HKG-SIN to return! (cargo only initially)
Jun 15, 2020, 9:18 am
#106
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I also crave for the opportunity to fly this route. I have been flying between US and SIN on United since 1993. My starting and ending point has been Miami for the most part. They were longggggg trips with 2-stop via SFO/LAX/ORD and then NRT/HKG.
Prior to 1997 when airlines were operated out of the old Hong Kong Airport, I would jump on the opportunity to fly in and out of HKG. The views of Kowloon neighborhoods were spectacular both days and nights, landing or take-off pending on the wind direction. Post 1997, I prefer NRT so I could sleep on the last leg into SIN and having an early morning nap on flight from SIN into NRT. there are more choices getting back to stateside at NRT. As others have pointed out, the 6 am departure on HKk-SIN flight is brutal, especially when I had to fly to Miami. The trip seemed never end.
I have been on LAX-SIN and it was too long for me. With UA's standard two-meal services on all transoceanic flights, it does not make sense to only cater two meals on flights such as SFO-SIN or IAH-SYD.
Prior to 1997 when airlines were operated out of the old Hong Kong Airport, I would jump on the opportunity to fly in and out of HKG. The views of Kowloon neighborhoods were spectacular both days and nights, landing or take-off pending on the wind direction. Post 1997, I prefer NRT so I could sleep on the last leg into SIN and having an early morning nap on flight from SIN into NRT. there are more choices getting back to stateside at NRT. As others have pointed out, the 6 am departure on HKk-SIN flight is brutal, especially when I had to fly to Miami. The trip seemed never end.
I have been on LAX-SIN and it was too long for me. With UA's standard two-meal services on all transoceanic flights, it does not make sense to only cater two meals on flights such as SFO-SIN or IAH-SYD.
Jun 15, 2020, 4:58 pm
#107
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I just checked out the flight schedule in July and made these observations for SFO-HKG-SIN:
1) Route will be operated by a 789 with old business (2-2-2) seats; so no Premium Plus seats for SFO-HKG which is a Polaris + Premium Plus route
2) Departs SFO at 1:40pm as UA877, usually the flight # for the night departure SFO-HKG
3) Weds/Thurs/Fri departures will continue onto SIN; so Tues / Sat SFO-HKG-SFO only
4) First flight July 6, last flight July 31 (Last SIN-HKG-SFO August 2)
5) Aug 3 and beyond show old schedule (for now): SFO-HKG returns to 772, UA877 departure ex-SFO returns to 11:50pm and SFO-SIN direct flights return
1) Route will be operated by a 789 with old business (2-2-2) seats; so no Premium Plus seats for SFO-HKG which is a Polaris + Premium Plus route
2) Departs SFO at 1:40pm as UA877, usually the flight # for the night departure SFO-HKG
3) Weds/Thurs/Fri departures will continue onto SIN; so Tues / Sat SFO-HKG-SFO only
4) First flight July 6, last flight July 31 (Last SIN-HKG-SFO August 2)
5) Aug 3 and beyond show old schedule (for now): SFO-HKG returns to 772, UA877 departure ex-SFO returns to 11:50pm and SFO-SIN direct flights return
Jun 15, 2020, 6:12 pm
#108
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I just checked out the flight schedule in July and made these observations for SFO-HKG-SIN:
1) Route will be operated by a 789 with old business (2-2-2) seats; so no Premium Plus seats for SFO-HKG which is a Polaris + Premium Plus route
2) Departs SFO at 1:40pm as UA877, usually the flight # for the night departure SFO-HKG
3) Weds/Thurs/Fri departures will continue onto SIN; so Tues / Sat SFO-HKG-SFO only
4) First flight July 6, last flight July 31 (Last SIN-HKG-SFO August 2)
5) Aug 3 and beyond show old schedule (for now): SFO-HKG returns to 772, UA877 departure ex-SFO returns to 11:50pm and SFO-SIN direct flights return
1) Route will be operated by a 789 with old business (2-2-2) seats; so no Premium Plus seats for SFO-HKG which is a Polaris + Premium Plus route
2) Departs SFO at 1:40pm as UA877, usually the flight # for the night departure SFO-HKG
3) Weds/Thurs/Fri departures will continue onto SIN; so Tues / Sat SFO-HKG-SFO only
4) First flight July 6, last flight July 31 (Last SIN-HKG-SFO August 2)
5) Aug 3 and beyond show old schedule (for now): SFO-HKG returns to 772, UA877 departure ex-SFO returns to 11:50pm and SFO-SIN direct flights return
Jun 15, 2020, 6:20 pm
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Thanks Kevflyer, interesting. A hypothetical: so, if someone wanted to mileage run SFO-HKG-SIN-HKG-SFO in July (not that many would want to do so), one would need to depart SFO W/Th only. HKG has an 8 hour max transit rule, assume SIN has/will have similar. Although SIN allows transit hotel stay or holding area. Departing Tu/Fri/Sat wouldn’t work. Correct? Am I missing anything, other than it might be a long and miserable experience?
Mileage/status runner beware during Covid-19. Transits are only permitted on approved flights at SIN and HK.
Jun 15, 2020, 6:26 pm
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Thanks Kevflyer, interesting. A hypothetical: so, if someone wanted to mileage run SFO-HKG-SIN-HKG-SFO in July (not that many would want to do so), one would need to depart SFO W/Th only. HKG has an 8 hour max transit rule, assume SIN has/will have similar. Although SIN allows transit hotel stay or holding area. Departing Tu/Fri/Sat wouldn’t work. Correct? Am I missing anything, other than it might be a long and miserable experience?
Transit in SIN is restricted. Airlines have to file with Changi airport authority with details of flights for transit approval. It is not an open ended transit procedure pre-Covid 19. Also transit passengers are being kept in a dedicated area that is closed off to shops, restaurants, lounges and transit hotel.
Mileage/status runner beware during Covid-19. Transits are only permitted on approved flights at SIN and HK.
Mileage/status runner beware during Covid-19. Transits are only permitted on approved flights at SIN and HK.
https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/s...t/?id=kataac8r
Jun 15, 2020, 6:28 pm
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Jun 15, 2020, 6:32 pm
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Transit in SIN is restricted. Airlines have to file with Changi airport authority with details of flights for transit approval. It is not an open ended transit procedure pre-Covid 19. Also transit passengers are being kept in a dedicated area that is closed off to shops, restaurants, lounges and transit hotel.
Mileage/status runner beware during Covid-19. Transits are only permitted on approved flights at SIN and HK.
Mileage/status runner beware during Covid-19. Transits are only permitted on approved flights at SIN and HK.
Jsloan - not if you’re approaching a MM level! 😜 Very not pointless! Whether or not traveling TPAC in July 2020 is a wise decision is a separate discussion.
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Jun 15, 2020, 6:36 pm
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:-) As long as you remember that United hasn't promised any specific benefits for life, just that they will call you 1K. They may introduce United 2K, 3K, 4K, and 5K at any time and not be in violation of their promise; they can decide that 1Ks no longer get PlusPoints but 2Ks do...
Jun 15, 2020, 6:48 pm
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:-) As long as you remember that United hasn't promised any specific benefits for life, just that they will call you 1K. They may introduce United 2K, 3K, 4K, and 5K at any time and not be in violation of their promise; they can decide that 1Ks no longer get PlusPoints but 2Ks do...
Jun 15, 2020, 6:55 pm
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Answering my own question, probably not wise for the reasons mentioned above plus the obvious health risks.
But to continue the hypothetical.....at least HKG is clear - 8 hrs max, one ticket, same airline. Fine, clear.
Changi is very unclear/confusing, at least so far:
https://www.changiairport.com/en/air...h-airport.html
To be safe, you need to achieve TomK. (See ua1flyer). 😂
But to continue the hypothetical.....at least HKG is clear - 8 hrs max, one ticket, same airline. Fine, clear.
Changi is very unclear/confusing, at least so far:
https://www.changiairport.com/en/air...h-airport.html
To be safe, you need to achieve TomK. (See ua1flyer). 😂
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Jun 15, 2020, 9:00 pm
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:-) As long as you remember that United hasn't promised any specific benefits for life, just that they will call you 1K. They may introduce United 2K, 3K, 4K, and 5K at any time and not be in violation of their promise; they can decide that 1Ks no longer get PlusPoints but 2Ks do...
Jun 16, 2020, 9:57 pm
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Answering my own question, probably not wise for the reasons mentioned above plus the obvious health risks.
But to continue the hypothetical.....at least HKG is clear - 8 hrs max, one ticket, same airline. Fine, clear.
Changi is very unclear/confusing, at least so far:
https://www.changiairport.com/en/air...h-airport.html
To be safe, you need to achieve TomK. (See ua1flyer). 😂
But to continue the hypothetical.....at least HKG is clear - 8 hrs max, one ticket, same airline. Fine, clear.
Changi is very unclear/confusing, at least so far:
https://www.changiairport.com/en/air...h-airport.html
To be safe, you need to achieve TomK. (See ua1flyer). 😂
We still need to be patient. The airport has said opening up to transit passengers will be a gradual process. And I don't see UA in any rush to apply for approval since this route is temporary. Only hope is the airport opens transit up to all passengers.
Jul 15, 2020, 3:18 am
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Heard about UA not flying to HKG due to the testing requirement.
Flight is loaded onto system with 789 with 2-2-2
Is there any news on it because the flight still seems to be bookable for August?
Also it seems that there is no PZ space even though very wide open in J. Any idea?
Flight is loaded onto system with 789 with 2-2-2
Is there any news on it because the flight still seems to be bookable for August?
Also it seems that there is no PZ space even though very wide open in J. Any idea?
Last edited by tdlim; Jul 15, 2020 at 3:23 am