Last edit by: Bitterroot
Updates to Wiki as of 20 January 2014
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
[Confirmed] SYD going UA 3 Cabin 777 in 2014 [and other 747 route changes]
#301
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I can't understand why ORD-NRT is back to a 744 but not ORD-HKG.
NH will have 2x 77W daily for ORD-NRT starting Septmeber, so it is totally unnecessary for UA to add more capacity for the route.
NH will have 2x 77W daily for ORD-NRT starting Septmeber, so it is totally unnecessary for UA to add more capacity for the route.
#302
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I'm 1 for 4 this year with 747s so I'd rather we had acceptable Y in a 777 than a forlorn hope for C in a 747. What concerns me most, though, is capacity - it has been pretty well full all summr with 2x747.
#303
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SYD
Programs: UA 1MM GS
Posts: 255
[Confirmed] SYD going UA 3 Cabin 777 in 2014
I'm still a little confused by this (but generally happy with the swap) - every SYD flight bar one I've been on this year - about 15 - have been packed. They've asked for volunteers probably 1/4 of those flights and I've even been stuck in E on a Y fare (as a GS). I'm curious to know if this experience reflects their data (especially on thurs/friday) Is this likely to result in an additional flight that some FTers have been hoping for, or are we just likely to see more o us stuck in Y?
#304
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Orygun
Posts: 462
Not sure if anyone has noticed the block time on the 772 ER San Francisco to Sydney is about 40 minutes longer than the 744. Remember that the 744 and 787 are two of the fastest airliners flying right now. The triple sevens are a little bit slower.
#305
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: IAD
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Posts: 292
They're probably just blocking in the time needed to resolve all the complaints from GS and 1Ks not getting upgrades
#306
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When does the HNL-NRT switch back to the 777?
#307
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About the only thing I liked about flying UA to SYD a couple of times a year was that it was always in F. The 747 F class on UA was tolerable, back in the day anyway. Is the new 777 on the SYD routes going to have F, or just the crap "businessfirst"?
And if they use the 777 for SYD, why can't they bring back the LAX-AKL route?
And if they use the 777 for SYD, why can't they bring back the LAX-AKL route?
#308
Join Date: May 2001
Location: YVR
Posts: 3,918
13FEB14 - 29MAR14 (HNL departure).
Breakdown of schedules and changes...
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Breakdown of schedules and changes...
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
#309
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Interesting that they deploy PMUA 772 on this route. Wasn't there a discussion that the range of PMUA 772 cannot make it without reducing the load? I think the initial guess goes towards PMCO 772 was because it has the right range.
#310
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About the only thing I liked about flying UA to SYD a couple of times a year was that it was always in F. The 747 F class on UA was tolerable, back in the day anyway. Is the new 777 on the SYD routes going to have F, or just the crap "businessfirst"?
And if they use the 777 for SYD, why can't they bring back the LAX-AKL route?
And if they use the 777 for SYD, why can't they bring back the LAX-AKL route?
#311
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 2,842
Apparently UA feels that the extra seats are needed.
#312
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Location: Virginia City Highlands
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#313
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UA used to run the 772 LAX-AKL with their de-rated pratts (and also was the longest 1-engine ETOPS diversion. I was always nervous flying that ETOPS 180 route.) Maybe a 787 will eventually show up on the route and tag out to OZ to increase lift. Nah...that would mean UA is restoring service...silly me.
#314
Join Date: Jun 2011
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I am so happy hey are 3 class PMUA 777s. Coach on this plane is so much more comfortable than the 2 class PMCO 777s! It won't remind me of sitting on a park bench all the way to SYD. The 747 in coach had the best seat in terms of space and comfort, but this is better than a 2 class plane to Australia with an outdated BF and coach seat.
#315
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Happy three class cabins to SYD are staying, happy service to MEL is staying, and considering I go through FRA every couple months or so, happy ORD/FRA is going back to 747s.