Will UA issue ticket (016 ticket) w/ partner airline only, no UA/UX flight on itin?
Feb 1, 2015, 5:34 pm
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Can we re-invigorate this thread now that PQDs are about to come into effect?
I'd like to book a SQ flight coming up (SQ-SQ-UA). Even segment by segment the SQ flights don't show up on UA.com. I book through AMEX, can I call them and have them book on 016 stock and will I then earn the 8x price as a PremG?
I'd like to book a SQ flight coming up (SQ-SQ-UA). Even segment by segment the SQ flights don't show up on UA.com. I book through AMEX, can I call them and have them book on 016 stock and will I then earn the 8x price as a PremG?
Feb 1, 2015, 6:46 pm
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Can we re-invigorate this thread now that PQDs are about to come into effect?
I'd like to book a SQ flight coming up (SQ-SQ-UA). Even segment by segment the SQ flights don't show up on UA.com. I book through AMEX, can I call them and have them book on 016 stock and will I then earn the 8x price as a PremG?
I'd like to book a SQ flight coming up (SQ-SQ-UA). Even segment by segment the SQ flights don't show up on UA.com. I book through AMEX, can I call them and have them book on 016 stock and will I then earn the 8x price as a PremG?
Feb 1, 2015, 8:09 pm
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Feb 1, 2015, 11:00 pm
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Feb 2, 2015, 7:02 pm
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I tried to book through my travel agent today and they say they can't put it on UA stock because the overwater portion is operated by SQ and there is no codeshare on that route. This 1-way itin does have the ending segment as a UA operated domestic segment. Any ideas on what to do here?
Edit: I MUST use my corporate booking agent so please don't contact me to offer your agency's services
Edit: I MUST use my corporate booking agent so please don't contact me to offer your agency's services
Feb 6, 2015, 4:04 am
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I called the 1K desk to try to make a booking through United from BKK<>BOM on AI. The agent referred me back to ua.com or ai.com.
Do I try to call back and get another agent who will try it?
Do I try to call back and get another agent who will try it?
Feb 6, 2015, 5:31 am
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I recently tried to book a domestic flight within India on AI by calling the premier (1K?) line. The agent actually put the AI-only itinerary together, but it failed to price with the error "No valid fare". I checked EF and indeed found that even the Y fare for my city pair included a plating restriction (AI only), so I had no choice but to book directly with AI. Check fare rules on EF or ITA to see if you're having the same issue.
Feb 6, 2015, 5:57 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keloutwest
Can we re-invigorate this thread now that PQDs are about to come into effect?
I'd like to book a SQ flight coming up (SQ-SQ-UA). Even segment by segment the SQ flights don't show up on UA.com. I book through AMEX, can I call them and have them book on 016 stock and will I then earn the 8x price as a PremG?
yes, as long as there is 1 UA-coded segment then Amex can put this on a 016 ticket, not an issues ... have done this a few times last year.
Originally Posted by keloutwest
Can we re-invigorate this thread now that PQDs are about to come into effect?
I'd like to book a SQ flight coming up (SQ-SQ-UA). Even segment by segment the SQ flights don't show up on UA.com. I book through AMEX, can I call them and have them book on 016 stock and will I then earn the 8x price as a PremG?
yes, as long as there is 1 UA-coded segment then Amex can put this on a 016 ticket, not an issues ... have done this a few times last year.
I also believe that UA (and other carriers) doesn't allow TAs to use their stock unless it follows this or possibly certain other rules, and has this in the agreements they have with agencies. They can fine agencies for breaking these agreements (I.e. - booking completely non-UA itineraries on UA stock).
I'm sure there's others in here that have more experience with this that can provide the exact info. But also UA wouldn't be subject to these rules as they are not a TA. They could book it if they chose to - whether they will is a different story.
Feb 6, 2015, 2:45 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfischer
Quote:
Originally Posted by keloutwest
Can we re-invigorate this thread now that PQDs are about to come into effect?
I'd like to book a SQ flight coming up (SQ-SQ-UA). Even segment by segment the SQ flights don't show up on UA.com. I book through AMEX, can I call them and have them book on 016 stock and will I then earn the 8x price as a PremG?
yes, as long as there is 1 UA-coded segment then Amex can put this on a 016 ticket, not an issues ... have done this a few times last year.
I believe this is incorrect. I'm certainly no expert in TA protocol/rules, but I thought in another thread someone had posted about this. Not sure what it was exactly, but vaguely recall something about the first overwater segment carrier (codeshare or operating carrier) was the one that needs to be used for ticketing. I think it might be IATA (or maybe travel agency association) rules.
I also believe that UA (and other carriers) doesn't allow TAs to use their stock unless it follows this or possibly certain other rules, and has this in the agreements they have with agencies. They can fine agencies for breaking these agreements (I.e. - booking completely non-UA itineraries on UA stock).
I'm sure there's others in here that have more experience with this that can provide the exact info. But also UA wouldn't be subject to these rules as they are not a TA. They could book it if they chose to - whether they will is a different story.
Originally Posted by cfischer
Quote:
Originally Posted by keloutwest
Can we re-invigorate this thread now that PQDs are about to come into effect?
I'd like to book a SQ flight coming up (SQ-SQ-UA). Even segment by segment the SQ flights don't show up on UA.com. I book through AMEX, can I call them and have them book on 016 stock and will I then earn the 8x price as a PremG?
yes, as long as there is 1 UA-coded segment then Amex can put this on a 016 ticket, not an issues ... have done this a few times last year.
I believe this is incorrect. I'm certainly no expert in TA protocol/rules, but I thought in another thread someone had posted about this. Not sure what it was exactly, but vaguely recall something about the first overwater segment carrier (codeshare or operating carrier) was the one that needs to be used for ticketing. I think it might be IATA (or maybe travel agency association) rules.
I also believe that UA (and other carriers) doesn't allow TAs to use their stock unless it follows this or possibly certain other rules, and has this in the agreements they have with agencies. They can fine agencies for breaking these agreements (I.e. - booking completely non-UA itineraries on UA stock).
I'm sure there's others in here that have more experience with this that can provide the exact info. But also UA wouldn't be subject to these rules as they are not a TA. They could book it if they chose to - whether they will is a different story.
Feb 6, 2015, 3:12 pm
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Experience tells me this isn't true; last year I flew LAN-ORD-ICN-BKK on UA-OZ-OZ (coded as UA-OZ-OZ) and on a 016 ticket through United.com. You can also search for an award ticket on united.com and they often then give you a cash purchase option even when no flights are operated by UA.
Feb 6, 2015, 3:32 pm
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Experience tells me this isn't true; last year I flew LAN-ORD-ICN-BKK on UA-OZ-OZ (coded as UA-OZ-OZ) and on a 016 ticket through United.com. You can also search for an award ticket on united.com and they often then give you a cash purchase option even when no flights are operated by UA.
I'm happy to be told I'm wrong if that is indeed the case.
I know there are a few folks who have posted on the board at least occasionally, if not more, who are actual TAs who know more. Hopefully they can come and share.
Feb 6, 2015, 5:41 pm
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I've been looking at those NZ flights to AKL. They do appear as UA codeshares but if you booked them from UA, they're like twice as expensive as booking directly from NZ.
Not getting PQDs is as big a deal as the fewer miles.
Feb 6, 2015, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by keloutwest
Correct I tried everything and eventually had to either fly NZ or SQ and book on their ticket stock. I'm very annoyed because on a $5000 ticket I'm losing about 30,000 miles by not booking on 016.
You also didn't get PQDs, right?
I've been looking at those NZ flights to AKL. They do appear as UA codeshares but if you booked them from UA, they're like twice as expensive as booking directly from NZ.
Not getting PQDs is as big a deal as the fewer miles.
Originally Posted by keloutwest
Correct I tried everything and eventually had to either fly NZ or SQ and book on their ticket stock. I'm very annoyed because on a $5000 ticket I'm losing about 30,000 miles by not booking on 016.
You also didn't get PQDs, right?
I've been looking at those NZ flights to AKL. They do appear as UA codeshares but if you booked them from UA, they're like twice as expensive as booking directly from NZ.
Not getting PQDs is as big a deal as the fewer miles.
Feb 11, 2015, 3:53 am
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Most SQ fare rules (or at least the reasonably priced ones) seem to have a clause that says it has to be ticketed on SQ or MI. Presumably that is why plating on 016 is so much more expensive?
Presumably there is no way around this then?
Does anyone know where to find the SQ fares that do not require ticketing on SQ/MI?
Presumably there is no way around this then?
Does anyone know where to find the SQ fares that do not require ticketing on SQ/MI?
Mar 13, 2015, 8:45 am
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Just booked a flight for August on .bomb from MAN to VCE on LH. I checked the cost on other sites and decided to see what .bomb would do.... Surprisingly it pulled up the exact LH flights I wanted (via FRA) and allowed me to purchase for the same price as Expedia / Kayak and then issues me ticket on 016 stock. In the past I thought the only way to do this was via award booking - I guess .bomb is getting a little .better!
A nice "upgrade" if you ask me!