Aug 3, 2019, 1:19 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
2019 GS Timeline:
- First requalification notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
- First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
- Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
- Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
- First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
If you have received notification about your 2020 GS status, please post in
Global Services 2020 Notifications (ONLY) -- "no discussion" (and as title suggests, this is just for notifications, use this thread for discussions / queries
and
Form Link to collect this years qualification (or rejection) information
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
Last year's thread
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion / Questions
Oct 18, 2019, 3:12 pm
#181
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.997MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,861
Need to remove any non-UA operated flights from the PQDs. UA ticket stock is not the metric.
Also, need to report your 3-year running UA operated PQD total (seems UA is looking for at least $100K for that)
Also, need to report your 3-year running UA operated PQD total (seems UA is looking for at least $100K for that)
Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 pm
#182
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MHT
Programs: UA 1k & MM, Accor/LeClub Platinum
Posts: 14
Oct 18, 2019, 4:56 pm
#183
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: UA GS, UA 2MM, HH LT Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 1,803
2016: $26K
2017: $33K
2018: $34K
2019: $52K by year-end
All UA metal - DEN based, most fares P, Z and a dozen or so C, D domestic
2017: $33K
2018: $34K
2019: $52K by year-end
All UA metal - DEN based, most fares P, Z and a dozen or so C, D domestic
Oct 18, 2019, 5:37 pm
#184
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: United Global Services, Amtrak Select Executive
Posts: 4,098
Oct 18, 2019, 5:41 pm
#185
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: BOS, PVG
Programs: United 1K and 1MM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 10,000
2017 $24K
2018 $50K GS
2019 $53K
All UA metal spending.
I think he is in.
Oct 20, 2019, 11:18 am
#186
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: UA GS, UA 2MM, HH LT Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 1,803
Oct 20, 2019, 5:59 pm
#187
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 3
Waiting to see if I get GS, would be a 1st for me.
I am currently sitting at
210,102 PQMs
71.5 PQS
64,107 PQD
All on United Metal, most likely have another 10 to 15K in spend left to go before the end of Dec 2019.
210,102 PQMs
71.5 PQS
64,107 PQD
All on United Metal, most likely have another 10 to 15K in spend left to go before the end of Dec 2019.
Last edited by Chris Bates; Oct 20, 2019 at 6:13 pm
Oct 20, 2019, 6:16 pm
#188
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,163
It will be interesting to see how many of these ‘I’m at $30-$50K spend’ situations go as far as 2020 qualification. I can’t fathom that UA will grant exponentially higher benefits (GS vs 1K) when the spend is 1.5X to 2X higher than 1K requirement. Yes, I’m mixing two qualification years here but GS is not a published benefit so UA can change its tune whenever it wants. If there’s any logic to MP qual changes UA just announced, I’d have to believe GS qual goes to $100,000.
Last edited by AirbusFan2B; Oct 20, 2019 at 6:38 pm
Oct 20, 2019, 6:52 pm
#189
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
It will be interesting to see how many of these ‘I’m at $30-$50K spend’ situations go as far as 2020 qualification. I can’t fathom that UA will grant exponentially higher benefits (GS vs 1K) when the spend is 1.5X to 2X higher than 1K requirement. Yes, I’m mixing two qualification years here but GS is not a published benefit so UA can change its tune whenever it wants. If there’s any logic to MP qual changes UA just announced, I’d have to believe GS qual goes to $100,000.
Oct 20, 2019, 7:07 pm
#190
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: RAP
Programs: UA 1K - 3 MM, CLEAR
Posts: 49
I agree.... I have qualified three years in a row with low- to mid- $40k per year on about 90K BIS miles - almost always FC/BC - only one to two internationals per year - non-hub airport. $100k limit would kill my hopes.
Oct 20, 2019, 7:28 pm
#191
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: UA LT GS | UA LT Club | Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 1,250
Oct 20, 2019, 7:40 pm
#192
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,163
1K ranks are going to thin - I believe dramatically - we don’t know yet. Imagine Willis Tower feeling we don’t need 5-10 GS boarding a SFO-EWR flight. Would be odd if GS outnumber 1K. Doesn’t feel special anymore to be GS. I can totally see them thinning the GS ranks to 0-1 GS on your average high rev flight, eg SFO-EWR. That’s how it used to be 5-10 years ago.
Oct 20, 2019, 8:11 pm
#193
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
1K ranks are going to thin - I believe dramatically - we don’t know yet. Imagine Willis Tower feeling we don’t need 5-10 GS boarding a SFO-EWR flight. Would be odd if GS outnumber 1K. Doesn’t feel special anymore to be GS. I can totally see them thinning the GS ranks to 0-1 GS on your average high rev flight, eg SFO-EWR. That’s how it used to be 5-10 years ago.
A 1K at least knows what it takes and could spend more to make it, but if United tells me that my $50-60k is no longer good enough to stay GS it wouldn’t motivate me to spend more, it would motivate me to spend substantially less.
Oct 20, 2019, 9:11 pm
#194
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: UA*Lifetime GS, Hyatt* Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 12,339
Just a personal observation without any hard facts, I do feel the number of GS has increased in the past 3 years. I fly pretty much the same routes in the past 10+ years, and I do expect more GS at SFO, ORD, EWR and other hub airports.
On these same routes for 10+ years, the GS boarding has become quite congested with a number of GS scattered around the gate areas, and swarm to board once boarding for GS is announced.
I guess this fine that UA seem to be able to get a lot of high business flyers Boarding Group 1 has become Boarding Group 3 of the past.
On these same routes for 10+ years, the GS boarding has become quite congested with a number of GS scattered around the gate areas, and swarm to board once boarding for GS is announced.
I guess this fine that UA seem to be able to get a lot of high business flyers Boarding Group 1 has become Boarding Group 3 of the past.
Oct 21, 2019, 12:59 am
#195
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: JAX
Programs: United Lifetime 1K, Global Service, Marriott LTTE, Hyatt GLobalist, AA MM,Hertz PC, Global Entry
Posts: 110
Premier Qualifying Miles (PQM):PQM: 254,194
Premier Qualifying Segments (PQS):PQS: 129.5
Premier Qualifying Dollars (PQD):PQD: $71,699 ($62,355 on United)
Premier Qualifying Segments (PQS):PQS: 129.5
Premier Qualifying Dollars (PQD):PQD: $71,699 ($62,355 on United)