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In *A, mileage earning is based on the rules for the operating carrier
There are three key pieces of info needed
1. The operating carrier of the flight segment (how marketed / codeshare do not matter)
2. The fare class of the operating carrier. This can be a problem if purchased as codeshare because the codeshare's fare class is not relevant.
3. Program you are crediting
If crediting to United MileagePlus, see the partner earning tables to determine earnings (both RDMs and PQMs)
There are three key pieces of info needed
1. The operating carrier of the flight segment (how marketed / codeshare do not matter)
2. The fare class of the operating carrier. This can be a problem if purchased as codeshare because the codeshare's fare class is not relevant.
3. Program you are crediting
If crediting to United MileagePlus, see the partner earning tables to determine earnings (both RDMs and PQMs)
How to find the fare class / mapping for codeshare mileage earning before purchasing?
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I think it should be fine. The grammar is a little stranger than usual, but the plating rules seem to allow the standard set of *A TATL friends:
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OR - TICKETS MUST NOT BE ISSUED ON OS. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY UA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN ANGOLA/SUDAN/ SOUTH SUDAN/VENEZUELA/ZIMBABWE/IRAN. AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. SALES RESTRICTIONS/ SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS OTHER CONDITIONS SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS - THIS FARE IS ONLY VALID IF THE FLIGHTS ARE TAKEN IN THE BOOKED SEQUENCE. OTHERWISE THE FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED BASED ON THE ACTUAL FLIGHT ROUTING.
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I think it should be fine. The grammar is a little stranger than usual, but the plating rules seem to allow the standard set of *A TATL friends:
Code:
OR - TICKETS MUST NOT BE ISSUED ON OS. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY UA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN ANGOLA/SUDAN/ SOUTH SUDAN/VENEZUELA/ZIMBABWE/IRAN. AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. SALES RESTRICTIONS/ SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS OTHER CONDITIONS SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS - THIS FARE IS ONLY VALID IF THE FLIGHTS ARE TAKEN IN THE BOOKED SEQUENCE. OTHERWISE THE FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED BASED ON THE ACTUAL FLIGHT ROUTING.
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My experience with UA codeshares is the fares listed on their site line up with the operating airline (ie a UA codeshare W on NZ earns what an NZ W fare would), does this line up with what others have experienced?
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Today I was rebooked on an Air New Zealand flight, UA codeshare W fare. I'm pretty sure UA W fares are upgradeable but I'm not sure if it's just with miles, or copay or if it's open to non-mileageplus folks. Lastly because it's a codeshare I'm never sure of anything.
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Many times yes BUT there are numerous deviations -- especially for airlines with Premium Economy. However there are other such "A" fares with AC, AC has it as discount economy, UA uses it for discount F., R is another one to watch for and P
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It does indicate W now on the "manage my booking" area on the NZ site.
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I thought there might be a bigger thread for codeshare questions, but I didn't come across one so I'll ask it here.
In my past experience the UA website lists their codeshares correctly.
IE: SFO-IAH UA 1696 K
IAH-NRT UA7900 (operated by ANA) K
My experience with the UA site is that K for the NH flight is correct and will credit according to K fare rules operated by ANA. I've used this multiple times and never had any issues (unlike AC's website) and thus I no longer question it.
Today I was rebooked from SEA-LAX-AKL to SEA-IAH-AKL and the IAH-AKL was rebooked into W fare. Great, I can earn some solid miles instead of the L I was originally given. But when picking my seats and conversing with the NZ phone rep she confirmed it was booked into an Air New Zealand W fare, but that the mileage would credit as an L fare which is the original. She said "they've only put W because they had to, to get you on this flight".
...is she right? Again, I've never had an issue with what the website says. I'm gonna fly either way, but I have no idea if I'll earn at the W fare vs the L fare just because of her comment. I could see an FFP trying to do this, "pay out" miles based on the original booking class, the way they do with upgrades, but I can't imagine they'd actually be able to pull it off. This is a ticket bought on United, flying with United and Air New Zealand, but I'll wanna credit the miles to Asiana, so I really don't see how all 3 would pass on the info correctly so that Asiana would "pay out" as L.
Thoughts?
In my past experience the UA website lists their codeshares correctly.
IE: SFO-IAH UA 1696 K
IAH-NRT UA7900 (operated by ANA) K
My experience with the UA site is that K for the NH flight is correct and will credit according to K fare rules operated by ANA. I've used this multiple times and never had any issues (unlike AC's website) and thus I no longer question it.
Today I was rebooked from SEA-LAX-AKL to SEA-IAH-AKL and the IAH-AKL was rebooked into W fare. Great, I can earn some solid miles instead of the L I was originally given. But when picking my seats and conversing with the NZ phone rep she confirmed it was booked into an Air New Zealand W fare, but that the mileage would credit as an L fare which is the original. She said "they've only put W because they had to, to get you on this flight".
...is she right? Again, I've never had an issue with what the website says. I'm gonna fly either way, but I have no idea if I'll earn at the W fare vs the L fare just because of her comment. I could see an FFP trying to do this, "pay out" miles based on the original booking class, the way they do with upgrades, but I can't imagine they'd actually be able to pull it off. This is a ticket bought on United, flying with United and Air New Zealand, but I'll wanna credit the miles to Asiana, so I really don't see how all 3 would pass on the info correctly so that Asiana would "pay out" as L.
Thoughts?
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But when picking my seats and conversing with the NZ phone rep she confirmed it was booked into an Air New Zealand W fare, but that the mileage would credit as an L fare which is the original. She said "they've only put W because they had to, to get you on this flight".
I could see an FFP trying to do this, "pay out" miles based on the original booking class, the way they do with upgrades, but I can't imagine they'd actually be able to pull it off. This is a ticket bought on United, flying with United and Air New Zealand, but I'll wanna credit the miles to Asiana, so I really don't see how all 3 would pass on the info correctly so that Asiana would "pay out" as L.
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I guess we shall see, but fingers crossed I earn the W rate because then I'll get some miles off this ridiculously cheap flight. If not, then no harm no foul the rebooking just got me a slightly more interesting routing.
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Looking further at NZ,
F, P, X are clearly different and S is placed differently between NZ and UA
But is it showing the NZ flight number or the UA codeshare?
F, P, X are clearly different and S is placed differently between NZ and UA
Fair enough, any experience about W? UA has rebooked me into W codeshare on an NZ flight. My previous L fare was gonna be 0% earning (it was such a good deal I bought it anyway) but a W class, if it's NZ W, has a wide range of earning potentials.
It does indicate W now on the "manage my booking" area on the NZ site.
It does indicate W now on the "manage my booking" area on the NZ site.
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It's showing the UA codeshare number.
If it makes a difference I'm trying to earn to OZ, so if it ends up being "credited" as L I'll get 0% but if it ends up getting credited as W I'll get 100% which would be a cool 7500 ish miles, which I could definitely use .
If it makes a difference I'm trying to earn to OZ, so if it ends up being "credited" as L I'll get 0% but if it ends up getting credited as W I'll get 100% which would be a cool 7500 ish miles, which I could definitely use .
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