Jan 1, 2017, 3:18 pm
Consolidated "Delayed/Cancelled" International Flights (2017)
Sep 16, 2017, 8:24 am
#1021
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I was on UA990 SFO-CDG 789 departing SFO on 9/15/17 which diverted to EWR for a passenger with a medical issue. Flight crew was unable to continue as I believe they were going to time out, so flight will continue on from EWR as UA2745 at 7:45PM on 9/16. I already recieved a compensation offer via e-mail by the time I hit my hotel.
Sep 16, 2017, 8:35 am
#1022
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I was on UA990 SFO-CDG 789 departing SFO on 9/15/17 which diverted to EWR for a passenger with a medical issue. Flight crew was unable to continue as I believe they were going to time out, so flight will continue on from EWR as UA2745 at 7:45PM on 9/16. I already recieved a compensation offer via e-mail by the time I hit my hotel.
Sep 16, 2017, 9:10 am
#1023
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 4,772
UA43 FCO-IAD 9/14 4+ hour delay.
UA54 EWR-CDG 9/15 delayed almost 4 hours, aircraft maintenance.
UA845 ORD-GRU 9/15 canceled.
UA54 EWR-CDG 9/15 delayed almost 4 hours, aircraft maintenance.
UA845 ORD-GRU 9/15 canceled.
Sep 16, 2017, 10:07 am
#1024
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 295
This is what I just don't understand. At a major hub, UA is unable to drum up a crew to permit this flight to proceed with something less than an 18 hour delay. Given the costs of putting up 220 pax at hotels plus compensation, etc. Is it really cost effective for UA to run its crewing so lean?
First is deadheading a crew in from a 787 base. At 12:42am, that just isn't happening. So the alternative is to send the crew to a hotel for their required rest. Yes, they'd be ready to go the next afternoon but not knowing what curfews are for CDG, what operational/ground staff is there, if public transport is still running, etc. passengers probably aren't looking to land there at 2am to then try to figure out a way to where they're going. At that point, they just do what they did which is schedule it as a "normal" redeye departure out of Newark.
Sep 17, 2017, 3:06 pm
#1025
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
On UA944 ORD-FRA. Delayed due to Mx. First plane was swapped out and the new one has intercom issues. Still waiting for any word.
Been brutal lately on my TATLs out of ORD.
Been brutal lately on my TATLs out of ORD.
Sep 17, 2017, 3:27 pm
#1026
Join Date: Oct 2009
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The issue with this one is Newark is not a 787 base for pilots. So they're left with two fairly unattractive options.
First is deadheading a crew in from a 787 base. At 12:42am, that just isn't happening. So the alternative is to send the crew to a hotel for their required rest. Yes, they'd be ready to go the next afternoon but not knowing what curfews are for CDG, what operational/ground staff is there, if public transport is still running, etc. passengers probably aren't looking to land there at 2am to then try to figure out a way to where they're going. At that point, they just do what they did which is schedule it as a "normal" redeye departure out of Newark.
First is deadheading a crew in from a 787 base. At 12:42am, that just isn't happening. So the alternative is to send the crew to a hotel for their required rest. Yes, they'd be ready to go the next afternoon but not knowing what curfews are for CDG, what operational/ground staff is there, if public transport is still running, etc. passengers probably aren't looking to land there at 2am to then try to figure out a way to where they're going. At that point, they just do what they did which is schedule it as a "normal" redeye departure out of Newark.
Sep 17, 2017, 3:36 pm
#1027
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 295
Who knows - could be operational (more ground staff at close to 1am, more hotels available, etc. in Newark). Could be medical urgency (Newark closer than Dulles). Even if they do go to Dulles, the odds of having two 787 pilots sitting on reserve and available to get to the airport for a 2am departure on a couple hour's notice is slim to none.
Sep 17, 2017, 4:19 pm
#1028
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
Update: now at 3 1/2 hour delay they made us get off. Now on the ORD-MUC flight which ironically is using the same aircraft that the FRA one was supposed to use. Guess it's been fixed.
Sep 18, 2017, 2:36 am
#1029
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SU 9/17: UA 865 HAM-EWR: cxld due to a/c maintenance
MO 9/18: UA 865 HAM-EWR: cxld due to a/c mantenance
MO 9/18: UA 865 HAM-EWR: cxld due to a/c mantenance
Sep 18, 2017, 5:09 am
#1030
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yesterday: UA861 IAD-GRU 764 12 hrs late due to aircraft maintenance
therefore today
UA860 GRU-IAD 764 cancelled due to aircraft maintenance
therefore today
UA860 GRU-IAD 764 cancelled due to aircraft maintenance
Sep 21, 2017, 4:26 am
#1031
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yesterday
UA36 EWR-EDI 752 3hrs late due to aircraft maintenance
UA104 GRU-IAH 763 cancelled due to aircraft maintenance
today
UA882 NRT-ORD 772 cancelled due to aircraft maintenance
UA36 EWR-EDI 752 3hrs late due to aircraft maintenance
UA104 GRU-IAH 763 cancelled due to aircraft maintenance
today
UA882 NRT-ORD 772 cancelled due to aircraft maintenance
Sep 23, 2017, 3:41 pm
#1032
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UA 989 IAD-FRA departed 20 mins late due to a stalled ground support vehicle behind the aircraft which prevented pushback. Website says "flight delayed due to a/c maintenance."
They are creative in their excuses, I'll grant them that.
They are creative in their excuses, I'll grant them that.
Sep 23, 2017, 4:05 pm
#1033
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In fairness, the flight status page has a relatively limited number of reasons it can give.
Sep 23, 2017, 6:25 pm
#1034
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Sep 23, 2017, 6:34 pm
#1035
Join Date: Apr 2009
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