triplefives

Can I toot my own whistle for an accurate new route prediction? 😁

PsiFighter37

You certainly can! Well done

UA_Flyer

Absolutely! Especially bullseyed on LAX-HKG. People seem to forget UA failed on that route repeatedly over the years and how CX/AA has monopolized that route over the years.

lenscap

Mention of United's LAX plans in a Flightglobal article dated yesterday:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...at-lax-437860/

"United Airlines is now the only one of the big three that has not announced multi-billion investment plans for LAX. The Chicago-based carrier operates from 20 gates in terminals 7 and 8 but is in talks with LAWA regarding preferential access to a possible future terminal 9."

"'Today, we don’t have the gates and the facilities – yet – to really grow and compete with Delta, American and Southwest,' said Scott Kirby, president of United, on LAX in March. 'The most important part of that is actually ensuring that terminal 9 becomes a facility that is dedicated to Star Alliance and United.'"

PsiFighter37

I just don't see how a Terminal 9 (the only evidence of which I have seen posted here on FT is at 15+ year-old study) happens anytime soon. Sounds like a 'Waiting for Godot' plan, which isn't good...

DELee

This unfortunately UACO's last mover's response to all other major airlines at LAX. Thanks Jeff.

David

laxmillenial

What about taking the 4(not sure about the number) of gates that UA leases to AA? These are still leased, right? Could UA take those back to 'expand'?

thejaredhuang

What about the T7/T8 makeover? Didn't that cost at least a billion dollars?

FWAAA

Those were in Terminal 6 and while I have not read the documents, I have to assume that UA's sublease of those gates to AA (now assigned to another airline) was for the remaining portion of UA's lease term. UA couldn't reclaim them at UA's option. They're gone.

About $575 million, which at LAX doesn't buy much.

IAH-OIL-TRASH

Singapore is a major oil/gas service hub. Most of the traffic between IAH and SIN will switch to LAX from SFO. In a second.

LDVFlyer

In order to facilitate the Delta move to T2/T3, LAWA bought out United's lease for those 4 gates. They're definitely gone...

... Given what a Terminal 9 with a bridge over Sepulveda would cost, one would have to wonder what United is thinking by investing that kind of money at LAX and not IAD.

Boraxo

Agree. SIN has surpassed pretty much everybody except NRT as the major business hub in the region. So very lucrative for corporate accounts flying paid C as well as fact & easy connections with more *A options than HKG (UA clearly doesn't want to use its own flights anymore try to compete with all the LCCs in the region).

SFO-LAX has become quite delay prone (was it ever not??) so it makes sense for UA to duplicate flights (as it always did with SYD) if the traffic will bear it and then feed into both from the rest of the country. LAX is also a better feeder from Latin America.

More nonsense - more like UA doesn't like the intense competition at LAX which is not a hub-fortress like SFO/IAH/EWR and thus most resources go elsewhere.

Why? I know SFO has too many weather delays, but it's a shorter flight to SIN and it isn't as though LAX is immune to ATC delays. And UA has the corporate contracts (at least until SQ copies the route)

DELee

And whatever investment Delta had made in T5 and T6, they gave to LAWA so they could move to T2/T3 and grow/evolve.

Yes, UACO is currently making its investment in T7/T8 (which has been in development for years - including the JeffCO period) but no better than protecting what it downsized to under his "leadership".

David

TurboFan779

I disagree. I think he is right on point. I fly into LAX every week, and 75% of the time, I end up waiting 30 minutes for a gate to open. There is simply no room to grow. It is not an excuse, trust me.

United has 1.5 terminals, Delta and American have 2 full ones I believe.

Exleftseat

You seem to know alot about the oil trade/business. Why is the SQ flight out of IAH to SIN, albeit with
a stopover, currently at MAN, not an option? Just curious.