know this builds on their efforts to change the culture of the company, creating a shared purpose and improving customer service by first treating employees well.

Originally Posted by JimInOhio
Who told these people at UA that their customers want to choose an airline where the employees are out "to make the world a happier, greener, more inclusive, more facinating place"?
UAL believes engaged and motivated employees will provide better service to customers.
CalebMCO likes this.
fly18725 is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 10:33 am
  #65  
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: LAX
Programs: UA
Posts: 1,537
I've thought about this, and I actually think it's a reasonable advertising campaign. People here clearly have a skewed perspective with regards to what they want out of an airline, eg. food quality in business. United has been trying to cultivate a more premium image for itself recently, similar to what Delta has done in the past, and I think among the general population, the way to do this is not to focus on the product itself, but instead, to focus more intangible things. People (in my experience) perceive companies that care about ESG/DEI as better companies than those companies that do not. There might also be a generational factor at play; young people are more supportive of and care about things like DEI and ESG and unions.
angetenar is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 10:37 am
  #66  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,130
Originally Posted by fly18725
I think you’re overly focused on “good” and ignoring the word that immediately follows. The use of “lead” is pretty unambiguous: UAL wants to be first in the industry. Even if good means adequate, the slogan clearly states that UAL wants to lead by being the most adequate airline.

If you don’t overthink the advertising, the message is much simpler: UAL becomes a better company by focusing on being good to our employees, customers, the environment, etc. If you’ve talked to Oscar or spent anytime with UAL leadership, you would know this builds on their efforts to change the culture of the company, creating a shared purpose and improving customer service by first treating employees well.

UAL believes engaged and motivated employees will provide better service to customers.
But that (bolded) is an internal message, not a marketing campaign. Does anyone think someone will choose UA over, say, Spirit to get to Florida simply because UA is motivating their employees with a shared purpose better than Spirit is?
Artpen100 likes this.
JimInOhio is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 11:06 am
  #67  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,361
Originally Posted by JimInOhio
But that (bolded) is an internal message, not a marketing campaign. Does anyone think someone will choose UA over, say, Spirit to get to Florida simply because UA is motivating their employees with a shared purpose better than Spirit is?
I don’t think employee engagement is the purpose of the campaign, but a benefit. I would say that consistent messaging internally and out is usually a good idea.
fly18725 is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 11:14 am
  #68  
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: HPN, LAX, HNL, or somewhere in between
Programs: UA 1K, JetBlue Mosaic
Posts: 436
I got a pop up for this in the United iPhone app last night.
Just the image, couldn't interact with it or anything. Tapping the image did nothing and I could only press the "X" to close it. Would have been nice if there was an explanation or link to a campaign instead of just interrupting my use of the app.

More like "Good _blocks_ the way" of using the damn app.

JALsnipe is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 11:15 am
  #69  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,130
Originally Posted by fly18725
I don’t think employee engagement is the purpose of the campaign, but a benefit. I would say that consistent messaging internally and out is usually a good idea.
I totally agree with you about consistent messaging, internally and externally. Benefits, though, are derived from features and I can't see (maybe I'm blind?) what feature UA is clearly trying to put in front of their customer base to create that benefit.
JimInOhio is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 11:22 am
  #70  
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: United Global Services, Amtrak Select Executive
Posts: 4,098
Originally Posted by Artpen100
I get all that. But if you have to explain the meaning of your marketing slogan, you have failed. When people read "Good leads the way", the first thing that comes to mind is that they are fine being just adequate. This is an example of overthinking your communications, because all the explanation will not remove that simple and natural impression.
I don't see any evidence that UA has to explain this new slogan to the people it is aimed at nor that it has failed to convey the intended message. It is not dignostic that the first thing that comes to mind in a self-selected subgroup of people inclined to see everything UA does & says in a jaundiced light that this slogan indicates that UA is fine being just adequate. It is not at all clear whether this "first impression" read of the slogan will be common. Maybe it will turn out that this slogan is, indeed, widely misunderstood, and maybe it will turn out that it's a "dud". But that remains to be seen.
CalebMCO and CCS_847 like this.
physioprof is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 11:46 am
  #71  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton ♦ , Hyatt Carbonado, Wyndham ♦, Marriott PE, "Stinking Bum" elsewhere.
Posts: 5,001
Originally Posted by physioprof
I don't see any evidence that UA has to explain this new slogan to the people it is aimed at nor that it has failed to convey the intended message. It is not dignostic that the first thing that comes to mind in a self-selected subgroup of people inclined to see everything UA does & says in a jaundiced light that this slogan indicates that UA is fine being just adequate. It is not at all clear whether this "first impression" read of the slogan will be common. Maybe it will turn out that this slogan is, indeed, widely misunderstood, and maybe it will turn out that it's a "dud". But that remains to be seen.
I certainly understood what UA was going for, I just believe that it is wasted money. Air travel is virtually a commodity these days, since "loyalty" gets you so little, and service standards and quality have fallen so far. So I don't think that bragging about your virtuous ESG and DEI behavior and accomplishments is going to get UA any additional market share because most flyers shop by price.
Besides, if someone is really all-in on ESG behavior, they should quit air travel completely because it is literally the most carbon-intensive normal activity that one can engage in.
narvik and Starbase 1K like this.

Last edited by zombietooth; May 18, 2022 at 8:05 am
zombietooth is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 12:13 pm
  #72  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: USA
Programs: UA Platinum, 1MM
Posts: 13,460
That app screenshot (which I saw when I opened the app yesterday) with the very enthusiastic FA is a bit overly enthusiastic. It is like something I would expect on a Southwest flight where off-script moments are to be expected. I would think - is she going to try to hug me?
CApreppie is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 12:42 pm
  #73  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,361
Originally Posted by JimInOhio
I totally agree with you about consistent messaging, internally and externally. Benefits, though, are derived from features and I can't see (maybe I'm blind?) what feature UA is clearly trying to put in front of their customer base to create that benefit.
Have you looked at any campaign material? Customer features highlighted include IFE, elimination of change fees, ConnectionSaver, and
more destinations. Not to mention, engaged and motivated employees that should improve the customer experience.
fly18725 is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 3:15 pm
  #74  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
Too bad that doesn't mean "you get what you pay for" - just see the Polaris meal thread.
noralawrence is offline  
Old May 17, 2022, 3:52 pm
  #75  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,130
Originally Posted by fly18725
Have you looked at any campaign material? Customer features highlighted include IFE, elimination of change fees, ConnectionSaver, and
more destinations. Not to mention, engaged and motivated employees that should improve the customer experience.
I watched the video twice and don't believe there was any mention of change fees or destinations. I do remember the "force for good" which they must have lisfted from that NAVY promo of years ago.

The whole campaign is all about the message "please feel good about us" or something like that. I don't see how that advances their cause in the end.
JimInOhio is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.