AJCU

DEN=>LHR! And LH back to MUC

And something to Chile.

escapefromphl

+1 How can BA make a 747 work with very little
Connecting feed on the Den side. Wouldn't the 787 make sense?

trvlr70

BA makes it work because the airline offers great service. If you had the option to fly UA or BA, what would you choose?

Always Flyin

For me, it's honestly a toss-up.

I find BA to be UA with an accent and more arrogance than indifference.

I had BA Gold status the last few years and let it lapse. I found I was as frustrated flying BA as I was flying UA. YMMV. I am now flying AA between LAX and LHR on the new 77W.

Continited

PS service JFK-LCY

Not sure of the capability of the sUA 752 on a route like this, but generally speaking the 752 has pretty decent short field performance and would nicely compliment the PS service at JFK, IMO.

I know BA flies this route as well but honestly I have no idea of well it's performing. In any case this would be a nice option for UA and *A to have a flight like this.

escapefromphl

Not unless they buy some Airbus 318's. LCY is type restricted.

787fan

LAXHKG had always been problematic for UA (it switched to LAX-SFO-HKG long long long time ago). For UA, they haven't ran away from SFO/ORD/EWR-HKG despite very strong competition from CX.

"Running away from competition" is defined as PMAA not flying to AMS+MUC from *any* hub despite being 2 of the most important cities in Europe.

HKG-DEL didn't drop because of competition. It was a bygone relic from the PanAm around-the-world days that no longer made any sense in the age of partnership and alliances. It also landed like 2am, which really isn't ideal.

That was WAAAY back when NRT was the be-all-end-all Asian destination, and China/Korean's economy were no where to be seen.

wyoon

Not sure it was suggested or not, but my wish is

IAD-ICN!

Boraxo

OAK-IAH and OAK-DEN

Both would appear to be no-brainers for O/D at OAK as millions who live on this side of the bay would prefer not to deal with ATC and WX delays at SFO. Also UA still maintains service at OAK so might as well get some additional use from the staff and gates.

I gather UA simply could not compete with WN @DEN but this is a bit ironic (and specious) as UA's advance purchase fares from SFO are actually lower than WN's (also true for IAH/HOU).

UA could also get better use from BUR but that's another story.

escapefromphl

They do? When was the last time you flew into OAK? SFO diversions don't count.

UA_Flyer

It is always interesting to read comments relate to those routes, planes and locations I flown and visited often.

Having flown HKG-DEL-LHR often in the late 90s. I did notice most of the flights arrived and departed DEL within those 3 to 4 hours window (11 pm to 3 am). Those schedules were better for flights connections back in Europe and East Asia. The timing of DEL-LHR was great for me to get into London early in the morning.

The fact UA had a 2 am arrival time into DEL was quite normal instead of "not deal" if one looks at it from the late 90s perspective.

I have also flown a ton of 744OB operated flights between SFO/PVG and ORD/NRT and LAX/HKG. The introduction of 744OB, IMHO, came much later than China/Korea economy "nowhere to be seen". I found the above comment rather arrogant and childish.

lensman

OT, but I thought the E145 was superior to the CR2 in every way? What does the CR2 have going for it?

Basic route planning says that BA is flying from their hub, LHR to a significant spoke airport, DEN. Besides the O&D from London, they have feed from their entire UK and European network.

For UA, the question is besides local traffic from DEN, how much feed would they get that doesn't already have a nonstop to another UA hub with a LHR nonstop?

OTOH, I think it is true that every other UA hub has a flight to LHR.

OTOH, since LHR is slot-constrained, each UA flight has to count and has a lot of competition.

OTOH, UA does seem to be using up some of their precious LHR slots with 757s from EWR.

What other secondary cities in Europe can be served from EWR? I wonder what the priority list is? I'm sure UA has good data available from connecting information. Are there any European cities with U.S. carrier nonstops *not* served by UA yet? I mentioned BUD upthread but AA dropped that flight.

FlyingIsCool

IAH - CLO. Continental use to have this flight, starting in 2005 till around 2007 or 2008. I can imagine that CLO has a small market compared to BOG. UA already has two daily flights between IAH-BOG. Anyways, I miss IAH-CLO. I flew it a lot back in the days.

applecow

SFO just picked up two directs to ATL starting in April. Any chance that LAX will be doing the same thing anytime soon?

I know ATL is pretty much dominated by DL, but I'm 1K right now and not quite sure if I should fly DL or just suck it up and fly connections weekly for the next 9 months. I'm Platinum with DL, but Platinum is worthless when flying into a major hub.

kenn0223

Considering LAX is a Delta focus city I doubt it would be a successful route for UA, you never know, but I suspect they have better fights to pick with Delta.