Jul 2, 2015, 3:38 pm
Last edit by: drewguy
Version 1 is no longer in service (12 Feb 2017).
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version 1" on the United website has 8 First, 40 Business, and 218 coach seats. (no longer in service)
"Version21" has 8 First, 40 Business, and 221 coach seats. (formerly Version 2 is now Version 1).
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Everything You Wanted to Know About Where to Sit on a pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1
Jun 21, 2013, 1:38 pm
#646
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I have the 10pm IAD-LHR coming up and just switched my travel companion and myself from 7 A/B to 8 J/K. Even though it seems like dinner service is fairly scarce on that route, the idea of facing commotion and light (even with blinders and ear defenders) had me worried. We've slept fine in 8 A/B before, so I guess this will be fine.
I reluctantly took 6 J/K on a TPAC recently and I'm now a convert. Despite the fact that they face forward, I've found them the darkest and quietest in the cabin. Let's face it, we don't fly business class for the food. Well, maybe the sundaes.
I would avoid 8 C/H in any circumstance unless it meant flying in Y. They seem to face right at the lav and I've noticed it bothers just about anyone who sits there.
I reluctantly took 6 J/K on a TPAC recently and I'm now a convert. Despite the fact that they face forward, I've found them the darkest and quietest in the cabin. Let's face it, we don't fly business class for the food. Well, maybe the sundaes.
I would avoid 8 C/H in any circumstance unless it meant flying in Y. They seem to face right at the lav and I've noticed it bothers just about anyone who sits there.
Jun 23, 2013, 4:58 am
#647
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Which is preferable? 10JK or 9AB for a trans-PAC? (UA 836 PVG-ORD)
Last edited by hopel; Jun 23, 2013 at 5:03 am Reason: Clarify
Jun 23, 2013, 1:42 pm
#648
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Jun 24, 2013, 10:38 pm
#649
Join Date: May 2011
Location: HKG, ORD, and BOM
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Hi. On ORD-HKG tomorrow I am in 7B, and 6B is open: Was wondering whether I should switch to forward-facing 6B. I have heard a few people say that they are better able to sleep flying backwards, and indeed I think I may have noticed myself that sleeping backwards seems easier. My explanation for it was that the tilt of the plane places one's head below one's feet when facing forward. However, I don't know why they wouldn't correct for this by just applying a few-degree tilt to the seats? Is there some other reason people prefer backwards? All other things being equal, I'd prefer not to face the galley.
Jun 24, 2013, 11:28 pm
#650
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Jun 25, 2013, 6:57 am
#651
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Jun 27, 2013, 7:17 am
#652
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I'm on UA877 LAX-PVG early next week. E- is full, but E+ is still wide open.
Right now I'm in 20J, which is a great seat. However, I'd rather have a D or G seat if the middle seat stays empty. If I change to... say 25G, how likely is it that 25E will stay empty until departure?
Right now I'm in 20J, which is a great seat. However, I'd rather have a D or G seat if the middle seat stays empty. If I change to... say 25G, how likely is it that 25E will stay empty until departure?
Last edited by sincx; Jun 27, 2013 at 8:09 am
Jun 27, 2013, 7:43 am
#653
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Jun 27, 2013, 7:44 am
#654
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Hard to know if the flight will fill up. With E- totally full there are likely a number of passengers without seat assignments, and they will probably be put in E+ on the day of the flight.
Also, as you might imagine, even those middle seats fill up front to back. I think your best chance at an empty middle would be, say, row 29. But this is all a gamble. It's also a gamble that a couple won't take the other two seats. You'll have to keep checking regularly--I did just this starting from 22G, and I kept moving hoping to keep an empty middle. About 2 days out I stopped because everything was filling in. A couple hours later my upgrade cleared, but in the meantime I had spent a lot of time moving based on the same strategy and went from Row 22G to Row 27D (or something) and still had all three seats filled.
If I had 20J I would probably sit tight with it until day of departure and see what things look like.
Also, as you might imagine, even those middle seats fill up front to back. I think your best chance at an empty middle would be, say, row 29. But this is all a gamble. It's also a gamble that a couple won't take the other two seats. You'll have to keep checking regularly--I did just this starting from 22G, and I kept moving hoping to keep an empty middle. About 2 days out I stopped because everything was filling in. A couple hours later my upgrade cleared, but in the meantime I had spent a lot of time moving based on the same strategy and went from Row 22G to Row 27D (or something) and still had all three seats filled.
If I had 20J I would probably sit tight with it until day of departure and see what things look like.
Jun 27, 2013, 7:45 am
#655
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Available Cabins: F5, FN5, A5, ON4, O4, J9, JN9, C9, D9, Z9, ZN9, P9, PN9, R9, RN9, IN9, I9, Y9, YN9, B9, M9, E9, U9, H9, HN9, Q9, V9, W9, S9, T9, L0, K0, G0, N0, XN0, X0
Jun 27, 2013, 7:51 am
#656
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Seems like a light load, and may be some empty E+ middles - but honestly, you're in a great Y seat at the front of the Y cabin; pax shouldn't be going between Y and J, so it should be pretty tranquil up there. Lot of legroom - you can make a poor man's J seat by putting a rollerboard on the floor in front of you. I'd stick with what you have IMO.
Jun 27, 2013, 8:01 am
#657
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I took this flight in January and everyone in E+ (~20) each took their own set of 3 seats while E- was full. YMMV
Jun 27, 2013, 8:10 am
#658
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Okay, I'll keep checking as we get closer to departure. I might even wait until I'm at the gate. Thanks everyone.
Jul 3, 2013, 4:14 pm
#659
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Anyone have good BF seat recommendations for a group of three? Is it better to ABA, ABB, or ABC?
Jul 3, 2013, 6:19 pm
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