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From SAT Lawyer's First Post:

Please also see: http://seatexpert.com/seatmap/320/Un..._First_&_Biz)/ and http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...747-400_B.php]

What follows is my assessment of where to sit on the 744, which I sampled on a recent flight from SYD-SFO. I sat in E+ for three hours before a flight cancellation on Tuesday and in 15K in the upper deck in business for 13 hours the following day, so I feel sufficiently well-informed to dispense advice for those cabins. I cannot, however, make a recommendation for business class seating on the lower deck or the E- minus cabin, so with that caveat, here is my feedback on the upper deck . . .

Where should I sit in the upper deck? Any seats better than others?

Unlike the old configuration of the upper deck where certain seats – especially the exit row seats in row 15 – are appreciably better, on the new configuration, there is not really much to distinguish between the upper deck seats except for the limited caveats noted below.

What seats should I try to avoid?

There are only five seats that are nominally less attractive than the rest. 12 J & K are close to the forward lavatories and the flight deck so you can expect increased foot traffic and noise during the flight. The shell for 14K protrudes backward into the exit door area and partially overlaps with the exit door causing a nominal reduction in the view and a possible cold spot due to airflow penetrating the door seal. 17 J & K lose a good deal of privacy because they are visible from the top of the stairs and suffer from increased noise and light from the galley and traffic to and from the galley.

Window or aisle?

Window, definitely. And I say this as someone who is typically an aisle guy. You get the side bins for storage, the view, a little more peace and privacy being further removed from the aisle, and avoid the possibility of being disrupted by a seatmate climbing over you. Climbing over a seatmate in the aisle seat who is in the sleeping configuration requires a little bit of dexterity, but certainly is not terribly difficult for anyone who is at least 6 feet tall. Those who are substantially shorter than 6 feet may want to avoid the window, however.

Forward or backward?

Doesn’t really matter. Due to the pitch of the aircraft, those facing backwards will have their feet slightly below their heads in the sleeping configuration, but we are really splitting hairs here. Personally, I prefer the backward-facing view from the upper deck because you can see the wing and the engines.

What if I’m traveling with more than two people?

You will not be able to see or converse with the passengers whose feet oppose yours behind the wall adjoining the foot pocket and video panel. In other words, to give one example, the passengers in 15 J & K are fully walled-off from the passengers in 16 J & K. The shell of the seat also provides full privacy from behind. So, if you want to keep an eye on travel companions, you should try to sit diagonally across the aisle from one other. Passengers in 15 J & K, for example, will have a good view of passengers in 16 A & B, and vice versa. Actually, if you are travelling in a group of more than two and being able to chat is important to you, you'll probably want to sit in the middle section of the lower deck.

What happened to the exit row?

For all intents and purposes, it doesn’t exist. The seats in both rows 14 and 15 both back up to the exit area creating something more akin to an exit corridor. No extra legroom or particular advantage to these seats.

How is the seat for sleeping?

It’s a true, parallel-to-the-ground lie-flat seat, which is the big improvement. The arm rests on both sides can be manually lowered so that they don’t extend above the seat in bed configuration, which further increases arm and shoulder room. Unfortunately, for window seaters, there will be a healthy gap between the lowered arm rest and the side bins which means that the extra room on one side isn’t particularly useful since if you stick your arm far enough off the seat, it will essentially drop off a cliff with nothing to prop it up. As a 6-footer, my left foot was a little bit cramped due to the curvature of the foot-pocket, although this was not terribly bothersome. Both my seatmate and I felt that the seat lacked sufficient padding in the lumbar region of the back so we both woke up with sore lower backs.

What is the audio and video on-demand like?

For United and in comparison to the old configuration, great. The video screens are positively huge. There aren’t as many movies as one may find on airlines like Singapore, but still, there should be enough features to keep all but the most demanding and fickle passengers entertained.

As for the E+ cabin . . .

Seat pitch seems indistinguishable throughout, the bulkhead row 19 excepted. I don't care for the seats in row 19 myself because the hard bulkhead without cutouts effectively prevents all but the shortest traveler from stretching out his or her feet. This is true of both the outside seats as well as the middle section.

I would strongly advise against any D seat -- the aisle seats on the port side of the middle section -- because the audio boxes are beneath those seats and inhibit leg room for the left foot. There still should be enough room to place both feet, but only at a fairly sharp and uncomfortable angle.

As an aisle guy, I would go with one of the G seats. No audio box inhibiting leg room and landlocked middle seat passengers can access the aisle in either direction cutting in half your chance of getting bumped or bothered while you are trying to sleep.

There are still no individual seat-back video screens, unfortunately, so you are stuck with whatever programming UA runs on the main screens. Fortunately, the main screens have been upgraded to LCD screens. Sit at least a few rows back from row 19 to avoid being uncomfortably close to the screens.
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Old May 13, 2015, 12:37 pm
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According to the fleet site, all 744s have Y power

https://sites.google.com/site/united...fleet-tracking
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Old May 13, 2015, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by lax2010
Husband and wife; what is your take for the following two options? Thx!

3A&3C for closest across the isle? Or

4C&4H for further away from the window seats on both sides?
Can't resist. Is UA now flying the 747 to Hawaii??
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Old May 13, 2015, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by milepig
Can't resist. Is UA now flying the 747 to Hawaii??
Yes between NRT & HNL.
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Old May 13, 2015, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by JVPhoto
Yes between NRT & HNL.
Which actually makes it a flight between two aisles [sic].
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Old May 13, 2015, 10:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Nudetypist
I am flying on a United 747-400 from Chicago to Japan in 3 weeks. According to seatguru, this plane does not have power. But I recently stumbled onto this posting:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...ir_Travel.html
ALL 747s now have power and streaming WiFi as well as internet WiFi.

Streaming WiFi is free, internet not so much. And internet is turned off anytime over mainland China.

Originally Posted by neo_781
I think some do now have power in coach. A friend flew SFO-HKG last week and he said his Y seat had power. I don't think all 747's have been converted though.
This is the wrong answer.

Originally Posted by UTex09
According to the fleet site, all 744s have Y power

https://sites.google.com/site/united...fleet-tracking
This is the correct answer.

Originally Posted by JVPhoto
Yes between NRT & HNL.
Seasonally.

777 is also used on this route.
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Old May 13, 2015, 11:55 pm
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Originally Posted by EmailKid


Seasonally.

777 is also used on this route.
I also saw a 787 for later this year.
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Old May 14, 2015, 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by JVPhoto
I also saw a 787 for later this year.
OK, that's new :-:
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Old May 20, 2015, 10:55 am
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Finding myself w/ no choice but to fly SFO-LHR-SFO on a UA 747 (award space) in E+. Anyone have any idea of loads on flts 901/900? Going for 21 A/C & 24 H/K, in hopes we can keep the row to ourselves (loads look really light so far... but we travel in September). Other thought was to just take D/E or G/F to avoid anyone climbing over us (or having to get up). Already dreading this.

Any suggestions would be helpful.
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Old May 20, 2015, 10:51 pm
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I just booked a saver business fare returning from nrt to sfo in August. This is my first time on a 747 (first trip to Japan as well). Family of 4 in the upper deck in 15 and 16 j and k. Am I better off in a cluster how it is now, or a whole row across in 16? Thanks!
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Old May 20, 2015, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by nottarockstar
Going for 21 A/C & 24 H/K, in hopes we can keep the row to ourselves (loads look really light so far... but we travel in September). Other thought was to just take D/E or G/F to avoid anyone climbing over us (or having to get upl.
UA is pretty good at filling seats. Not that many empties even on 747.

Keeping middle seat empty is an OK strategy, but does not always work. OTOH, probably not too hard to swap to sit together if middle seat is taken @:-)

Originally Posted by Chukiechz
I just booked a saver business fare returning from nrt to sfo in August. This is my first time on a 747 (first trip to Japan as well). Family of 4 in the upper deck in 15 and 16 j and k. Am I better off in a cluster how it is now, or a whole row across in 16?
Enjoy Japan, a wonderful country to visit

UD, you really can't go wrong, best seats in UA fleet ^

Either way is fine, the way you are now, some seats facing forward, some back. If one group, it may be nice to be in same row.
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Old May 20, 2015, 11:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Chukiechz
I just booked a saver business fare returning from nrt to sfo in August. This is my first time on a 747 (first trip to Japan as well). Family of 4 in the upper deck in 15 and 16 j and k. Am I better off in a cluster how it is now, or a whole row across in 16? Thanks!
It depends on what is important to you about having the seats together. If you just want to see your family without having to get up, then a whole row across is better. If some members want to fly facing forward while others facing the rear, then 15/16 are better. I'm sure others will have additional suggestions/things to think about.

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Old May 25, 2015, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by neo_781
I think some do now have power in coach. A friend flew SFO-HKG last week and he said his Y seat had power. I don't think all 747's have been converted though.
All of the 747's have power; however, the FA announced that not all of them will work all the time. It will cycle through the plane. It sounded like the plane does not have enough electricity to power all seats at all times. Strange, but thats what she announced.

Originally Posted by goodeats21
I think that would be a mistake. Vast majority of the noise and activity on the UD in flight is by the lavs and cockpit. Very little activity on the stairs.

My preferred seat is either 15A or 15K. Highly recommend either one.
So I had 13A SFO-ICN and 15A ICN-SFO and I think row 13 is my favorite because of the bulkhead behind 13 AB, and also I noticed the FA's leave drink carts behind 15 causing glasses to make noise, and people congregating around the emergency exit to stretch and talk. 13 from now on. Love 747 UD!
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Old May 26, 2015, 12:03 am
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Hi, I am flying from SFO to ICN on United. Is there power for Economy Plus? Also, I have the choice of Row 25 and Row 49 (for four travelers). I am reading and it looks like 25 is the best. However, it is the row right in front of the bathroom. Do you know if there will be a smell?
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Old May 26, 2015, 12:18 pm
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14A questions

I have the option of selecting 14A or 13K. Last time I flew I had 14K and was able to do the "wiggle out" to exit the seat without disturbing the person on the aisle seat.

14 A though I believe has FA jumpseat. Assuming no one is sitting in the j/s, can you wiggle out behind 14 A like 14K?

Also - I'm a bit concerned that FA will sit in those and "chat" during their down periods - if that is the case I'd pick 13K.

Any advice on either of these two questions would be most welcome!
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Old May 26, 2015, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by TrinaLC
I have the option of selecting 14A or 13K. Last time I flew I had 14K and was able to do the "wiggle out" to exit the seat without disturbing the person on the aisle seat.

14 A though I believe has FA jumpseat. Assuming no one is sitting in the j/s, can you wiggle out behind 14 A like 14K?

Also - I'm a bit concerned that FA will sit in those and "chat" during their down periods - if that is the case I'd pick 13K.

Any advice on either of these two questions would be most welcome!
I can't advise on the "wiggle out" as I just simply step over the person reclined in the aisle seat (I have long legs ^)

I have never seen the FAs sit in the jump seat of the middle upper deck and chat during flight. They have always been hanging out in the galley area.

In my experience, most of the disturbance issues in the upper deck come from the lav/cockpit area. Lav doors, lights, security fence being deployed/removed for cockpit access, etc.
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