Sep 21, 2017, 4:08 pm
The future of the LAX hub?
Jun 5, 2017, 10:54 pm
#301
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IMO, compared to SFO, LAX is practically immune to delays for just about any reason, other then the UA-self afflicted ones caused by lack of gates.
Jun 5, 2017, 11:36 pm
#302
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Shorter flight to LA on single-aisle, slightly longer flight to SIN on wide-body, easier connection (smaller UA terminal complex), less weather problems. If I was still in Houston and had to go to Singapore?...LAX hands down. Wouldn't even debate it. Not sure what you mean regarding corporate contracts. Most of the CO corporate deals stayed w/ United post merger. UA has good number of flights between LAX and IAH. Even 2 red-eyes eastbound frequently, which is 1 more than SFO.
Jun 6, 2017, 3:02 am
#303
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Agree. SIN has surpassed pretty much everybody except NRT as the major business hub in the region. So very lucrative for corporate accounts flying paid C as well as fact & easy connections with more *A options than HKG (UA clearly doesn't want to use its own flights anymore try to compete with all the LCCs in the region).
Adam
Jun 6, 2017, 3:43 am
#304
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If I were originating at IAH, it wouldn't even be a close call picking LAX over SFO. LAX is just a much more reliable airport for connecting. You may wait 15 minutes for a gate, but you're not at constant risk of a miss due to low ceilings cutting the acceptance rate as at SFO.
Jun 6, 2017, 6:43 am
#305
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I think Hong Kong still has a slightly higher GDP than Singapore, and it will for the foreseeable future be a financial center for China. But overall your statement is on point, and United will have the most fights/seats to the most important Asian business hubs like Tokyo, Shanghai and Singapore of any US carrier. Interestingly enough, United has twice started LAX-HKG with no success but I believe that was with 744 aircraft and CX/AA own the route - maybe one of UA's 787 versions will prove to be the lucky third charm?!
Adam
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Last edited by TurboFan779; Jun 6, 2017 at 6:47 am Reason: Was going off topic
Jun 6, 2017, 6:52 am
#306
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not having polaris on the 789 for the forseeable future puts UA at a significant disadvantage compared to CX and AA, who both have F/J and a premium Y on the route. not a good starting position for UA for a route with loads of premium demand.
Sep 21, 2017, 4:01 pm
#307
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LAX-CDG- when did UA drop?
Reading about DL starting LAX-CDG and LAX-AMS. When did UA drop LAX-CDG? I was stunned to see that all 6 flights (on some days) are non-American carriers.
I remember being told by a friend around the 2000 bubble top that UA was telling investors it had 30% market share at LAX and once you hit that point, you could get to 40% easily with higher yields.
I remember being told by a friend around the 2000 bubble top that UA was telling investors it had 30% market share at LAX and once you hit that point, you could get to 40% easily with higher yields.
Sep 21, 2017, 4:48 pm
#308
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Sep 21, 2017, 6:06 pm
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Sep 21, 2017, 6:34 pm
#312
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With the SIN-HKG route going away, it is not going to make sense for 3 777s to sleep overnight in HKG, so I can see the possibility of re-starting LAX-HKG (in spite of the competition) with a 787 provided that (1) UA changes the schedules such that 2 flights from the US leave during the day and the other 2 leave at night, and (2) changing one of the 3 777s to a 787.
Sep 21, 2017, 7:00 pm
#313
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Sep 21, 2017, 10:59 pm
#314
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A 789 certainly could.
Sep 22, 2017, 12:51 am
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Though I think UA has a chance to take some business back from DL at LAX right now. Just arrived on DL in its "new" space in T3. What a disaster. LAX at its worst.