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Related thread - Is this IDB? Am I entitled to IDB compensation? [Consolidated]
VDB -- Voluntary Denied Boarding -- is when the flight is overbooked and the airline is looking for volunteers to change their travel plans. It is voluntary and you do not need to participate. The compensation is 100% negotiable. It could be $100's in future travel vouchers, it might be food vouchers, a different routing (perhaps more direct or for MR's more indirect
), perhaps lodging if overnight and sometimes a bump in cabin. It all depends on how desperate the airline is and how flexible you are.
The standard UA policy is after you have agreed to a voucher amount and additional VDBs are still needed, if those passengers get a higher amount, you will also get the higher amount.
The are no DoT requirement for VDB compensation, it is whatever you and the airline agree to. The DoT does require the airline to try VDB before moving to IDB.
Voluntary Denied Boarding - VDB/Bump on UA [2017]
Voluntary Denied Boarding - VDB/Bump on UA [2016]
Voluntary Denied Boarding - VDB/Bump on UA [2015]
Related thread - Is this IDB? Am I entitled to IDB compensation? [Consolidated]
VDB -- Voluntary Denied Boarding -- is when the flight is overbooked and the airline is looking for volunteers to change their travel plans. It is voluntary and you do not need to participate. The compensation is 100% negotiable. It could be $100's in future travel vouchers, it might be food vouchers, a different routing (perhaps more direct or for MR's more indirect
), perhaps lodging if overnight and sometimes a bump in cabin. It all depends on how desperate the airline is and how flexible you are.The standard UA policy is after you have agreed to a voucher amount and additional VDBs are still needed, if those passengers get a higher amount, you will also get the higher amount.
The are no DoT requirement for VDB compensation, it is whatever you and the airline agree to. The DoT does require the airline to try VDB before moving to IDB.
The changing story of IDB on UA since the merge and post-Dao
source: BTS Data
source: BTS Data
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IDB/VDB data for UA (w/o UX) 1st Qtr Year VDB IDB 2018 8,214 27 2017 15,917 900 2016 14,380 929 2015 17,373 1,817 2014 21,469 4,395 2013 14,095 2,592 IDB/VDB data for UA (w/ UX) 1st Qtr Year VDB IDB 2018 16,973 51
Voluntary Denied Boarding - VDB/Bump Experiences on UA [2018]
Apr 16, 2018, 9:21 am
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Possibly, but not necessarily. They should have been rebooked into positive space, not standby, unless somehow the delay was the passenger's fault. Now, if there was no positive space -- i.e., Y0 -- then, yes, they'd have been put onto standby.
Apr 16, 2018, 12:10 pm
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May 6, 2018, 8:34 am
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Scored a $600 VDB last week while I was flying on a sub $300 P fare.
Had SDC'd my original XXX-IAH flight to XXX-SFO-IAH the night before. While I was inflight to SFO, SFO-SEA-IAH opened up so I hopped on that for more PQM & another meal. By the time I got to SFO, online check-in was not working for my reservation (locked?) & the entire seat map was now grayed out in flight status. I heard my name over the intercom to report to my departing gate for a special message. When I got to the gate, the GA asked if I wouldn't mind taking the direct flight to IAH, and acted like he was doing me a favor. I said no thank you, as I wanted the extra PQM, then he jumped to a $600 offer which I accepted. I think there must have been a cancellation after I SDC'd which pushed more FC pax onto me SFO-SEA flight.
After he was done(and I could access my reservation on the APP) I walked around the corner and looked for my next SDC. Imagine my surprise when I saw he had rebooked me into "F". That is like handing a blank check to a SDC addict
Had SDC'd my original XXX-IAH flight to XXX-SFO-IAH the night before. While I was inflight to SFO, SFO-SEA-IAH opened up so I hopped on that for more PQM & another meal. By the time I got to SFO, online check-in was not working for my reservation (locked?) & the entire seat map was now grayed out in flight status. I heard my name over the intercom to report to my departing gate for a special message. When I got to the gate, the GA asked if I wouldn't mind taking the direct flight to IAH, and acted like he was doing me a favor. I said no thank you, as I wanted the extra PQM, then he jumped to a $600 offer which I accepted. I think there must have been a cancellation after I SDC'd which pushed more FC pax onto me SFO-SEA flight.
After he was done(and I could access my reservation on the APP) I walked around the corner and looked for my next SDC. Imagine my surprise when I saw he had rebooked me into "F". That is like handing a blank check to a SDC addict
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May 7, 2018, 8:24 pm
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Flying ORD-GRR today on UA4042 (ERJ-145), scheduled to depart at 5:50 PM. At boarding they asked for a volunteer to give up their seat in exchange for a $1,000 voucher. I nearly sprinted to the podium, got the ETC, a $20 meal voucher and a confirmed seat on the 9:34 PM flight.
May 13, 2018, 9:11 am
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Tkk-pni $1000 etc
13MAY oversold by 1 after everyone had boarded (I was a little apprehensive in light of Daogate). Bidding started at $1000 and someone volunteered almost immediately I think the next flight is 15MAY.
I think the next flight is 15MAY.
May 13, 2018, 11:52 am
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I assume that's $1000 plus a hotel? I'm surprised they oversell that route, or maybe it was a mistake?
May 14, 2018, 1:22 pm
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Mistake is certainly possible. They don't scan your BP at any island and they don't even check it at some (including TKK). But they do process upgrades/nonrevs and print manifests.
May 14, 2018, 1:54 pm
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No mention of hotel. As you may know, most traffic is local on the island hopper. I'm assuming she wasn't transiting.
Mistake is certainly possible. They don't scan your BP at any island and they don't even check it at some (including TKK). But they do process upgrades/nonrevs and print manifests.
Mistake is certainly possible. They don't scan your BP at any island and they don't even check it at some (including TKK). But they do process upgrades/nonrevs and print manifests.
May 16, 2018, 9:18 am
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I have heard about weight restriction on this route in the past... not sure why that would be unless they fuel the plane for several hops and have to be under a certain weight to land safely on these airfields..... thoughts?
May 16, 2018, 12:46 pm
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The last time I was on a weight-restricted 738 (over by 12 pax), it was into DCA when we got delayed into the curfew and apparently landing quietly also requires less weight.
May 16, 2018, 6:21 pm
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How could it have been a weight restriction if all the seats went out full?
May 17, 2018, 9:29 am
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If this was the case, it would have been a true oversale, and weight wouldn't have had a bearing in this specific instance. I cannot see the seat map for a flight 4 days ago, so I just don't know.
May 17, 2018, 12:44 pm
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The OP said the flight "was oversold by one after everyone had boarded" and he was "a little apprehensive in light of Daogate," so I took that to mean all seats were occupied.
May 17, 2018, 1:26 pm
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...SO=TKK&FSD=PNI
May 17, 2018, 1:37 pm
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Looks like Y was full but F appears to have had three open seats. Either use cablepick tool or just do manual URL (pasted below) to get flight status page and see seat map.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...SO=TKK&FSD=PNI
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...SO=TKK&FSD=PNI