grahampros

Then fly these other carries that offer better service. But i suspect you cant as a corporate traveler since your company is footing the bills with their corporate contact. If these are your worse gripes these days really not much to complain about since your not paying anyway.

76Patriots

Superb dodge in the "you quote me incorrectly, but, whatever". Yes, I expressed your intent instead of quoting you. Quoting you this time, "The only reason to not fly UA out of SFO is 1) spite or 2) I am a kayaker"
And as stated previously, your 'quoted' statement is patently false. But as my words seem indecipherable to you ("No idea what you are actually saying"), how about totally wrong? Absolutely incorrect? However, superb pivot to it simply now being a "clearly superior" choice for you.

UA may clearly be the superior choice for you (it is clearly superior as a 1k or not according to your statement?). It is not going to clearly be a superior choice for most (1k or not). However, for most out of SFO, UA remains a viable option that has some advantages and some disadvantages. The disadvantages have grown with recent changes to MP...... but it still maintains some advantages. That isn't a UA water carrying statement or a statement made out of spite. That is just the truth....

LarkSFO

A corporate traveler who flies in paid C is a fortunate person in these times...

I agree, under these conditions there are superior International carriers.

I would still fly a *A carrier under these conditions (when possible) and credit to UA.

I agree with this statement.

Boraxo

Actually I can - which is something that is apparently not understood by UA management. So long as the fares are comparable (and they often are) I can structure my trips to take LH via FRA or MUC. Or perhaps SQ or OS heading west, and EK and QR to the middle east. The system is also pushing WN for certain domestic itineraries.

Corporate travelers are not as handcuffed as one thinks. I expect UA will see a great deal of attrition when LH and AA finish upgrading the business class cabins. But management seems more obsessed with finding new revenue a la $100 TOD upgrades rather than taking care of existing elites. Not a smart way to do business.

sxf24

I don't think Southwest's state of domicile has anything to do with its product offering.

I never said that different states have different cultures. However, trying to insinuate that larger corporations with management and employees based in many states and countries have cultures determined by the state where headquartered is absurd.

Quite frankly, trying to make blanket (negative) insinuations about Texans is insulting and ignorant.

amartin1979

This "over entitled" elite decided to start trying Alaska Airlines this week.

Their first class is actually pretty nice. Friendly flight attendants, and actually a decent beer on board!

Oh, and I don't have to fight my way through the first class boarding lane.

stephenbgarvan

Hmmm... Internet Explorer-My MSN Stock Quotes

United/Continental Airlines

No symbols match your entry.

LarkSFO

UAL: United Continental Holdings Inc (NYSE)

http://www.bing.com/finance/search?q...TPFSA&qpvt=UAL

Up about 3.00 since 3/3....

stephenbgarvan

Thanks -it just struck me as ironic that it couldnt be found..

PanAmWT

There are strong reasons for 1Ks on TPAC to consider other airlines:

There are now new disadvatages of 1K flying UA for TPAC when a connection occurs at NRT. With 2-3 hours connection time between flights, it used to be that after 20 -30 minutes going through the security we can relax at RCC or NH lounge to recover from the last long flight, possibly taking a shower, and reboard the next flight to a more distant destination. The new boarding procedure pretty much removed the shower, as one has to rush to the next boarding gate one hour ahead to avoid the boarding mess, leaving little time for the lounge visit. This has significantly increased the pain of flying UA throught its international hubs, and this is one of the main reasons I started to fly more direct routes operated by other, better airlines when available. The other main reason is that GPUs are much more difficult to use in the new UA system. I ended up flying Z fare more often. And then why don't I just fly Z fares on other, better Asian airlines? Thus the reason for 1Ks to fly UA diminishes greatly since the merge.

GadgetFreak

And don't forget that several Asian carriers offer premium economy. So if you are going to be in coach that is a much better option. I can't see flying UA transpacific unless there is a VERY good chance of the upgrade clearing.

FlyWorld

I'm certainly the last person to defend COdbaUA, but I have a few questions on this:

1. Was there ever a dedicated 1K security line at SFO? To my knowledge (and SFO is my home airport), there was always a Premier Line (with 30-45 minute wait time during peak travel periods), a GS line, and a line for kettles. Unless I missed something, I've never known about a 1K security line at SFO.

2. How does the red carpet make a difference? They still call 1K ahead of kettles, right? (Except for kettles who bought into F for $29 of course, which is probably half the cabin).

3. In fairness, companion upgrades have always been a snafu, even under UA.

4. Are records split involuntarily or do you have a choice?

5. SWUs are nearly worthless anyway, especially on LH. Does it really matter?

6. Hasn't UA been flying those old 777's on that route since before 3/3?

reddirt14

All good conversation, but we may be straying off point. Did the CFO ever apologize to his dedicated customers for such a rude statement?

UA-NYC

More likely to get a private back slap & an "atta boy!" from $misek than ever make a public apology

PanAmWT

Perhaps I can provide answers to the following:

1. SFO International used to have a premium security line that is for GS/FC/1K only. The same line now is for everyone with kind of status including credit card holders. It changes from the fastest line to sometimes the slowest line, with more people in it than the regular line.

2. The red carpet with the by-pass makes a huge difference to me, not so much at SFO (though still unpleasant for a elite heavy big bird) but very much so when connecting at an international UA hub after a long, tiring overwater flight. See my post (#1242)a few positions above.

5. SWU was not worthless pre-merging. It becomes nearly worthless only after CO takes over.

Absolutely. These premium Economy offers seats that resemble smaller BC seats with increased recline, leg/foor support, and also better meal and cabin service. rather than merely three inches extra leg room as in UA's E+.