While United Removes Information about Frequent Flyers for Flight Attendents ...
#46
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Then you must've not looked hard enough because the sUA side has flown the YVR - IAH flights before with A319/A320 aircraft. In fact the other day UA868 did YVR - IAH on an A319 tail 4024.
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I'm just thrilled if they speak to me by name in F or Y. On UA, I've been acknowledged by name about 20% of the time in F and never in Y. On LH it's about 80% in Y. Pretty impressive!
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I have a few flights recently where a passenger had insisted that we were a United crew when in fact it was all HTA crew.
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Always possible, that's why I asked, and didn't just shout that you were wrong. Every time I have taken that flight it seems to be a 737. I looked over the next few days also to see what was running it, and it was the 737 for all the days I could see.
I have a few flights recently where a passenger had insisted that we were a United crew when in fact it was all HTA crew.
I have a few flights recently where a passenger had insisted that we were a United crew when in fact it was all HTA crew.
#51
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As a 1K who has been asked about 20 times this year if I want the Chicken Cacciatore or the Spinach Pasta with Cream Sauce between the West Coast and Hawaii, I do not want all passengers treated equally. Most people on that flight might make one or two round-trips a year to Hawaii (if that), so they can suffer the occasional leftover dish. As long as UA caters a limited selection of First food, frequent flyers should get their choice.
I haven't seen the short rib in 2 or 3 months!!!! (obviously an aside comment...)
There's no rule against treating all passengers well and recognizing your frequent flyers. It can be done.
I haven't seen the short rib in 2 or 3 months!!!! (obviously an aside comment...)
There's no rule against treating all passengers well and recognizing your frequent flyers. It can be done.
That said, for myself, I find it rather infuriating whenever I am asked for my meal choice prior to others, except when it is done in an arbitrary way such as by seating order. When one has resources (or in this case status), I believe, it is important to work to minimize inequities. Likewise, I believe that passengers should always be boarded by row/seat or check-in time, but never by status. In my mind, the point of FF programs is to be provided with free travel not for (pseudo) perks which publicly differentiate us from one another.
Others may have different opinions.
#52
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As a 1K who has been asked about 20 times this year if I want the Chicken Cacciatore or the Spinach Pasta with Cream Sauce between the West Coast and Hawaii, I do not want all passengers treated equally. Most people on that flight might make one or two round-trips a year to Hawaii (if that), so they can suffer the occasional leftover dish. As long as UA caters a limited selection of First food, frequent flyers should get their choice.
I haven't seen the short rib in 2 or 3 months!!!! (obviously an aside comment...)
There's no rule against treating all passengers well and recognizing your frequent flyers. It can be done.
I haven't seen the short rib in 2 or 3 months!!!! (obviously an aside comment...)
There's no rule against treating all passengers well and recognizing your frequent flyers. It can be done.
For someone who flies once a year, the chicken vs. pasta choice is moot. I can't imagine fliers getting the same meal constantly, especially those who fly far more than I do.
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I just made elite with United, and my input is as a business owner.
Look at a company like Ritz Carlton. People of all types will stay there, conferences, etc. Rates vary as well, however anyone that stays there is treated like million bucks.
After Hertz failed to deliver my rental car to the hotel, the concierge had an employee drive me in the hotel's Bentley down to the office to pick up the car. They did not care what my rate was, or if I used my Marriott points to get there.
If someone is sitting in First Class, they should be treated well. If you want to get into the whole 1k vs Silver status.... how about this.
Who should get better treatment? A Silver or non elite who paid for an F ticket.... or a 1k who got upgraded from the lowest Y fare?
No matter how someone got to the front of the bus, they should be treated with respect. I will give leeway to the 1k who PAID for the F class fare versus the elite who was upgraded to F off of a Y ticket.
At the same time, as others mentioned, I think frequent flyers and elites who did not get upgraded and are seated in the back of the bus should get something, even as little a a simple Thank you.
Look at a company like Ritz Carlton. People of all types will stay there, conferences, etc. Rates vary as well, however anyone that stays there is treated like million bucks.
After Hertz failed to deliver my rental car to the hotel, the concierge had an employee drive me in the hotel's Bentley down to the office to pick up the car. They did not care what my rate was, or if I used my Marriott points to get there.
If someone is sitting in First Class, they should be treated well. If you want to get into the whole 1k vs Silver status.... how about this.
Who should get better treatment? A Silver or non elite who paid for an F ticket.... or a 1k who got upgraded from the lowest Y fare?
No matter how someone got to the front of the bus, they should be treated with respect. I will give leeway to the 1k who PAID for the F class fare versus the elite who was upgraded to F off of a Y ticket.
At the same time, as others mentioned, I think frequent flyers and elites who did not get upgraded and are seated in the back of the bus should get something, even as little a a simple Thank you.
Rule #1: Don't make any customers feel unimportant or inferior.
Rule #2: board sufficient quantities to avoid running out on the great majority of flights.
Rule #3: treat everyone as an individual - to the 1k thank them for flying regularly with UA; to the non-elite, welcome them to UA and express a wish that they'll enjoy their flight/ choose UA again soon.
Rule #4: NEVER NEVER make someone feel inferior.
Rule #5: If someone is paying full fare C or F, recognise both their contribution to profitability and the fact that (usually) their company thinks they are important - usually important people have influence. Treat them well.
Rule #6: Fire anyone who doesn't follow Rules 1 or 4.
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If I owned a car dealership and I recognized a guy who bought a new car every time he came in, I'd be rushing toward him vs Joe Schmoe who might just be kicking tires. I'm not going to risk the sure thing.
As for chicken vs pasta, the catering between the west coast and Hawaii seems to be the most monotonous. I fly a lot of other routes, and there's a bit more variety on those.
I'll say it again, there's really no reason why all can't be treated well and UA's FFs be recognized at the same time.
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But that was an incredibly sophisticated manifest printing system that SHARES can't handle
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Orwellian - all are equal, but some are more equal than others?
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That said, for myself, I find it rather infuriating whenever I am asked for my meal choice prior to others, except when it is done in an arbitrary way such as by seating order. When one has resources (or in this case status), I believe, it is important to work to minimize inequities. Likewise, I believe that passengers should always be boarded by row/seat or check-in time, but never by status. In my mind, the point of FF programs is to be provided with free travel not for (pseudo) perks which publicly differentiate us from one another.
FF programs are designed to maximize inequities, IMO as they should be - travel more / spend more, get more benefits.
#60
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And meal orders should be front to back when fly west, and back to front fly east.