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The Fleet Status site is:
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/

At the site, you can find information about the interior features, livery, etc., for every plane in United's fleet.

United Airlines Equipment (Aircraft) Codes (via JOSECONLSCREW28)- code refers to type and configuration but not IFE:

sCO
73A - B737-700 (12/40/66 config)
73Z - B737-700 Guam Configuration
73G - B737-700 Slimline (12/36/78 config)
73Y - B737-800 Slimline Config
73U - B737-800 Guam Configuration
73F - B737-800 (16/48/90 config with SFP)
73Q - B737-800 Slimline with SFP
73C - B737-900 Slimline (20/42/117 config)
73L - B737-900ER Slimline Config
75B - B757-200 Int'l Config
75A - B757-300 (24/57/132 config)
75E - B757-300 Slimline
76P - B767-400ER
78V - B787-8
78Z - B787-9
77Y - B777-200ER ("Version 2")

sUA
19S - A319 version 1
19C - A319 version 2 (ex-CZ frames)
20S - A320 version 1
20C - A320 version 2 (ex-CZ frames)
37K - B737-900ER (tail # 3801-3894)
75K - B757-200 ("ps")
76N - B767-300ER 3-cabin
76C - B767-300ER 2-cabin non-Polaris
76A - B767-300ER Polaris
77G - B777-200 Domestic (Versions 3 & 4)
77J - B777-200ER 3-cabin (27xx Tail#'s) ("Version 1")
77Q - B777-200ER 3-cabin (20xx & 28xx Tail #s) ("Version 1")
77T - B777-300ER Polaris
78U - B787-9 AC# 968-972

Here's what each of the facilities do historically (thanks Bunky):
HKG, heavy widebody maint and reconf (also heavy GUM 737 maint)
LCQ, All Airbus heavy and some medium heavy maint, Airbus mods
DLH, Airbus maintenance
SFO, Airbus D checks, heavy 772 maint, other maint.
IAH, light maint, slimlines on 73G
MIA, 753 ISP, 763 main/WiFi, some 757 maint,
MCN, 737 maint, slimlines, has done some 763 WiFi and maint
CWF, VCV, AMA, paint
XMN, 772 and 744 maintenance
PVG, 788 modifications/WiFi
MCO, maintenance, has done mods in past.
SEA, 77W, 739 new delivery induction, some 789s as well
DEN, 789 new delivery induction
HOU, 737 heavier maintenance, slimline seats
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Old Dec 29, 2017, 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by findark
still can't decide whether they have time to wait for a 797 or need another solution (probably the latter).
The 797 isn't even official yet and too far into the future. UA is in a pickle with the 757-222 and 763 fleets. I expect that the NGS upgrade will happen. As for the speculation about Boeing restarting passenger 763 production it sounds unlikely. United also won't be able to source 35 newer 763s on the secondhand market to bridge the gap until the 797 is flying. Perhaps they'll be forced to take more 787s or literarally fly the wings off the old birds.
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 9:05 am
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From another source:
757-300 seat map with slimline seats
https://twitter.com/LAflyr/status/94645 ... 02112?s=09
- 3 rows in the overwing exit area
- removal of a galley at 2R
- removal of lav at 3L
- removal of closet at 4R
NOTE: That configuration puts Y at 1 lav per 70 pax, not counting the possibility that F would poxxibly share the forward Y lav. Only UA aircraft with higher ratio is 738 at 1 to 75. Most domestic Y ratios in the 1-54 to 1-69 range. Most internationals in the 1-40 to 1-50 range.

763:
N646UA sked to enter HKG 2799/31Dec for 2 class Polaris and winglets - maybe N656UA will exit HKG soon (there since 11/14/17)

772:
N210UA exited XMN 2789/30Dec
N219UA exited XMN 2790/30Dec

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Old Dec 30, 2017, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by Bunky
....763:
N646UA sked to enter HKG 2799/31Dec for 2 class Polaris and winglets - maybe N656UA will exit HKG soon (there since 11/4/17)...
Is that the expected timeframe for a conversion - almost 2 months?
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 12:05 pm
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UA Fleet Summary as at Dec 30, 2017

In 2017:
Entire fleet of 744s retired (last 20 exited in 2017)
12x 77Ws delivered (14 total - all with Polaris seats)
3x 789s delivered (brings total to 21)
752 scimitar program almost completed
73G slimline and new F cabin well underway
738 slimline and scimitar program almost complete
739 slimline program completed (1 unit still without scimitars)
4x new 738s delivered
2x used A320s delivered
6x used A319s delivered

34 50-seaters were removed from service (5 CR2s, 24 ER4s, 5 Q300s)
40 50-seaters were added to UAX service (all CR2s)
9 37-seaters were removed from service (2 E35s and 7 Q200s)
Entire fleet of Q300s were removed from service
Air Wisconsin began UAX service with fleet of CR2s
35 76-seat E175s were delivered.
14 CR7s removed from service


Jan 2018 United Fleet & 2018 Outlook:

A319 fleet: 67 total - all have new F seats, anticipate more used frames from China Southern in 2018

A320 fleet: 99 total - all have new F seats, no changes expected although more used frames are possible

73G fleet: 40 total (4 in Guam service) - all have scimitars, slimline program underway and new First seats being installed, should be finished in 2018

738 fleet: 141 total (7 in Guam service) - all have scimitars, only 6 more until slimline mod program is complete

739 fleet: 148 total - one without scimitars, all have slimlines, no other changes anticipated

73M fleet: first six 7M9 aircraft to enter fleet in 2018.

752 fleet: 56 total - scimitars on 39 of 41 16J frames, other 2 in 2018. 15 28J units will not get scimitars

753 fleet: 21 total - to get slimlines and new F seats in 2018, first frame in mod now

763 fleet: 35 total - 21 2-class will stay as is, 3 have Polaris, remaining 11 3-class frames to get Polaris in 2018

764 fleet: 16 total - crew rest modification in 2018, no other changes anticipated

772 fleet: 19 total - no changes anticipated

77E fleet: 55 total - 33x 3-class units to begin Polaris modification in 2018, remaining 22 2-class units to follow with Polaris modification

77W fleet: 14 total - all have Polaris seats, 4 more deliveries in 2018

788 fleet: 12 total - no changes anticipated

789 fleet: 21 total - 4 more deliveries in 2018, no other changes anticipated

78J fleet: first deliveries in late 2018 with Polaris seats installed (possibly up to 4 in service by year end)

CRJ-200 fleet: 104 Total (31 Air Wisconsin, 73 Skywest) plus 7 floaters - Air Wisconsin will add to their fleet in 2018, Skywest anticipate some reduction in frames

CRJ-700 fleet: 65 total (20 Skywest, 20 Mesa, 25 GoJet) - anticipate a few more will leave the fleet this year

E170 fleet: 38 total + 1 floater (all Republic) - no changes anticipated

E175 fleet: 152 total (65 Skywest, 59 Mesa, 28 Republic) - last frame delivered and will enter service with Mesa in early 2018, this completes scope limit of 153

ERJ-145 fleet: 170 total (109 ExpressJet, 38 TransStates, 23 CommutAir) - plans in flux, CommutAir and/or ExpressJet may receive more in 2018, some ExpressJet frames scheduled to come off contract

ERJ-135 fleet: 3 total (all ExpressJet) - likely elimination of type in 2018

Q200 fleet: 9 total (all Commutair) - elimination of type in early 2018

ATR42 fleet: 3 total (all Cape Air) - no changes anticipated

** note some of these fleet numbers differ from the UA fleet plan because I have included all frames where UA does not include pro-rate contract planes


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Old Dec 30, 2017, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Is that the expected timeframe for a conversion - almost 2 months?
I'd expect a little longer than that, more like 2.5-3.5 months. The quickest so far has been N649UA, which was out of service for just under 3 months. With 2-3 in mods at one time, the 3-class 763s will be done in 2018 at this rate.
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by minnyfly
I'd expect a little longer than that, more like 2.5-3.5 months. The quickest so far has been N649UA, which was out of service for just under 3 months. With 2-3 in mods at one time, the 3-class 763s will be done in 2018 at this rate.
The work is slow but most of that is attributable to things other than the Polaris install. The 763s were neglected over the years and are in a pretty bad state of repair. The work that coincides with the interior retrofit includes a number of other fixes as well.

“First, we will take advantage of the lengthy modification period (up to three months per aircraft) to schedule and perform a number of safety and reliability improvements, some mandated by airworthiness directives and others identified by Reliability Engineering as having the greatest reliability return on investment,” says the airline, noting that United tech services VP John Wiitala indicated the overhaul is the most “extensive review of its kind we’ve ever conducted on a subfleet”.

“The new interiors – including seats, entertainment systems, bins, panels, galleys and crew-rest areas – will inherently be more reliable than the aging systems and fixtures on the existing fleet. Current interior components and systems account for the majority of our short delays on 767-300s, so putting in a new cabin nose to tail should drive down those delays considerably,” says Wiitala. The full fleet retrofit will take more than two years to complete.
Alas, the efforts are still running behind schedule. The work was supposed to take about two years starting in Summer 2015. It will now take more than three. The company will also need to accelerate the work through the winter, extend the retrofit window or cull the summer schedule to meet the new target date. None of those are great options.
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 9:03 am
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Thank you UAinAUS for this excellent post and for all your work. I enjoy keeping up with this thread.
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 11:20 am
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Good on ya, UAinAUS! What is 78J?
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by kirkwoodj
Good on ya, UAinAUS! What is 78J?
787-10. Same as A350-1000, which is referred to as A350J.
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37


787-10. Same as A350-1000, which is referred to as A350J.
That’s what I figured, but thought they ditched the 787-10 order...
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by kirkwoodj


That’s what I figured, but thought they ditched the 787-10 order...
They have done several things...

They pushed back the A350 orders to 2022-2027: UA to convert A35J orders to A359; to order an additional 10 A359s
They ordered more 767's short term to wait for a MOM replacement: United to buy more NEW 763/4? [Rumor]

As far as 787, I am pretty sure there are just finishing up their initial order
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Hipplewm
They ordered more 767's short term to wait for a MOM replacement: United to buy more NEW 763/4? [Rumor]
There is not an order here because there is nothing to buy. Boeing officially is not selling the 767 today. Rumor is that the line might reopen to accommodate a bridge order to the NMA/797 that also doesn't exist yet and may never really be developed.

The first 787-10 is scheduled to be delivered in 2018, along with two 787-9s and four 777-300ERs.
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