Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
Last edit by: Kacee
The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
Aug 19, 2019, 6:43 pm
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thanks, I understand that. figured that perhaps a fellow UA flyer had recent experience they could share.
per an AC flyertalker, *G does get a free TATL bag on BE, but according to the UA website that's not the case. I suppose I'll just have to wait and see.
per an AC flyertalker, *G does get a free TATL bag on BE, but according to the UA website that's not the case. I suppose I'll just have to wait and see.
Aug 19, 2019, 6:56 pm
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Aug 20, 2019, 7:19 am
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Yes, AC gives first bag free to *G on Basic Economy, but it's always worth checking as these days some carriers do not!
Aug 21, 2019, 12:00 pm
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EWR-LHR LX Code-Share Light Fare*G Bag ?
looking to book light fare on swiss code-share for United flight between Newark and London, says no baggage it, but does that apply to star a G, can I just purchase if it does.?
And please excuse if already posted, new to this forum, usually on the Air Canada thread
And please excuse if already posted, new to this forum, usually on the Air Canada thread
Aug 21, 2019, 12:03 pm
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If operated by United (UA metal), *G get a free checked bag on a Basic Economy fare. Actually, according to the baggage calculator, the waiver is for the first two bags. Ticket stock or marketing carrier don't matter for elite waivers.
Aug 26, 2019, 10:13 pm
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I've read this several times, and I'm still confused: as a *gold flying KEF-YYZ on AC, (united ticket)...do I get a free checked bag or not?
I see that I don't get a free bag (post 488) and that I do (post 479, and 489 if I read it properly--star gold benefits apply).
anyone have recent experience?
thanks.
I see that I don't get a free bag (post 488) and that I do (post 479, and 489 if I read it properly--star gold benefits apply).
anyone have recent experience?
thanks.
Aug 28, 2019, 10:01 pm
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Inept booking by a conference's travel agent has introduced me to a fun corner case: I'm on an LX "Light" fare IAD-GVA-LIS and then LIS-EWR-DCA that UA's site translates as Basic Economy. (This fare is some $300 above what UA's app quoted for the same flights*, but let's set that aside for now.) A rep on the travel agent's web chat heard me out and, after prolonged delays to chat with LX's agents, secured me an E+ seat on the IAD-GVA leg and E- seats on LIS-EWR and EWR-DCA. My question: What are the odds United's system kicks me out of that E+ seat at check-in and then the other comped seats?
* Stupidly enough, I could use PQD more than PQM at the moment.
* Stupidly enough, I could use PQD more than PQM at the moment.
Aug 28, 2019, 10:04 pm
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If you have a seat assignment on a UA operated flight, you are probably safe BUT if there is any that causes a sweep (aircraft change, some schedule changes, ... ) you may be gone.
Aug 29, 2019, 7:03 pm
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One thing I know for sure: I hate hate hate hate how the app displays this enormous Basic Economy warning when I bring up the booking. Every time. I know this fare sucks, United; you don't have to rub it in my face this often.
Aug 30, 2019, 10:01 am
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Given the number of "my family member somehow booked Basic Economy and now needs to sit together" threads though.. not sure they're doing it wrong to scream it at you every chance they get..
Aug 30, 2019, 5:32 pm
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Checked bag, carryon, and seat selection on LH, SN Light fares as UA codeshare?
Hello quick question on United BE international codeshares ticket
The ticket I'm looking to buy as United BE:
ORD to ARN with Lufthansa
ARN to CHS with Brussels Airlines and UA
Since I have the explorer card, I know I can get free checked bag on the return flight. I can also pay for seat selection if I want.
Thanks
What about the ORD to ARN Lufthansa flight? Do I get free checked bag and free carry on? Is there anyway to pay for seat selection with Lufthansa on BE international ticket?
The ticket I'm looking to buy as United BE:
ORD to ARN with Lufthansa
ARN to CHS with Brussels Airlines and UA
Since I have the explorer card, I know I can get free checked bag on the return flight. I can also pay for seat selection if I want.
Thanks
What about the ORD to ARN Lufthansa flight? Do I get free checked bag and free carry on? Is there anyway to pay for seat selection with Lufthansa on BE international ticket?
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 30, 2019 at 6:04 pm Reason: Moved to TATL BE thread
Aug 30, 2019, 5:57 pm
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The Chase MP branded credit card is doing nothing useful at the LH / SN checkins. The connecting UA segment or UA ticket stock does not change that.
LH/SN flights use "Light fare" as their BE terminology
LH/SN flights use "Light fare" as their BE terminology
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 30, 2019 at 7:36 pm
Aug 30, 2019, 7:08 pm
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Hello quick question on United BE international codeshares ticket
The ticket I'm looking to buy as United BE:
ORD to ARN with Lufthansa
ARN to CHS with Brussels Airlines and UA
Since I have the explorer card, I know I can get free checked bag on the return flight. I can also pay for seat selection if I want.
Thanks
What about the ORD to ARN Lufthansa flight? Do I get free checked bag and free carry on? Is there anyway to pay for seat selection with Lufthansa on BE international ticket?
The ticket I'm looking to buy as United BE:
ORD to ARN with Lufthansa
ARN to CHS with Brussels Airlines and UA
Since I have the explorer card, I know I can get free checked bag on the return flight. I can also pay for seat selection if I want.
Thanks
What about the ORD to ARN Lufthansa flight? Do I get free checked bag and free carry on? Is there anyway to pay for seat selection with Lufthansa on BE international ticket?
The bag waiver for UA, which is what you get for the card, is only available when checking in with UA. Since you wont check in with UA in either direction, you will only get the allowance shown on your ticket. In the case of a BE fare (named ‘light’ on LH and SN), that should be zero.