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Old Jan 9, 2016, 5:58 pm
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This thread is for general RPU usage questions. ---- Previous Thread was Specific GPU and RPU usage questions thread

Questions like "will my upgrade clear" are better placed in
[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight [2016]
How often do your RPUs clear?

General comments on utility / value are better placed in
My new United Regional Premier Upgrade (RPU) strategy

Regional Premier® Upgrades (RPUs) are one-way, one-cabin, space available confirmable upgrades as early as the time of ticketing on eligible UA/UX and Copa Airlines-operated flights. They can be used on any fare and any flight that is also CPU eligible and on PS flights. This includes some Oceania and some COPA South America flights. They are generally not usable on flights outside of North America -- see upgrade region chart for details.

PS and non-west coast Hawaii flights are considered one of the better uses of RPUs since those flights are not CPU eligible and since elites are subject to copays on mileage upgrades.

RPUs are earned by elites -- (Re-)qualifying for Premier Platinum earns 2 RPU for the rest of the year, all of the next year and then thru 31 January of the following year. Re-)qualifying for Premier 1K earns 2 more RPUs and you can then earn 2 more RPUs for each additional 25K PQMs.
Unlike GPUs, UA does not offer an extension of unused and about to expire RPUs.

2MM, assuming they did not otherwise qualify for Platinum in the prior year, will have 2 RPUs deposited into their account around mid-January. 3MM+, assuming they did not otherwise qualify for 1K in the prior year, will have 2 RPUs and 6 GPUs deposited into their account around mid-January.

RPUs can be used for other individuals / friends / family but the upgrade priority is based on the status of the flyer, not the earning elite.

RPUs require PZ space (formerly R) to clear (except for GS RPUs which clear into PN space). For a given flight, RPU /GPU or Mileage+Copay have the same waitlist priority -- what does matter is passenger Status then Fare Class and then the time of the request. For more on waitlisting, see Understanding the United Upgrade List Comprehensively

A Regional Premier Upgrade will be considered used if any segment of an itinerary is upgraded and flown - no exception. Miles and GPUs have an exception if the waitlisted International BF/GF (now called Polaris business / first) does not clear, the miles/GPU will be returned -- this does not apply to RPUs. Recent changes in the rules make it clear there is no exception for PS routes.

Note on most RPU routes, a "connection" needs to be under 4 hours (longer only if it is the next scheduled flight) or a single RPU will not apply. This standard stopover definition for North American flights.

A single RPU (or GPU or Miles+copay) can not be applied to flights on different PNRs (or for different carriers even on the same PNR).
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Old Oct 11, 2016, 10:37 pm
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First time seeing this and wanted to get some opinions:

On the UA website, J3 JN3 ... are available for an upcoming PS flight. However, on the 'mobile United app' it says "Capacity 16, Booked 10". Why is there a discrepancy? Shouldn't those two metrics match? And I know seat maps are not an indicator of flight load, but there are 6 'non-chosen / empty' business class seats.

Thoughts?
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Old Oct 11, 2016, 10:51 pm
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Originally Posted by laxmillenial
First time seeing this and wanted to get some opinions:

On the UA website, J3 JN3 ... are available for an upcoming PS flight. However, on the 'mobile United app' it says "Capacity 16, Booked 10". Why is there a discrepancy? Shouldn't those two metrics match? And I know seat maps are not an indicator of flight load, but there are 6 'non-chosen / empty' business class seats.

Thoughts?
Economy is oversold by 3 seats, so 3 J seats are "blocked" (removed) for the economy oversold.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...rade-list.html
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Old Oct 11, 2016, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Economy is oversold by 3 seats, so 3 J seats are "blocked" (removed) for the economy oversold.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...rade-list.html
Not sure this is the case? Showing the full fare classes available, it seems like there are economy seats for sale. If it was oversold, wouldn't they not be selling economy fares?

J3 JN3 C3 D3 Z3 ZN3 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9

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Old Oct 12, 2016, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by laxmillenial
Not sure this is the case? Showing the full fare classes available, it seems like there are economy seats for sale. If it was oversold, wouldn't they not be selling economy fares?

J3 JN3 C3 D3 Z3 ZN3 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9
And the mobile app will print (+X blocked) for the number of seats blocked from inventory. That's strange.
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Old Oct 12, 2016, 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by findark
And the mobile app will print (+X blocked) for the number of seats blocked from inventory. That's strange.
It is. No explanation on the very limited info OP has provided.

If it's a 752 int'l on a TATL, they do block two seats for pilot rest. But that doesn't explain the gap.

Originally Posted by laxmillenial
If it was oversold, wouldn't they not be selling economy fares?
They will typically still sell a few economy fares even if Y is booked full - that's why they block seats in J - but the buckets wouldn't look like that.
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Old Oct 12, 2016, 10:08 am
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Also I'm pretty sure they don't oversell Y into J on p.s. - at least sample size a few flights around one I'm on. It's gone Y0 without any blocked inventory in the J cabin.

Might have something to do with the fact that full Y is still less than a lot of the J tickets.
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Old Nov 6, 2016, 5:43 pm
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Lightbulb Advice for first time UA MP Plat's & RPUs?

Hi everyone

New (pleasant) changes in job meant more conferences and business travel, and unexpectedly made it to UA MP Platinum status after the final UA flight for the calendar year & just $200 for Premier accelerator. I've been Gold and Silver in the past, but from the Forum, it sounds like the main changes are the Group 1 Boarding and the Regional Premier Upgrades. My travel habits are usually flying solo or with minimal luggage, so increased checked bags and E+ seats for others are nice but unlikely to be used.

So big question: how to best use RPUs? The value seems better for US Coast-to-Coast flights like LAX-(fill in the blank), but I also worry it will be less likely to get any upgrades due to the popularity of hub-hub flights? With hub-nonhub coastal flights, it's likely to CPU at Plat status, right?

Some insight and shared experiences would be nice. Safe travels.

-Todd
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Old Nov 6, 2016, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by drtoddchang
So big question: how to best use RPUs? The value seems better for US Coast-to-Coast flights like LAX-(fill in the blank), but I also worry it will be less likely to get any upgrades due to the popularity of hub-hub flights?
It's tough, but using Expert Mode, you can search for flights with R/RN availability. First and last flights of the day are typically the best options if those fit your schedule. Otherwise, just keep trying and eventually you'll get one.

Originally Posted by drtoddchang
With hub-nonhub coastal flights, it's likely to CPU at Plat status, right?
I wouldn't say CPU is ever "likely".
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Old Nov 6, 2016, 6:05 pm
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Expert Mode and ExpertFlyer subscription are critical to let you find R space.

Especially for the TCONs, if you can't confirm at booking you probably won't get it.
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Old Nov 6, 2016, 6:29 pm
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I am very interested in this thread! Subscribed!

I'll be hitting Pt (for the 1st time) Dec 18th.
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Old Nov 6, 2016, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by popoemt
I am very interested in this thread! Subscribed!

I'll be hitting Pt (for the 1st time) Dec 18th.
Congrats, popoemt! Always nice to see your name on the upgrade list move to the left.
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Old Nov 6, 2016, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by drtoddchang
Congrats, popoemt! Always nice to see your name on the upgrade list move to the left.
Haha, true, true, I always enjoyed seeing my name #1-3 on the list, knowing all the GS and 1K hadn't checked in yet! Def looking forward to joining the ever growing G1 line.

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Old Nov 6, 2016, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by drtoddchang
So big question: how to best use RPUs? The value seems better for US Coast-to-Coast flights like LAX-(fill in the blank), but I also worry it will be less likely to get any upgrades due to the popularity of hub-hub flights? With hub-nonhub coastal flights, it's likely to CPU at Plat status, right?
Any interest in Hawaii? The holy grail of RPU redemptions is EWR/IAD/IAH<>HNL in a lie-flat seat, though you have to be flexible with your dates in order to find confirmed R space early enough to plan the rest of your trip.
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Old Nov 6, 2016, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by RandomBaritone
Any interest in Hawaii? The holy grail of RPU redemptions is EWR/IAD/IAH<>HNL in a lie-flat seat, though you have to be flexible with your dates in order to find confirmed R space early enough to plan the rest of your trip.
it doesnt help that many of the EWR flights were downgauged 764->763, and that the new HD 77A means a lot more pax are competing for the lie flats up front. i got to experience 10-across last week even though i applied my RPU in june.

my advice: use your upgrade instruments liberally, otherwise you'll end up wasting them.
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Old Nov 6, 2016, 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by drtoddchang

So big question: how to best use RPUs?
I wouldn't overthink this. By and large RPUs have minimal value as they are not typically exchangeable for the more desired upgrades. If you could fly another 25K and get to 1K then you get GPUs which are truly (IMHO) valuable.
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