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View Poll Results: What do you think of the recent UA changes in Changes fees?
Good idea: No Domestic Change fee w/ no rebooking residual AND No Standby fee/Free SDC all elites
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64.35%
Good idea: No Domestic Change fee w/ no rebooking residual but NOT No Standby fee/Free SDC all elite
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10.87%
Good idea: No Standby fee/Free SDC all elite but NOT No Domestic Change fee w/ no rebooking residual
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Neutral /don’t care about either
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 2:32 pm
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Latest Update: 23 December 2021:

"Change fees are gone" (change fee waiver): https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/notices.html#changefeesaregone
We've permanently gotten rid of change fees for most Economy and premium cabin tickets for travel within the U.S., or between the U.S. and Mexico or the Caribbean. There also won't be change fees for other international travel originating in the U.S. Learn more

For all other standard Economy and premium cabin tickets, change fees are waived through January 31, 2022. Basic Economy tickets can only be changed if they’re issued by December 31, 2021, for travel commencing by December 31, 2021. See terms and conditions
(change fee waiver) Terms and Conditions: https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/notices.html#ChangeFeeTerms

Tickets: Applies to standard fare tickets issued between March 3, 2020, and January 31, 2022, and Basic Economy fare tickets issued between March 3, 2020, and April 30, 2021, or Basic Economy tickets issued between May 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 for travel commencing between August 11 and December 31, 2021.

Changes/Cancellations: Customers with Basic Economy fare tickets issued between March 3, 2020, and April 30, 2021, or between May 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 for travel commencing between August 11 and December 31, 2021, or standard fare tickets issued between March 3, 2020, and January 31, 2022, will be permitted to change without paying a change fee. If the new flight is priced higher, the customer may change for no change fee but must pay the fare difference. If the new flight is priced lower, the customer may change without paying a change fee, and standard fare tickets may be given residual value in the form of a future flight credit. If you purchased your ticket from a third-party agency, please check with the issuing agency for the rules of your ticket. Contract fares such as special bulk fares sold by travel agencies (e.g., opaque) may not be eligible for free changes. Any changes or cancellations must occur prior to ticketed travel date.

Please note: As of August 30, 2020, we no longer have change fees for most Economy and premium cabin tickets for flights within the U.S., or between the U.S. and Mexico or the Caribbean. We also no longer have change fees for international travel originating in the U.S. For more information visit united.com/changefee.

Fare validity: This applies to all standard fare tickets issued through January 31, 2022, all destinations, all points-of-sale, all travel dates available for sale, provided ticket number starts with 016. It also applies to Basic Economy fare tickets issued through April 30, 2021 or Basic Economy tickets issued between May 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 for travel commencing between August 11 and December 31, 2021, all destinations, all points of sale, provided the ticket number starts with 016.

Miscellaneous: Fares, fees, rules and offers are subject to change without notice. Seats are capacity-controlled and may not be available on all flights or days. Some fares are nonrefundable except during the first 24 hours after purchase. Other restrictions may apply.

New fine print (1 April 2021)
  • You can change Basic Economy tickets without change fees if the ticket is issued by April 30, 2021,
  • and all other international travel without change fees if the ticket is issued by May 31, 2021.
  • If the new flight is priced lower, the customer may change without paying a change fee, and may be given residual value in the form of a future flight credit.
Updated 30 Sept 2021
Tickets: Applies to standard fare tickets issued between March 3, 2020, and December 31, 2021, and Basic Economy fare tickets issued between March 3, 2020, and April 30, 2021, or Basic Economy tickets issued between May 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 for travel commencing between August 11 and December 31, 2021.

Changes/Cancellations: Customers with Basic Economy fare tickets issued between March 3, 2020, and April 30, 2021, or between May 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 for travel commencing between August 11 and December 31, 2021, or standard fare tickets issued between March 3, 2020, and December 31, 2021, will be permitted to change without paying a change fee. If the new flight is priced higher, the customer may change for no change fee but must pay the fare difference. If the new flight is priced lower, the customer may change without paying a change fee, and standard fare tickets may be given residual value in the form of a future flight credit. If you purchased your ticket from a third-party agency, please check with the issuing agency for the rules of your ticket. Contract fares such as special bulk fares sold by travel agencies (e.g., opaque) may not be eligible for free changes. Any changes or cancellations must occur prior to ticketed travel date.

Please note: As of August 30, 2020, we no longer have change fees for most Economy and premium cabin tickets for flights within the U.S., or between the U.S. and Mexico or the Caribbean. We also no longer have change fees for international travel originating in the U.S. For more information visit united.com/changefee.

Fare validity: This applies to all standard fare tickets issued through December 31, 2021, all destinations, all points-of-sale, all travel dates available for sale, provided ticket number starts with 016. It also applies to Basic Economy fare tickets issued through April 30, 2021 or Basic Economy tickets issued between May 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 for travel commencing between August 11 and December 31, 2021, all destinations, all points of sale, provided the ticket number starts with 016.

Miscellaneous: Fares, fees, rules and offers are subject to change without notice. Seats are capacity-controlled and may not be available on all flights or days. Some fares are nonrefundable except during the first 24 hours after purchase. Other restrictions may apply.

Originally Posted by spartacusmcfly
I just went through the process on a post-April 1st itinerary and was issued the new FFC vs ETCs. The agent tried to explain the new FFCs in detail:

The Bad:
1. No more ETC
2. No transferability
3. No combinability
4. Given there is no combinability, there is no more date-pushing (meaning new expiration date is most favorable of combined cert dates)

The Good:
5. Can use multiple towards a single itinerary (up to 10 she said)
6. Can pull from multiple accounts (3 from yours, 3 from spouse), so you don't have to split the locator to use from multiple accounts
7. Can be used on partner itineraries as long as one segment is UA
8. The FFCs show up in the account of the recipient and the booker. So I can see my spouse's FFCs if I booked the itenerary
9. FFCs now show up as a payment method in the app booking flow. For multi-passenger FFCs, both passengers show up!

I can live with all this, in exchange for no change fees, and reclaiming residual!
The fine-print on the change rules:
  1. If the new ticket costs less, the residual value from the old ticket is lost
  2. Multiple cancelled reservations cannot be combined to pay for a more expensive ticket
  3. Strictly U.S. and Mexico or the Caribbean only (excludes Canada) and excludes Basic Economy and International flights
    1. Worldwide until Dec 31, 2020
United Airlines Permanently Eliminates Change Fees
Applies to all Economy and Premium cabin tickets for travel within the U.S.;
Airline also announces complimentary standby travel, becomes only U.S. airline that will let all customers in all classes of service fly same-day standby for free
With these new options, United gives more flexibility than any other U.S. carrier when customers' travel plans change
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CHICAGO, Aug. 30, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- The only thing constant is change and at United Airlines, some of the fees associated with changes related to flying are gone for good. The carrier announced today that it is permanently getting rid of change fees on all standard Economy and Premium cabin tickets for travel within the U.S., effective immediately. And starting on January 1, 2021, any United customer can fly standby for free on a flight departing the day of their travel regardless of the type of ticket or class of service, a first among U.S. carriers, while MileagePlus Premier members can confirm a seat on a different flight on the same day with the same departure and arrival cities as their original ticket if a seat in the same ticket fare class is available.

United is also extending its waiver for new tickets issued through December 31, 2020, to permit unlimited changes with no fee. This policy applies to all ticket types issued after March 3, 2020 and is valid for domestic and international travel. With these improvements, no U.S. airline gives their customers more flexibility when booking – and changing – their travel plans than United Airlines.

"Change is inevitable these days – but it's how we respond to it that matters most. When we hear from customers about where we can improve, getting rid of this fee is often the top request," said Scott Kirby, CEO of United Airlines, in a video message to customers. "Following previous tough times, airlines made difficult decisions to survive, sometimes at the expense of customer service. United Airlines won't be following that same playbook as we come out of this crisis. Instead, we're taking a completely different approach – and looking at new ways to serve our customers better."

The new change fee policy applies to all standard Economy and Premium cabin tickets for travel within the U.S. 50 states, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands and customers will not be limited in the number of times they adjust their flights.

Additionally, United is giving customers more flexibility to change their flights on the day of their travel so they can head home if a meeting ends earlier or enjoy a few more hours on vacation. With the ability to list for same-day standby for free, customers will now have an option to take a different flight with the same origin and destination airports as their original itinerary if space is available at departure. This enhanced option will be available to all customers for travel within the U.S. and to and from international destinations beginning on January 1, 2021. Customers who want to switch flights will be able to add themselves to the standby list through United's award-winning mobile app, on united.com or at the airport no later than 30 minutes prior to departure for domestic flights and one hour before departure on international flights.

The carrier is also improving the travel experience for its MileagePlus members including waiving all redeposit fees on award travel for flights changed or cancelled more than 30 days before departure and allowing all MileagePlus Premier members to confirm a different flight on the day of their travel. As a way to thank MileagePlus Premier members for their loyalty, beginning January 1, 2021, all Premier members will be able to confirm a seat for free on a different flight with the same departure and arrival cities as their original ticket. This expanded option will allow MileagePlus Silver members and above to confirm a new seat in the same ticket fare class if space is available. Earlier this year, United announced that it will extend status for MileagePlus Premier and Global Services members through January 2022. United also reduced thresholds for Premier qualification by 50 percent for each status level, to make reaching an even higher status tier easier.

For more information on United's new flexible travel policies, visit https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...hange-fee.html.

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Old Jan 6, 2022, 10:00 am
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We have open jaw BE tickets EWR-LHR and ZRH-EWR in April. The flight there is on UA and the one back is on LX metal. I am sort of kicking myself for booking this trip on BE instead of standard economy because my understanding that these tickets must be flown as they are or they are worthless. Is that understanding correct? I can't get through to someone at United but I am reading hints of BE international tickets having some flexibility on the change fees T&Cs page, although that just might my optimism. From within my United.com account, they show as completely unchangeable.

Is my only chance of getting my money back (or credit) for these flights hoping for a schedule change or flight cancellation? Is there a chance of United extending the BE change allowances beyond the now expired 12/31/21 deadline?
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by nartman
We have open jaw BE tickets EWR-LHR and ZRH-EWR in April. ....
When did you book?
Basic Economy tickets can only be changed if they're issued by December 31, 2021, for travel commencing by December 31, 2021.

Originally Posted by nartman
Is my only chance of getting my money back (or credit) for these flights hoping for a schedule change or flight cancellation?
For a refund, yes
(or cancel within 24 hours of booking)
Originally Posted by nartman
Is there a chance of United extending the BE change allowances beyond the now expired 12/31/21 deadline?
A chance yes, but not something to count on
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
We booked back in November.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by nartman
We booked back in November.
Then the BE tickets can be changed (may take an agent) but not voluntarily refunded. It is the issue / purchase date that determines the waiver eligibility.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by nartman
We have open jaw BE tickets EWR-LHR and ZRH-EWR in April. The flight there is on UA and the one back is on LX metal. I am sort of kicking myself for booking this trip on BE instead of standard economy because my understanding that these tickets must be flown as they are or they are worthless. Is that understanding correct? I can't get through to someone at United but I am reading hints of BE international tickets having some flexibility on the change fees T&Cs page, although that just might my optimism. From within my United.com account, they show as completely unchangeable.

Is my only chance of getting my money back (or credit) for these flights hoping for a schedule change or flight cancellation? Is there a chance of United extending the BE change allowances beyond the now expired 12/31/21 deadline?
IMO, your concern highlights a very important consideration to make before choosing the absolute cheapest ticket in BE. For me, even though I don't make changes often typically (maybe once every couple of years or so), this is something I wouldn't want to give up the ability to do, even if there is a fee for it. Forget about seating, bags and the other benefits missing, this for me is why there is a very seldom chance I would ever book a BE fare, domestic or International. Especially until our world gets back to a semi-normal place.

Yes, a schedule change or flight cancelation is probably your best hope of being able to do anything with these tickets other than fly them as is. Especially with everything going on now, its certainly not the strangest thing that would happen. It's also certainly possible they might re-extend the BE waiver...when the initial BE waiver expired in March last year, they did add it back again after a few weeks, I think. I can't recall if tickets booked during that interim period went back to officially changeable with the updated waiver, though I suspect even if the system itself didn't allow it, perhaps agents would do it.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Then the BE tickets can be changed (may take an agent) but not voluntarily refunded. It is the issue / purchase date that determines the waiver eligibility.
Thank you. Last time I called I hung up after 45 minutes because I had to take a work call! So according to your understanding of the waiver, I can change these tickets with (or without?) a fee if I call?
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by nartman
Thank you. Last time I called I hung up after 45 minutes because I had to take a work call! So according to your understanding of the waiver, I can change these tickets with (or without?) a fee if I call?
you can always call and ask, maybe they’ll do it. You should try and decipher the statement for yourself, but for thise with BE from the US, it notes:

Basic Economy tickets can only be changed if they're issued by December 31, 2021, for travel commencing by December 31, 2021.
it’s clear to me, that for BE tickets, it doesn’t apply anymore. Again, an agent might do it (if the computer will let them). I have no opinions on what they should do, for the record, just posting what is promoted on the site.
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Old Jan 8, 2022, 12:59 pm
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The one thing that is crystal clear to me is BE is a terrible fare to purchase given the risks associated. The only way you will get a refund for a BE if booked this year is if the flight is cancelled, where you can ask for a refund for trip in vain. Buying a standard economy fare will prevent loss of a ticket if a change is needed, it will give you a seat assignment prior to check-in if you so desire, and it will allow flexibility ($0 change fee but pay the fare difference) to change dates voluntarily. To me, this is a no-brainer, even if I have to pay 40% more for the ticket. My schedule is too flaky to take the risk on a BE fare... and I would prefer to sit next to Mrs. Moore when I fly. I choose to find other ways to pinch pennies.
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Old Jan 8, 2022, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by jjmoore
The one thing that is crystal clear to me is BE is a terrible fare to purchase given the risks associated.
That may be true for you, but for the vast majority of leisure travelers, price is all that matters and it makes sense. Most people book flights and actually fly the flights they've booked. I can count on one hand the number of times I've voluntarily changed a ticket in the past 40 years.
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Old Jan 8, 2022, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
That may be true for you, but for the vast majority of leisure travelers, price is all that matters and it makes sense. Most people book flights and actually fly the flights they've booked. I can count on one hand the number of times I've voluntarily changed a ticket in the past 40 years.
i can probably count that number on 2 hands, but still, for me, would never book BE unless it wAs a fairly cheap ticket, and just me. And only because of the complete lack of flexibility on changes. I can handle lack of seat assignment (can do that for $ now), lack of E+, lack of potential CPU (silver here, so that’s only once in a blue moon anyway), etc. But not being able to change at all is a nonstarter in most cases.

That latter point goes for times quadrupole or more in a pandemic, where even expert predictions about what the future will bring are basically guesses.

everyone can make their own choices, and I agree, most leisure travelers will just pick the lowest upfront price, regardless of the consequences. I’d also guess a lot, potentially most, travelers on ULCCs like Spirit and Frontier, actually end up paying more in the end for their tickets then if they’d bought a regular fare on a legacy, even though the ULCC upfront fares are cheaper.
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Old Jan 8, 2022, 11:26 pm
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Hopefully this is the right thread for this question... I am contemplating a trip SFO-YYC (and return). The fare for Air Canada-operated flights (actually Air Canada Express - Jazz) is lower than for UA-operated flights on this route. Does the no change fee policy apply to these partner-operated flights, provided I booked by January 31 (since this is international)? (As far as I understand, this would be ticketed by UA, UA flight number, but operated by Air Canada.) Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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Old Jan 9, 2022, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by epi231
Hopefully this is the right thread for this question... I am contemplating a trip SFO-YYC (and return). The fare for Air Canada-operated flights (actually Air Canada Express - Jazz) is lower than for UA-operated flights on this route. Does the no change fee policy apply to these partner-operated flights, provided I booked by January 31 (since this is international)? (As far as I understand, this would be ticketed by UA, UA flight number, but operated by Air Canada.) Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
yes. Change fees are governed by the fare rules, which if you are buying it from UA are controlled by UA, since it’s UAs fare and UAs rules.
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Old Jan 23, 2022, 11:00 pm
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What's the best strategy to just reprice an itinerary when the price drops? Cancel and rebook, or is there a way to do it while keeping the original ticket?
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Old Jan 23, 2022, 11:11 pm
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Originally Posted by adambadam
What's the best strategy to just reprice an itinerary when the price drops? Cancel and rebook, or is there a way to do it while keeping the original ticket?
Been discussed on this thread a few times.

I’ve always changed to a different flight, then changed back. Canceling and then trying to rebook has never worked for me (says ‘unavailable’ for same fare type on original flight).

you should also be able to cancel and rebook a completely new PNR, using the old one at the payment step to use the existing funds.
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Old Jan 25, 2022, 6:35 am
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What happens if you have a BE fare that for some reason is not changeable (I know they keep creating waivers, but let’s assume there isn’t one), and you find you have covid on the day of departure?
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