Originally Posted by wrp96

Hopefully before 4/1/15

Originally Posted by 3Cforme

Counting back 30 days, if we're picking squares I'll take March 2.

Originally Posted by mtndave47

Checked my SEA-PDX-EUG one way booking for mid Sept on UA and it shows an error. So how does the refund process work on canceled itineraries or perhaps they will reroute me thru SFO? Too bad they couldnt pick a day near the current EOS to minimize impact on passengers. So conveinent to connect in PDX or SEA instead of SFO. I guess the BA miles will be handy for AS/QX redemption!

Originally Posted by uastarflyer

Now if they can upguage SMF-SFO that would be nice. I dislike the E120 prop plane immensely.

Originally Posted by LASUA1K

It's a shame this airline is fading fast. They need help asap! LAX-PDX gone. Just amazing. I'm guessing LAX will go down to ORD, SFO, DEN, IAH, EWR and maybe we see JFK get cut also. I wouldn't be suprised. LAX will be like any other city. SEA is getting cut next, LAS is mostly rj, phx is rj. Basically everything is rj except for hub flying. Sad.

Originally Posted by aacharya

The logic that PDX-LAX cuts means JFK-LAX is cut as well is baffling. If only FT could stick to logical conclusions...but I know, we like this drama. I'm willing to bet LAX-JFK sticks around a year from now, and will even give 2:1 odds.

Originally Posted by LarkSFO

I looked at April 22 - 24, 2015 on UA.com and still see the PDX - LAX non stop 2X / day (CR2 and CR7).

Has UA just not removed it from the schedule yet?

Shockingly, I know, I also searched JFK - LAX through the end of schedule and still see UA is offering their 6 Daily Non-Stops with PS service!

Originally Posted by Tanaka07

Quick question:

I have an award itinerary in November:
PDX-SEA UA
SEA-ICN OZ
ICN-HKT OZ

returning in November
MLE-SIN SQ
SIN-TPE BR
TPE-SEA BR
SEA-PDX UA

If PDX-SEA-PDX on UAX is indeed disappearing, will UA purchase separate PDX-SEA-PDX flights for me to catch my award flights to/from SEA? Or will they rebook me:
PDX-SFO-ICN-HKT,MLE-SIN-TPE-SFO-PDX?

Originally Posted by zoegksf

So if the EMB120's are being retired what will happen to PSP, SBA, ACV etc...Isn't even St. George, Skywests hometown served by the 120?

Originally Posted by sfozrhfco

Given that that PDX cuts have not been formally announced why would you expect they have already been removed from the schedule?

Originally Posted by sfozrhfco

6 non-stops is pretty weak considering UA used to be a dominant player in the JFK-LAX market. AA will be offering 12, DL 8, even jetblue will have more than 6 by early next year.

Originally Posted by zoegksf

So if the EMB120's are being retired what will happen to PSP, SBA, ACV etc...Isn't even St. George, Skywests hometown served by the 120?

Originally Posted by LarkSFO

Well, at least acknowledge that AA's 12 flights are on glorified RJ's! (at least in comparison to UA 757's and DL's 76W's on the route). AA actually reduced their daily seats with the move to A321's.

Originally Posted by LarkSFO

Well, at least acknowledge that AA's 12 flights are on glorified RJ's! (at least in comparison to UA 757's and DL's 76W's on the route). AA actually reduced their daily seats with the move to A321's.

Originally Posted by EWR764

I hate seeing routes cut from the network, especially 'cool' ones like the legacy UA PNW operation, but these cuts are a different story. Of course, it might not neatly fit into the anti-UA(CO) narrative on FT, but the truth is the truth.

All of the SkyWest PNW E120 flying is conducted 'at-risk' by OO under a marketing relationship with United. United is not dictating schedules, capacity, or anything else about these services besides slapping a UA code and flight number on these trips. In 2008-2010, United terminated most of the non-SFO UAX contract flying in the PNW, which included the SEA turboprop operation and most of the same at PDX. OO stepped in and elected to continue to offer the service on an at-risk (non-contract) basis, which meant that OO assumed responsibility for the P&L of the service and UA collected only the revenue it contributed to the system once pax were online.

For UA, most of the service was extraneous because virtually all of the connections (aside from the shortest ones) made possible by the OO flying were duplicated via SFO with contracted UAX operations. However, OO stayed in the PDX markets predominantly because there was a small, high-RASM local market which provided incremental feed to UA and PDX/SEA and the E120 was the right airplane. SEA, on the other hand, was more competitive and likely constrained by OO's own contractual relationship with AS.

Now, SkyWest has disclosed the fact that it has a pilot shortage, much like many of the other SJPs. It is also progressively trying to retire the Brasilia fleet. At the same time, it has contractual obligations to AS, DL, UA and AA on the West Coast that it must meet with its existing fleet and pilot roster. The at-risk services are not SkyWest's core business, and if resources need to be devoted to contract ops at the expense of at-risk flying, then that's what will happen.

As for PDX-LAX, at least 15 of UA's SkyWest CR2 ops are pro-rate, so I wouldn't be shocked if that one is at-risk too and has been cut by OO. Still, it's a market UA probably should have a presence in and I am surprised to see it cut.

For those yearning for the days of UA dominance up and down the West Coast, that ship sailed circa 2000 (and had been slowly pulling out of port for about 15 years before that) and has nothing to do with the drawdown of a handful of OO at-risk turboprop routes ex-PDX.

Originally Posted by LarkSFO

Well, at least acknowledge that AA's 12 flights are on glorified RJ's! (at least in comparison to UA 757's and DL's 76W's on the route). AA actually reduced their daily seats with the move to A321's.

Originally Posted by LarkSFO

Well, at least acknowledge that AA's 12 flights are on glorified RJ's! (at least in comparison to UA 757's and DL's 76W's on the route)