Jan 6, 2015, 9:07 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
In *A, mileage earning is based on the rules for the operating carrier
There are three key pieces of info needed
1. The operating carrier of the flight segment (how marketed / codeshare do not matter)
2. The fare class of the operating carrier. This can be a problem if purchased as codeshare because the codeshare's fare class is not relevant.
3. Program you are crediting
If crediting to United MileagePlus, see the partner earning tables to determine earnings (both RDMs and PQMs)
There are three key pieces of info needed
1. The operating carrier of the flight segment (how marketed / codeshare do not matter)
2. The fare class of the operating carrier. This can be a problem if purchased as codeshare because the codeshare's fare class is not relevant.
3. Program you are crediting
If crediting to United MileagePlus, see the partner earning tables to determine earnings (both RDMs and PQMs)
How to find the fare class / mapping for codeshare mileage earning before purchasing?
Dec 30, 2014, 8:46 am
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Why would that be the case? A booking class is a booking class, or?
On another note, can the underlying fare class ever translate differently between bookings based on fare rule?
I had two other UA Codeshares operated by LH that showed up as V class earlier this year post no problem so I thought nothing of it when booking a 3rd this year. Now waiting for that last inner-European segment to post as my last miles to get to 100k PQM. Just as long as it doesn't somehow translate to T or L and I'm fine.
On another note, can the underlying fare class ever translate differently between bookings based on fare rule?
I had two other UA Codeshares operated by LH that showed up as V class earlier this year post no problem so I thought nothing of it when booking a 3rd this year. Now waiting for that last inner-European segment to post as my last miles to get to 100k PQM. Just as long as it doesn't somehow translate to T or L and I'm fine.
Jan 6, 2015, 5:30 pm
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I don't trust Orbitz with this - the cancellation rules aren't rock solid. Any other suggestions or can someone find me the cheapest fully UA qualifying run NYC-JNB leaving 4/1 returning 4/12, or leaving 4/2 returning 4/13? Any combination of SA, LX, or LH...
Thank you!!!
Thank you!!!
Last edited by pduck01; Jan 6, 2015 at 5:43 pm
Jan 6, 2015, 6:57 pm
#33
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Asking for a friend (really): SAA fare class switcharoo
A colleague of mine feels shorted of ~2,700 PQM.
For a trip to Joburg, he bought bought tickets on United.com that had 2 legs on South Africa Airways and 1 on Lufthansa. He looked at partner fare classes ahead of time to verify mileage credit and bought S and Q fares.
On one SAA leg the S fare on the receipt became a W fare on the ticket. This meant he got a 50% PQM on that leg instead of 100%. The rest stayed the same.
He says he was told the fare classes he bought were United fare classes, which then get translated into the partner fare classes.
Does this sound right? If so, how was he supposed to know how they would be "translated"? If not, what should he do?
For a trip to Joburg, he bought bought tickets on United.com that had 2 legs on South Africa Airways and 1 on Lufthansa. He looked at partner fare classes ahead of time to verify mileage credit and bought S and Q fares.
On one SAA leg the S fare on the receipt became a W fare on the ticket. This meant he got a 50% PQM on that leg instead of 100%. The rest stayed the same.
He says he was told the fare classes he bought were United fare classes, which then get translated into the partner fare classes.
Does this sound right? If so, how was he supposed to know how they would be "translated"? If not, what should he do?
Jan 6, 2015, 7:02 pm
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The award miles accrued on codeshare flights are based on the operating carrier and their equivalent fare class. This could result in differences between the purchased booking class and the booking class flown, which determines the number of base and Premier qualifying miles and Premier qualifying segments earned.
Jan 6, 2015, 7:11 pm
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Yes, it's published, read the fare next time.
Code:
7 HOUJNB 04FEB15 UA USD 850.00 SLLNC1N STAY-SU/12MBK-S
FARE CLS EXPLANATION BOOK CODES
-------- ---------------------- ----------
SLLNC1N LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON INSTANT PURCHASE S
SLLNC1N NONREFUNDABLE FARES
SLLNC1N FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS FOR CARRIER: SA
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SA
VIA SA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS
2000-2999
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SA
VIA SA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS
7952-7989
VIA SA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS
7650-7656
VIA SA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS
7231-7232
IF VIA UA ALL ECONOMY CABIN
VIA SA W REQUIRED WHEN AVAILABLE WITHIN SOUTH
AFRICA
IF VIA UA ALL ECONOMY CABIN
VIA SA S REQUIRED WITHIN SOUTH AFRICA
IF VIA UA ALL ECONOMY CABIN
VIA SA L REQUIRED WHEN AVAILABLE WITHIN AREA 2
IF VIA UA ALL ECONOMY CABIN
VIA SA Q REQUIRED WITHIN AREA 2
VIA SA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS
7400-7499
VIA SA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS
8861-8869
VIA SA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS
8651-8659
Jan 23, 2015, 4:25 pm
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Booking class on codeshare
Hello,
Before booking a flight, I have a question about earning miles...
The flight is SWISS codeshare Operated by Thai airways (both SA members). The booking class is "E", but I don't know the actual booking class on Thai... Swiss E booking class is eligible for miles in MP but Thai E is not.
How can I know if I will get miles or not?
Thanks!
Before booking a flight, I have a question about earning miles...
The flight is SWISS codeshare Operated by Thai airways (both SA members). The booking class is "E", but I don't know the actual booking class on Thai... Swiss E booking class is eligible for miles in MP but Thai E is not.
How can I know if I will get miles or not?
Thanks!
Jan 23, 2015, 4:35 pm
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Hello,
Before booking a flight, I have a question about earning miles...
The flight is SWISS codeshare Operated by Thai airways (both SA members). The booking class is "E", but I don't know the actual booking class on Thai... Swiss E booking class is eligible for miles in MP but Thai E is not.
How can I know if I will get miles or not?
Thanks!
Before booking a flight, I have a question about earning miles...
The flight is SWISS codeshare Operated by Thai airways (both SA members). The booking class is "E", but I don't know the actual booking class on Thai... Swiss E booking class is eligible for miles in MP but Thai E is not.
How can I know if I will get miles or not?
Thanks!
Jan 23, 2015, 4:37 pm
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It's possible that all Thai sees is the SWISS code in their system. If they read it back, that may lead you to believe you'll get credit, when in reality you won't.
Jan 23, 2015, 6:31 pm
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If the mileage accrual matters, then this is just asking for trouble.
As Channa says, it may be difficult or impossible to determine before you purchase the ticket what class it books into on TG.
And you cannot count on UA handling this correctly even if it does book into an earning fare class. They may see the LX "E" and just say E is not an earning fare class on TG. Adding TG into the equation just complicates things further. Good luck getting them to confirm your right to miles.
As Channa says, it may be difficult or impossible to determine before you purchase the ticket what class it books into on TG.
And you cannot count on UA handling this correctly even if it does book into an earning fare class. They may see the LX "E" and just say E is not an earning fare class on TG. Adding TG into the equation just complicates things further. Good luck getting them to confirm your right to miles.
Jan 23, 2015, 6:39 pm
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Rebook without the codeshare.
Usually the only reason to book a codeshare is for some rock-bottom fare that requires it. You can expect that to not earn on airlines that have any non-earning booking classes.
Usually the only reason to book a codeshare is for some rock-bottom fare that requires it. You can expect that to not earn on airlines that have any non-earning booking classes.
Mar 3, 2015, 2:24 am
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Mapping fare class for codeshare flights
Following the "improvements" in MP RDM accrual 
I am planning another TATL flight and wondering how to map fare classes across codeshares.
Is there any logical way to do so ? Or just previous experience ?
In my case looking at an LH flight (K class) operated by AC....
I am planning another TATL flight and wondering how to map fare classes across codeshares.Is there any logical way to do so ? Or just previous experience ?
In my case looking at an LH flight (K class) operated by AC....
Mar 3, 2015, 7:50 am
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Mar 3, 2015, 9:08 am
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I was assuming it would map to an AC K-class. PQMs also useful - some strange combinations around, such as LX K-class earning 0 PQM but 50% RDM.
Would it be preferable to call the metal or the marketer to check the fare class ? or United ?...
Would it be preferable to call the metal or the marketer to check the fare class ? or United ?...
Mar 3, 2015, 9:27 am
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Metal - as they would see what you will actually get in their system (what class).
Mar 3, 2015, 10:05 am
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Operating carrier, but you also typically need to have the flight booked for them to see. Just calling and asking a hypothetical, "What does LH K map to on AC metal for flight 1234?" is going to result in a quite frustrating experience if I had to bet.