Aug 17, 2013, 10:44 am
Last edit by: Bitterroot
Updates to Wiki as of 20 January 2014
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
[Confirmed] SYD going UA 3 Cabin 777 in 2014 [and other 747 route changes]
Aug 19, 2013, 8:24 am
#391
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Aug 19, 2013, 8:31 am
#392
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I believe ORD-HKG is weight restricted. I have looked at the flight status page religiously and they would say all cabins are booked full, many standbys don't clear, and the flight departs with empty middle E+ seats.
Not sure about the cargo side.
Also, SYD will require ETOPS 330 I believe, while HKG can be done with ETOPS 180 as the flight manages to hug the coast of Alaska/Aleutians. So, the SYD flights will require a lot more fuel reserve to be loaded.
Not sure about the cargo side.
Also, SYD will require ETOPS 330 I believe, while HKG can be done with ETOPS 180 as the flight manages to hug the coast of Alaska/Aleutians. So, the SYD flights will require a lot more fuel reserve to be loaded.
Aug 19, 2013, 8:52 am
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I believe ORD-HKG is weight restricted. I have looked at the flight status page religiously and they would say all cabins are booked full, many standbys don't clear, and the flight departs with empty middle E+ seats.
Not sure about the cargo side.
Also, SYD will require ETOPS 330 I believe, while HKG can be done with ETOPS 180 as the flight manages to hug the coast of Alaska/Aleutians. So, the SYD flights will require a lot more fuel reserve to be loaded.
Not sure about the cargo side.
Also, SYD will require ETOPS 330 I believe, while HKG can be done with ETOPS 180 as the flight manages to hug the coast of Alaska/Aleutians. So, the SYD flights will require a lot more fuel reserve to be loaded.
Aug 19, 2013, 10:19 am
#394
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HKG, even from ORD, is ETOPS 90, or maybe 120 if some airfields are unavailable.
Aug 19, 2013, 5:29 pm
#395
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When traveling alone or just with my wife, we tend to fly J but even in this situation unless you are on the upper deck there is no real difference in the J or F products between the two planes (2-4-2 in J on the main deck). Luckily I buck the American trend so a few cm of seat width don't make or break it for me
While the upper deck is nice and quite, I believe the pitch is also a bit reduced. Add to this the increased reliability of the 777 fleet and for me I see this as an upgrade but to each his or her own.
Aug 19, 2013, 5:40 pm
#396
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LAX/SFO-SYD will operate with an ETOPS-180 flight plan. I don't know if the Pratt-powered 772ER is even rated for 330-minute ETOPS, to my knowledge, and further, if UAL has elected to maintain any of its 777s to that standard. Regardless, 330min only becomes an requirement on routes from Australia/NZ to to deep South America and NZ to the eastern half of the United States.
Aug 19, 2013, 9:39 pm
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I don't know how this should be a surprise. In fact, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. We all but called it when BD got absorbed into BA; no real *A connections from LHR anymore.
Aug 19, 2013, 10:38 pm
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I have been on more then one 777 itpe with a dead Panasonic display already
It also means that your not subject to ua's interesting choices on programming
Aug 20, 2013, 5:13 pm
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It's not exactly new to be flying the 777 back and forth.... Air NZ has been doing akl to lax on the 777-2er for a while now which iirc has the same etops requirements
Aug 21, 2013, 12:11 am
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I admit it's a huge improvement.Never flew United on the Trips I have done to America but I did it the first time way back in 1989 on the Old Continental 747's mind you and back then all we had was either a Movie Screen or Regular Inflight Audio so things have changed a lot since then.
Aug 21, 2013, 12:31 am
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I was just googling some stuff about 747s and Australia and I came across this article.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/united-conti...an-747-service
Talk about broken promises, pretty sure progress on this is zero, guess they decided to wait for the a350s after all
http://www.ausbt.com.au/united-conti...an-747-service
Talk about broken promises, pretty sure progress on this is zero, guess they decided to wait for the a350s after all
Aug 21, 2013, 12:40 am
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I was just googling some stuff about 747s and Australia and I came across this article.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/united-conti...an-747-service
Talk about broken promises, pretty sure progress on this is zero, guess they decided to wait for the a350s after all
http://www.ausbt.com.au/united-conti...an-747-service
Talk about broken promises, pretty sure progress on this is zero, guess they decided to wait for the a350s after all