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Old Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
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The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply

Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic
-- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.

Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.

What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
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How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.

What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus

To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix
Originally Posted by jsloan
Use f !..-lgt for your extension codes to avoid TATL BE.
Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
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United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...

Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
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Old Aug 14, 2019, 4:28 pm
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We would like to have a stopover leaving for ORD a few days earlier, sticking with ZRH for the same day. Is this at all possible, do you think?
No.
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We would like to have a stopover leaving for ORD a few days earlier, sticking with ZRH for the same day. Is this at all possible, do you think?
For the same fare? No.
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Old Aug 14, 2019, 4:29 pm
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For the same fare? No.
Without throwing away the existing ticket and starting over, no.

"No changes" means.. well.. no changes.
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Originally Posted by jsloan
"No changes" means.. well.. no changes.
So they're not using N for TATL BE? I missed the memo. (Deliberately - don't read those threads, would never consider one of these tix.)
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Old Aug 14, 2019, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
So they're not using N for TATL BE?....
Correct, it can be most any discount economy fare class with -LGT (Like the Light fares partners use)
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Old Aug 14, 2019, 6:30 pm
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So they're not using N for TATL BE? I missed the memo. (Deliberately - don't read those threads, would never consider one of these tix.)
They probably would have liked to use "N," but ultimately they couldn't figure out a way to make the fare buckets work properly with their partners. They've called it "a first step" toward Basic Economy, so we may see the full, no-carry-on, "N" class experience eventually.

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Correct, it can be most any discount economy fare class with -LGT (Like the Light fares partners use)
Right. OP said in the title "First Bag Fee / No Changes," which was the name they went with before just calling it BE. At that price point, I was inclined to believe the OP.
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Old Aug 16, 2019, 9:12 am
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Basic Economy booked on UA on codeshared partners

Greetings,

I'm looking at an IAH-FCO-IAH ticked in November (016):

IAH - YYZ (UA)
YYZ - FCO (AC)
FCO - YUL (AC)
YUL - IAH (AC)

I am a Premier Gold.
The Basic Eco fare is $465 round trip. It says it's a K class.
Other than the first flight operated by UA, all the rest are AC metal. What is the meaning of a purchasing a Basic fare when traveling on a partner airline (Air Canada specifically)? Also, if it's a K class, do I still earn miles?

Thanks,
Roy
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Old Aug 16, 2019, 9:48 am
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Your UA Basic Economy ticket will translate to AC Economy Basic, and you will have the same fare features as if you had purchased that ticket from AC (higher ASR fees, $60 for the first checked bag, etc).

You earn 50% of the distance as PQM, in accordance with the AC Basic Economy earning chart on ua.com.
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Old Aug 16, 2019, 2:22 pm
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With the TATL JV, LH, OS, LX, SN and AC also offers an equivalant TATL BE
UA's TATL BE fare is only combinble (presently) with it TATL JV partners
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
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Old Aug 16, 2019, 2:24 pm
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Thank you! And as a *Gold? I understand paying for seats, but what about my carry on?
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Old Aug 16, 2019, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by rebech34
Thank you! And as a *Gold? I understand paying for seats, but what about my carry on?
No carrier (yet) has a carry-on restricted TATL fare. Will be same as normal Economy.
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I've read this several times, and I'm still confused: as a *gold flying KEF-YYZ on AC, (united ticket)...do I get a free checked bag or not?

I see that I don't get a free bag (post 488) and that I do (post 479, and 489 if I read it properly--star gold benefits apply).

anyone have recent experience?

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Old Aug 19, 2019, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by karenkay
I've read this several times, and I'm still confused: as a *gold flying KEF-YYZ on AC, (united ticket)...do I get a free checked bag or not?

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First, this is an AC question, as AC operated flights but the TATL JV for BE includes a 1st checked bag fee (not sure if AC waives for *G, UA and LH do)

Is KEF-YYZ a TATL Basic Economy fare?

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Old Aug 19, 2019, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
First, this is an AC question, as AC operated flights but the TATL JV for BE includes a 1st checked bag fee (not sure if AC waives for *G, UA and LH do)

Is KEF-YYZ a TATL Basic Economy fare?
you're correct...figured since it was on 016 stock I'd try asking here, just in case. KEF-YYZ is the return, the outbound is on UA (IAD-KEF, then KEF-YYZ-IAD). it's all TATL basic economy.
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by karenkay
you're correct...figured since it was on 016 stock I'd try asking here, just in case. KEF-YYZ is the return, the outbound is on UA (IAD-KEF, then KEF-YYZ-IAD). it's all TATL basic economy.
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