United CFO Rainey Implies Certain Elites were "Over Entitled".
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Westchester NY
Programs: UA GS 4+ MM
Posts: 373
United CFO Rainey Implies Certain Elites were "Over Entitled".
"We have certain groups in this (Mileage Plus) program that were over entitled..." according to United's CFO John Rainey, as per his presentation at the BofA Transportation Conference held on May 17th. The entire webcast is available on United's investor relations website, and he makes the comment 11- 12 minutes into the presentation. Since the CFO is a PMCO guy, I imagine he is referring to PMUA fliers. Mr. Rainey also raves about Shares.
So, I guess we have the answer to all of the complaints enumerated by Premiers, 1Ks, GS, MM, etc. We were simply over entitled, not loyal!! Our new airline.
So, I guess we have the answer to all of the complaints enumerated by Premiers, 1Ks, GS, MM, etc. We were simply over entitled, not loyal!! Our new airline.
Last edited by J.Edward; May 20, 2012 at 7:25 pm Reason: Clarify that the CFO implied some groups, which OP thought was Elites
#2
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Dubai / NYC
Programs: EK-IO, UA-1K2MM, ETIHAD-GOLD, SPG-PLAT LIFETIME, JUMEIRAH SERIUS GOLD
Posts: 5,220
Do you have a link to this
I wonder if he feels $3,000,000 a year makes him " over entitled"
I wonder if he feels $3,000,000 a year makes him " over entitled"
#3
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: ASE
Programs: UA 1MM, AA1MM PLTPRO, Hertz PC, National EXC, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton/Marriott Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,357
Completely explains why I am no longer a UA flyer and am glad to have switched over to AA. Good riddance.
Last edited by l etoile; May 19, 2012 at 10:54 pm Reason: Political commentary removed by moderator
#4
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Westchester NY
Programs: UA GS 4+ MM
Posts: 373
http://ir.unitedcontinentalholdings....&p=irol-IRHome
If this doesn't work, just go under investor relations under www.unitedcontinentalholdings.com
If this doesn't work, just go under investor relations under www.unitedcontinentalholdings.com
#5
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: NY Metro Area
Programs: AA 2MM Yay!, UA MM, Costco General Member
Posts: 49,036
On another note, I missed my first upgrade (JFK-LAX) in 18 months last week. And barely made another one (ORD-LGA). Obviously a meaningless data point given in the grand scheme but it will be interesting to see if the number of people switching is really significant and a trend develops. I actually hope so, even if it means I miss a few upgrades.
Last edited by l etoile; May 19, 2012 at 10:55 pm Reason: Removed deleted quote and response thereto
#6
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 49
But Jeff was entitled to that $14.7m in a quarter with a huge loss when only 2 years prior he said he wouldn't take a salary unless the airline was profitable.
#8
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 6km East of EPAYE
Programs: UA Silver, AA Platinum, AS & DL GM Marriott TE, Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,582
Do you think he is refering to Mr. Pillows? No seriously I'm on the IAH air train going to 'B' and don't like the message being given. Does this mean there are more "changes we will like" coming !?
#9
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Dubai / NYC
Programs: EK-IO, UA-1K2MM, ETIHAD-GOLD, SPG-PLAT LIFETIME, JUMEIRAH SERIUS GOLD
Posts: 5,220
I just listened to the first 15 min and had to stop. EXACTLY what I've been saying. They LOVE SHARES and are doing exactly what there business plan is. "over entitled". I love that line. Did he write it while sitting on his corp jet?
#10
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: DL Platinum, AA Lifetime Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Radisson Premium
Posts: 6,638
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3)
Insulting loyal customers. Stay classy.
Insulting loyal customers. Stay classy.
#11
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5,814
I wonder why he would say this out loud -- i'm sure some audience members were UA elites.
#12
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SFO and OAK
Programs: FAF, Hyatt <>, SPG PLT
Posts: 2,240
What he said was just a glitch
#13
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: DL Platinum, AA Lifetime Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Radisson Premium
Posts: 6,638
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3)
It's bewildering why the guy said that stuff... why would anyone insult their customers like that?
Yep. A freudian slip--- exposing the attitude of sCO management that elites are a burden to the airline
It's bewildering why the guy said that stuff... why would anyone insult their customers like that?
Originally Posted by Beerman92
What he said was just a glitch
Last edited by iluv2fly; May 19, 2012 at 3:58 pm Reason: merge/edit
#14
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ONT, SNA, LAX
Programs: UA Plat, AA Plat, SPG Plat, HGP Diamond, Avis First
Posts: 270
#15
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,598
Loved the intro... "John made two comments to me. One, he viewed himself more of a financial guy than an airline guy..." Ya think?
Obviously not using a teleprompter...
Starts at about 11:50...
"...Additionally, we also changed our Mileage Plus program, some of the benefits that, uh, accrued to the members. Uh, we, uh, we had certain groups in this group were over entitled if you will. Uh, and now, uh, we have realigned the benefits of that program with what the, the, the customers and, and, program, um, um, the participants are actually providing to the airline, and, and this is a good change going forward..."
Last edited by iluv2fly; May 19, 2012 at 4:02 pm Reason: merge