Jan 1, 2014, 11:25 am
Last edit by: aacharya
The Fleet Status site is:
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
At the site, you can find information about the interior features, livery, etc., for every plane in United's fleet.
To determine which plane your flight will be on go to mobile.united.com and then click on flight status. Put in the flight number for your flight and just have it use today's date (occasionally it'll say flight not operated on this date in which case just choose one of the other 3 dates it lists). In the address bar you'll see something like this:
mobile.united.com/FlightStatus/FlightDetails?carrierCode=UA&flightNumber=415&flig htDate=9%2F15%2F2015&origin=JFK&destination=SFO
https://mobile.united.com/FlightStatus/FlightDetails?carrierCode=UA&flightNumber=415&flig htDate=9%2F15%2F2015&origin=JFK&destination=SFO
Just change the flight date to match the day of your scheduled flight and then change the origin / destination as necessary. Once you do that look in the details tab under aircraft # and if they have assigned a plane it'll say something like #3506 and the type of plane. Once you know that go to the United Fleet website listed above and cross-reference the four digit number against the "aircraft" column under the appropriate aircraft type.
Keep in mind that things change as they get closer and sometimes either they won't have assigned an aircraft yet or it'll be assigned #0 if it's a few days away and they are anticipating aircraft movement.
You may also check the specific fleet variant of each flight at the United Cargo site under "Schedules & tracking". This data tends to be reliable starting 7 days in advance, but is always subject to change.
United Airlines Equipment (Aircraft) Codes (via JOSECONLSCREW28):
sCO
77Y - B777-200ER (Tail #s 001 - 022)
76P - B767-400ER (Tail #s 051 - 066)
78V - B787-8 (Tail #s 901 - 910, 912, 913)
78Z - B787-9 (Tail #s 950 - 951)
75B - B757-200 AVOD (Tail #s 101 - 141)
75C - B757-300 DirecTV (Tail #s 851 - 859)
75A - B757-300 Overhead IFE (Soon to be streaming content) (Tail #s 860 -871) (Tail #s 860 - 863, 865 have Personal Device Entertainment)
73V - B737-900ER (Tail #s 413 - 478)
73I - B737-900 (Tail #s 401 - 412)
73F - B737-800 DirecTV, Short Field Performance (Tail #s 501 - 518)
73T - B737-800 DirecTV (Tail #s 519 - 531)
73J - B737-800 DirecTV (Tail #s 202 - 226, 228 - 231, 233, 234, 237 - 239, 241 - 245, 247, 248, 250 - 259, 260, 267, 278 - 299.
(Tail #s 260 - 277 will be included here when installed with DirecTV)
73X - B737-800 Mid-Cabin Lav, Overhead IFE (Tail #s 261 - 266, 268 - 277) Will become 73J when installed with DirecTV and mid-cabin lav is removed.
Also known as "midlav" ships.
73M - B737-800 Guam, Overhead IFE (Tail #s 201, 227, 232, 235, 236, 240, 246, 249)
73A - B737-700 Mainland, DirecTV (Tail #s 701 - 719, 721 - 724, 726 - 733, 750)
73P - B737-700 Guam, Overhead IFE (Tail #s 720, 734 - 736)
sUA
19J - A319 (Old Configuration)
19S - A319 (New Configuration) (Slimline Seats)
20B - A320 (Old Configuration 12F/132Y)
20S - A320 (New Configuration 12F/138Y) (Slimline Seats)
20U - A320 (Old Configuration 12F/126Y)
37K - B737-900ER (Tail #s 811 - 848) (Slimline Seats)
47C - B747-400
57Q - B757-200 2-cabin (54xx Tail #s)
57U - B757-200 2-cabin (56xx Tail #s) (Overwater)
67I - B767-300 3-cabin (Tail #s 6441 - 6463) (11 aircraft to become 76E)
73B - B737-900ER (Tail #s 801 - 810)
75J - B757-200 ps (59xx & 53xx Tail #s)
76E - B767-300 2-cabin (Tail #s 6664 - 6677)
77A - B777-200 2-cabin (Tail #s 2510 - 2515) (Non Reconfigured)
77C - B777-200 2-cabin (Tail #s 2368, 2372 & 2379) (Reconfigured)
77D - B777-200 3-cabin (24xx Tail #s)
77H - B777-222 2-cabin (Tail #s 2510 - 2515) (Reconfigured)
77J - B777-200 3-cabin (Tail #s 2704, 2706, 2786, 2791, 2792, 2793, 2795, 2796, 2799)
77Q - B777-200 3-cabin (20xx & 28xx Tail #s)
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
At the site, you can find information about the interior features, livery, etc., for every plane in United's fleet.
To determine which plane your flight will be on go to mobile.united.com and then click on flight status. Put in the flight number for your flight and just have it use today's date (occasionally it'll say flight not operated on this date in which case just choose one of the other 3 dates it lists). In the address bar you'll see something like this:
mobile.united.com/FlightStatus/FlightDetails?carrierCode=UA&flightNumber=415&flig htDate=9%2F15%2F2015&origin=JFK&destination=SFO
https://mobile.united.com/FlightStatus/FlightDetails?carrierCode=UA&flightNumber=415&flig htDate=9%2F15%2F2015&origin=JFK&destination=SFO
Just change the flight date to match the day of your scheduled flight and then change the origin / destination as necessary. Once you do that look in the details tab under aircraft # and if they have assigned a plane it'll say something like #3506 and the type of plane. Once you know that go to the United Fleet website listed above and cross-reference the four digit number against the "aircraft" column under the appropriate aircraft type.
Keep in mind that things change as they get closer and sometimes either they won't have assigned an aircraft yet or it'll be assigned #0 if it's a few days away and they are anticipating aircraft movement.
You may also check the specific fleet variant of each flight at the United Cargo site under "Schedules & tracking". This data tends to be reliable starting 7 days in advance, but is always subject to change.
United Airlines Equipment (Aircraft) Codes (via JOSECONLSCREW28):
sCO
77Y - B777-200ER (Tail #s 001 - 022)
76P - B767-400ER (Tail #s 051 - 066)
78V - B787-8 (Tail #s 901 - 910, 912, 913)
78Z - B787-9 (Tail #s 950 - 951)
75B - B757-200 AVOD (Tail #s 101 - 141)
75C - B757-300 DirecTV (Tail #s 851 - 859)
75A - B757-300 Overhead IFE (Soon to be streaming content) (Tail #s 860 -871) (Tail #s 860 - 863, 865 have Personal Device Entertainment)
73V - B737-900ER (Tail #s 413 - 478)
73I - B737-900 (Tail #s 401 - 412)
73F - B737-800 DirecTV, Short Field Performance (Tail #s 501 - 518)
73T - B737-800 DirecTV (Tail #s 519 - 531)
73J - B737-800 DirecTV (Tail #s 202 - 226, 228 - 231, 233, 234, 237 - 239, 241 - 245, 247, 248, 250 - 259, 260, 267, 278 - 299.
(Tail #s 260 - 277 will be included here when installed with DirecTV)
73X - B737-800 Mid-Cabin Lav, Overhead IFE (Tail #s 261 - 266, 268 - 277) Will become 73J when installed with DirecTV and mid-cabin lav is removed.
Also known as "midlav" ships.
73M - B737-800 Guam, Overhead IFE (Tail #s 201, 227, 232, 235, 236, 240, 246, 249)
73A - B737-700 Mainland, DirecTV (Tail #s 701 - 719, 721 - 724, 726 - 733, 750)
73P - B737-700 Guam, Overhead IFE (Tail #s 720, 734 - 736)
sUA
19J - A319 (Old Configuration)
19S - A319 (New Configuration) (Slimline Seats)
20B - A320 (Old Configuration 12F/132Y)
20S - A320 (New Configuration 12F/138Y) (Slimline Seats)
20U - A320 (Old Configuration 12F/126Y)
37K - B737-900ER (Tail #s 811 - 848) (Slimline Seats)
47C - B747-400
57Q - B757-200 2-cabin (54xx Tail #s)
57U - B757-200 2-cabin (56xx Tail #s) (Overwater)
67I - B767-300 3-cabin (Tail #s 6441 - 6463) (11 aircraft to become 76E)
73B - B737-900ER (Tail #s 801 - 810)
75J - B757-200 ps (59xx & 53xx Tail #s)
76E - B767-300 2-cabin (Tail #s 6664 - 6677)
77A - B777-200 2-cabin (Tail #s 2510 - 2515) (Non Reconfigured)
77C - B777-200 2-cabin (Tail #s 2368, 2372 & 2379) (Reconfigured)
77D - B777-200 3-cabin (24xx Tail #s)
77H - B777-222 2-cabin (Tail #s 2510 - 2515) (Reconfigured)
77J - B777-200 3-cabin (Tail #s 2704, 2706, 2786, 2791, 2792, 2793, 2795, 2796, 2799)
77Q - B777-200 3-cabin (20xx & 28xx Tail #s)
United Airlines Fleet Updates [2014 Thread]
Jan 4, 2014, 12:49 pm
#16
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 498
Flew N493UA (aka A320 #4293)
Wifi signage was present, and the portal claimed it was working when I checked our flight progress. In addition to that information the android app was connected to the internet.
The old seats, LCD screens, and arm rests 'radios' were present, but the video monitors were not used (even for the safety briefing). The music/CH9 was working and in-use, but I found the lack of even a safety video interesting (although not unwelcome).
I didn't know where to go to check for streaming entertainment, but the portal made no mention of any entertainment. In retrospect I should have read the wifi card to see if there were any directions there... but I was much more interested in sleeping.
Wifi signage was present, and the portal claimed it was working when I checked our flight progress. In addition to that information the android app was connected to the internet.
The old seats, LCD screens, and arm rests 'radios' were present, but the video monitors were not used (even for the safety briefing). The music/CH9 was working and in-use, but I found the lack of even a safety video interesting (although not unwelcome).
I didn't know where to go to check for streaming entertainment, but the portal made no mention of any entertainment. In retrospect I should have read the wifi card to see if there were any directions there... but I was much more interested in sleeping.
Jan 4, 2014, 1:06 pm
#17
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Posts: 2,716
Unless someone complains, I will stop posting updates from maintenance movements that involve narrowbodies that do not have any upgrades involved or are headed to a mod base or a fleet removal. I will post the information on the appropriate pages of the United Fleet Website.
A320:
N426UA sked to enter LCQ 6858/5Jan
N442UA still in LCQ - shoudl exit with Bins/Slimline/WiFi
N456UA sked to exit LCQ 6865/4Jan with WiFi
N471UA sked to enter LCQ 6858/3Jan
N477UA sked to enter LCQ 6855/4Jan
N497UA sked to exit LCQ 6857/4Jan with WiFi
744:
N171UA sked to enter PEK 6861/5Jan
N194UA (charter unti) exited PEK 6863/5Jan
A320:
N426UA sked to enter LCQ 6858/5Jan
N442UA still in LCQ - shoudl exit with Bins/Slimline/WiFi
N456UA sked to exit LCQ 6865/4Jan with WiFi
N471UA sked to enter LCQ 6858/3Jan
N477UA sked to enter LCQ 6855/4Jan
N497UA sked to exit LCQ 6857/4Jan with WiFi
744:
N171UA sked to enter PEK 6861/5Jan
N194UA (charter unti) exited PEK 6863/5Jan
Jan 7, 2014, 9:24 pm
#18
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,716
320:
N471UA now sked to enter LCQ 6852/8Jan
*Upgrade N442UA exited LCQ 7952/5Jan with Slimline seats/bins/WiFi
763:
*Upgraded N651UA sked to exit AMA 6851/8Jan with Globe paint
N661UA sked to enter AMA 6851/8Jan for globe paint
772:
N788UA entered PEK 897/6Jan
N782UA entered HKG 895/7Jan
N797UA eixted PEK 850/7Jan
N471UA now sked to enter LCQ 6852/8Jan
*Upgrade N442UA exited LCQ 7952/5Jan with Slimline seats/bins/WiFi
763:
*Upgraded N651UA sked to exit AMA 6851/8Jan with Globe paint
N661UA sked to enter AMA 6851/8Jan for globe paint
772:
N788UA entered PEK 897/6Jan
N782UA entered HKG 895/7Jan
N797UA eixted PEK 850/7Jan
Jan 8, 2014, 9:55 am
#19
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Posts: 5,814
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=2232
DL announce enhancements ... Interesting to see what they are doing with IFE (installing satellite TV):
DL announce enhancements ... Interesting to see what they are doing with IFE (installing satellite TV):
Some of you may have already seen this (we know you are quick to post), but for those of you who haven’t, we wanted you to know about today’s announcement of the next wave of investments in our aircraft. And since many here are domestic flyers, we know that this will be a topic of discussion for many of you. The mod cycles will be starting this quarter and vary by aircraft type, but we should be through the full cycle by the end of 2016.
You can read the full details in our news release, but here is the summary by aircraft type:
757-200 aircraft improvements
Delta’s modifications to 56 of its 757-200 aircraft will include installing in-seat video, satellite TV and access to power for every passenger, along with new galleys, updated LED cabin lighting, new lavatory designs as well as larger capacity overhead bins. Delta will be the first carrier in North America to install the new bin system which will increase passenger carry-on baggage capacity by more than 50 percent.
The 49 modified domestic aircraft will feature a layout of 20 First Class seats, 29 Economy Comfort seats and 150 Economy seats. The remaining seven 757-200 international aircraft will have a configuration of 18 First Class seats, 28 Economy Comfort seats and 151 Economy seats.
737-800 aircraft improvements
The investment in 43 of Delta’s 737-800 aircraft will include the addition of in-seat video with satellite TV, new LED cabin lighting and updated lavatories. The aircraft will be configured with 16 First Class seats, 18 Economy Comfort seats and 126 Economy seats.
When the modifications are complete, Delta’s entire fleet of 73 737-800 aircraft will have in-seat video with access to satellite TV and in-seat power throughout the aircraft.
A319 and A320 aircraft improvements
Delta’s 57 A319 and 69 A320 aircraft will receive complete interior updates including new seats in both First Class and Economy cabins with in-seat power throughout the aircraft. The aircraft will also receive new space-saving galleys, new lavatories, new larger-capacity overhead bins with an average increase of 60 percent more carry-on baggage space, updated LED lighting systems and new cabin interiors. Updates to the A319 fleet will also include the installation of in-seat video with satellite TV.
The A319 will include 12 seats in First Class and the A320 will have 16 First Class seats. All Economy seats on both aircraft types will feature wider seats with an increase from the current 17.2 inches to 18 inches for each seat. Both fleets will have 18 Economy Comfort seats with 34 inches of pitch. Economy seats will each have 31 inches of pitch on both aircraft with 102 seats on the A319 and 126 seats on the A320.
You can read the full details in our news release, but here is the summary by aircraft type:
757-200 aircraft improvements
Delta’s modifications to 56 of its 757-200 aircraft will include installing in-seat video, satellite TV and access to power for every passenger, along with new galleys, updated LED cabin lighting, new lavatory designs as well as larger capacity overhead bins. Delta will be the first carrier in North America to install the new bin system which will increase passenger carry-on baggage capacity by more than 50 percent.
The 49 modified domestic aircraft will feature a layout of 20 First Class seats, 29 Economy Comfort seats and 150 Economy seats. The remaining seven 757-200 international aircraft will have a configuration of 18 First Class seats, 28 Economy Comfort seats and 151 Economy seats.
737-800 aircraft improvements
The investment in 43 of Delta’s 737-800 aircraft will include the addition of in-seat video with satellite TV, new LED cabin lighting and updated lavatories. The aircraft will be configured with 16 First Class seats, 18 Economy Comfort seats and 126 Economy seats.
When the modifications are complete, Delta’s entire fleet of 73 737-800 aircraft will have in-seat video with access to satellite TV and in-seat power throughout the aircraft.
A319 and A320 aircraft improvements
Delta’s 57 A319 and 69 A320 aircraft will receive complete interior updates including new seats in both First Class and Economy cabins with in-seat power throughout the aircraft. The aircraft will also receive new space-saving galleys, new lavatories, new larger-capacity overhead bins with an average increase of 60 percent more carry-on baggage space, updated LED lighting systems and new cabin interiors. Updates to the A319 fleet will also include the installation of in-seat video with satellite TV.
The A319 will include 12 seats in First Class and the A320 will have 16 First Class seats. All Economy seats on both aircraft types will feature wider seats with an increase from the current 17.2 inches to 18 inches for each seat. Both fleets will have 18 Economy Comfort seats with 34 inches of pitch. Economy seats will each have 31 inches of pitch on both aircraft with 102 seats on the A319 and 126 seats on the A320.
Jan 8, 2014, 11:05 am
#20
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And imagine that, DL is actually adding a row of F to the A320 and keeping the third row in the A319.
Jan 8, 2014, 12:32 pm
#21
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Jan 9, 2014, 9:17 pm
#22
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,716
319:
N814UA entered LCQ 6849/9JAN
320:
N407UA entered LCQ 6851/9Jan
N457UA entered LCQ 6853/9Jan
N457UA entered LCQ 6879/9Jan
*UPGRADE N469UA exited LCQ 6880/9Jan with slimline seat/bins/WiFi
*UPGRADE N472UA exited LCQ 7957/8Jan with slimline seats/bins (WiFi not shown)
739:
*UPGRADE N69810 (sUA new delivery sked to exit SEA 6855/10Jan
753: N57852 exited MIA 1746/8Jan - presume ETOPS installed, completing 753 ETOPS program
N814UA entered LCQ 6849/9JAN
320:
N407UA entered LCQ 6851/9Jan
N457UA entered LCQ 6853/9Jan
N457UA entered LCQ 6879/9Jan
*UPGRADE N469UA exited LCQ 6880/9Jan with slimline seat/bins/WiFi
*UPGRADE N472UA exited LCQ 7957/8Jan with slimline seats/bins (WiFi not shown)
739:
*UPGRADE N69810 (sUA new delivery sked to exit SEA 6855/10Jan
753: N57852 exited MIA 1746/8Jan - presume ETOPS installed, completing 753 ETOPS program
Jan 10, 2014, 8:14 am
#23
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: EWR, BDL
Posts: 4,472
First 737-800 has wifi installed.
Aircraft #224 finished with it's installations in MCO. Antenna on top of fuselage is even bigger to accommodate the extra antenna. Also kept the antenna and LiveTV system as well. Now it's waiting it's STC approval. Then installations are going to outside vendors for installations.
Aircraft #224 finished with it's installations in MCO. Antenna on top of fuselage is even bigger to accommodate the extra antenna. Also kept the antenna and LiveTV system as well. Now it's waiting it's STC approval. Then installations are going to outside vendors for installations.
Jan 11, 2014, 10:00 pm
#24
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,716
319:
N815UA sked to enter LCQ 6850/11Jan
320:
N440UA sked to exit LCQ 6857/13Jan with WiFi
N448UA sked to exit LCQ 6851/11Jan with WiFi
N466UA sked to enter LCQ 6856/12Jan
739:
N53441 sked to enter AMA 6849/12Jan, paint
N75432 entered AMA 6859/11Jan, paint
744:
N174UA entered PEK 6876/6Jan
762:
N68159 doing test hops at GYR
Photo shows CRJ700 N509MJ in globe paint now.
N815UA sked to enter LCQ 6850/11Jan
320:
N440UA sked to exit LCQ 6857/13Jan with WiFi
N448UA sked to exit LCQ 6851/11Jan with WiFi
N466UA sked to enter LCQ 6856/12Jan
739:
N53441 sked to enter AMA 6849/12Jan, paint
N75432 entered AMA 6859/11Jan, paint
744:
N174UA entered PEK 6876/6Jan
762:
N68159 doing test hops at GYR
Photo shows CRJ700 N509MJ in globe paint now.
Jan 12, 2014, 11:39 am
#25
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A319 N842UA has new bins and Wifi
Jan 13, 2014, 7:04 pm
#26
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 498
Q400 updates
Was poking around the Q400 fleet trying to get a read on a flight coming up, so I checked out some of the AC marked O/S
N187WQ and N190WQ - Definitely back in service, has had a regular schedule for at least a month, operating out of EWR/IAD/DCA. Seatmap on .bomb shows the version 1 (7F & 10E+) map for both A/C.
N351NG and N354NG - Were ferried from YQA to YYZ in October after being stored at VCV from early 2012 until at least 5/30/13. They're still listed as owned by Wells Fargo under finance/lease for 9L, but I wonder if them being back in Toronto means they're being sold (to someone other than YX).
N187WQ and N190WQ - Definitely back in service, has had a regular schedule for at least a month, operating out of EWR/IAD/DCA. Seatmap on .bomb shows the version 1 (7F & 10E+) map for both A/C.
N351NG and N354NG - Were ferried from YQA to YYZ in October after being stored at VCV from early 2012 until at least 5/30/13. They're still listed as owned by Wells Fargo under finance/lease for 9L, but I wonder if them being back in Toronto means they're being sold (to someone other than YX).
Jan 15, 2014, 7:13 am
#27
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Posts: 2,716
319:
N818UA sked to enter LCQ 6860/13Jan
320:
N460UA entered LCQ 6852/11Jan
N462UA sked to enter LCQ 6858/13Jan - sked exit 6858/16Jan - no upgrades
N463UA sked to enter 6857/15Jan
772:
N783UA sked to exit PEK 989/16Jan
N818UA sked to enter LCQ 6860/13Jan
320:
N460UA entered LCQ 6852/11Jan
N462UA sked to enter LCQ 6858/13Jan - sked exit 6858/16Jan - no upgrades
N463UA sked to enter 6857/15Jan
772:
N783UA sked to exit PEK 989/16Jan
Jan 19, 2014, 8:23 am
#28
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,716
319:
N832UA sked to enter LCQ 6851/19Jan
N842UA entered LCQ 6851/18Jan
320:
N420UA entered LCQ 6853/18Jan
N426UA exited LCQ 6852/18Jan with slimline seats (shows no WiFi)
N468UA entered LCQ 6858/18Jan
N471UA exited LCQ 6854/18Jan with slimline seats (shows no WiFi)
N478UA sked to enter LCQ 6849/19Jan
739:
N37427 entered AMA 6849/18Jan, paint
N75432 exited AMA 6880/17Jan, paint
764:
N59053 entered HKG 6879/17Jan
N76055 exited HKG 6866/18Jan
752:
EmPower reported working in first Class on #5436 (N536UA)
772:
N785UA entered PEK 851/15Jan
N78001 entered HKG 117/17Jan
N27015 exited HKG 116/19Jan
N832UA sked to enter LCQ 6851/19Jan
N842UA entered LCQ 6851/18Jan
320:
N420UA entered LCQ 6853/18Jan
N426UA exited LCQ 6852/18Jan with slimline seats (shows no WiFi)
N468UA entered LCQ 6858/18Jan
N471UA exited LCQ 6854/18Jan with slimline seats (shows no WiFi)
N478UA sked to enter LCQ 6849/19Jan
739:
N37427 entered AMA 6849/18Jan, paint
N75432 exited AMA 6880/17Jan, paint
764:
N59053 entered HKG 6879/17Jan
N76055 exited HKG 6866/18Jan
752:
EmPower reported working in first Class on #5436 (N536UA)
772:
N785UA entered PEK 851/15Jan
N78001 entered HKG 117/17Jan
N27015 exited HKG 116/19Jan
Jan 19, 2014, 9:25 am
#29
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Didn't it used to be 1 FA for every door?? I know that's still the rules for much of Europe & definitely the CAB rules in the UAE. Seems much safer to me in an emergency to have someone trained PER emergency exit. I suppose over an expensive meal someone from the airline lobby showed someone from the FAA why this was not necessary
**kind of like for YEARS why it was mandatory in case if a crash to have window shades open for takeoff & landings until airlines realized they could save money on air conditioning at the gate by having them closed. Funny how all of a sudden the FAA realized it really wasn't a safety issue
**kind of like for YEARS why it was mandatory in case if a crash to have window shades open for takeoff & landings until airlines realized they could save money on air conditioning at the gate by having them closed. Funny how all of a sudden the FAA realized it really wasn't a safety issue
Jan 19, 2014, 10:14 am
#30
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Didn't it used to be 1 FA for every door?? I know that's still the rules for much of Europe & definitely the CAB rules in the UAE. Seems much safer to me in an emergency to have someone trained PER emergency exit. I suppose over an expensive meal someone from the airline lobby showed someone from the FAA why this was not necessary
**kind of like for YEARS why it was mandatory in case if a crash to have window shades open for takeoff & landings until airlines realized they could save money on air conditioning at the gate by having them closed. Funny how all of a sudden the FAA realized it really wasn't a safety issue
**kind of like for YEARS why it was mandatory in case if a crash to have window shades open for takeoff & landings until airlines realized they could save money on air conditioning at the gate by having them closed. Funny how all of a sudden the FAA realized it really wasn't a safety issue
The per passenger/seat rule does make sense in the sense that it's probably better to have extra doors to handle the case of some being blocked (I don't know that this is the rule on those) but you just need a certain number of FAs to evacuate the plane from the certain number of doors that they open or tell you to open. This last bit is juts my thinking and does not represent actual FAA rationalization.