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Originally Posted by Internaut
(Post 33038501)
I've no idea which group I'm actually in. I'm 50 and have Asthma (or COPD as they seem to call it now)
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Originally Posted by Internaut
(Post 33038501)
I've no idea which group I'm actually in. I'm 50 and have Asthma (or COPD as they seem to call it now) which, up until around 10 years ago wasn't at all well controlled (think blue inhaler, constantly). Then the practice nurse changed the maintenance inhaler from the old brown one (Becotide, I think) to Symbicort. Fast forward ten years and I have no idea if my Asthma is classed as severe. What I can say is I take two doses of Symbicort (bought down four a few years back) per day and go, manage a total of ten miles brisk walking, most days, and can go months without needing a reliever. Either way, it looks like the first step to giving me my wings back will be before the end of April. Just curious to know what the thinking is.
Originally Posted by The Green Book Chapter 14a
Individuals with a severe lung condition, including those with asthma that requires continuous or repeated use of systemic steroids or with previous exacerbations requiring hospital admission, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) including chronic bronchitis and emphysema; bronchiectasis, cystic fibrosis, interstitial lung fibrosis, pneumoconiosis and bronchopulmonary dysplasia (BPD).
Another perspective is to say that someone aged say 30 in good health and with no history of any trigger factor won't be a priority if vaccines are in short supply. But as soon as triggers get added, in my view we vaccinate sooner rather than later. And if in doubt we vaccinate and then ask questions. We aren't so short of vaccines that we need to ration them out harshly. However you would need your GP, or I fear a GP's administrator, to share my views and put you on a list, and at least some GPs will be quite strict about this, unfortunately. |
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In todays briefing, the wording from the NHS guy was almost giving an impression that they've been holding a bunch of vaccines back for the second doses and there will be a doubling up next month. On the other hand he said the end of April was the target based on expected supply, suggesting a drop. Sturgeon also said there would be a significant increase in supply during March. Am I wide of the mark here, it was a little unclear?
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Originally Posted by PxC
(Post 33038959)
In todays briefing, the wording from the NHS guy was almost giving an impression that they've been holding a bunch of vaccines back for the second doses and there will be a doubling up next month. On the other hand he said the end of April was the target based on expected supply, suggesting a drop. Sturgeon also said there would be a significant increase in supply during March. Am I wide of the mark here, it was a little unclear?
'And when we look at the likely vaccine supply that we will have available to us between now and the end of April, that appears to be what we can do. 'If supply increases then we think we can go faster. But that at the moment represents still a doubling of the number of vaccines delivered over the next 10 or 11 weeks compared to those that have been delivered over the last 10 weeks." I think he's mistaking us for a bit stupid, we know more jabs have to be done in the next 10 weeks than the first 10 weeks but the run rate now is what is important not what we achieved say in December as we've speeded up since then. I don't understand his phrase of doubling unless he means we will have done 32m against the 15m to today? Our calculations also tell us there are only 1.6m 2nd doses due in March/early April so that's not a massive liability. So maybe he knows something about a supply problem we don't? |
CWS, can I just comment that your knowledge and informed assistance on COVID matters for us all here matches - if not exceeds - your information on BA travel matters that we have come to rely on for the last few years!
Thank you, sir. Well done. |
All signs point to a supply issue. Because the next lot of priority groups should be able to be done within the next 5 - 6 weeks before second doses need to be given out, according to their 12-week between doses strategy.
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Originally Posted by paulaf
(Post 33039057)
I think he's mistaking us for a bit stupid, we know more jabs have to be done in the next 10 weeks than the first 10 weeks but the run rate now is what is important not what we achieved say in December as we've speeded up since then. I don't understand his phrase of doubling unless he means we will have done 32m against the 15m to today? Our calculations also tell us there are only 1.6m 2nd doses due in March/early April so that's not a massive liability. So maybe he knows something about a supply problem we don't?
But I go back to my earlier point, you can set the maximum speed at say 600k a dat and easily get it all done by early April, or you put some contingency in there, as happened for the 15 February date. Early April is bound to fail, end of April is realistic. |
Originally Posted by antichef
(Post 33039102)
CWS, can I just comment that your knowledge and informed assistance on COVID matters for us all here matches - if not exceeds - your information on BA travel matters that we have come to rely on for the last few years!
[And for anyone getting injected soon: it's really helpful if you can wear something with short sleeves!] |
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 33039208)
[And for anyone getting injected soon: it's really helpful if you can wear something with short sleeves!]
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 33039187)
Doubling up means, I believe, that there are the original 15 million who will need their 2nd jabs; plus the 17 million of the remaining 50 year olds (Groups 5 to 9) including the "underlyings", plus perhaps some second jabs from the 17 million, plus those in Groups 1 to 4 who for whatever reason have not been vaccinated. Now clearly this can be deconstructed by the fact that we are looking at a 10 week period rather than a 12 week period. People I vaccinated on Thursday (12 February) were given today their 2nd appointment dates of 29 April, which is just under 11 weeks.
But I go back to my earlier point, you can set the maximum speed at say 600k a dat and easily get it all done by early April, or you put some contingency in there, as happened for the 15 February date. Early April is bound to fail, end of April is realistic. |
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 33038567)
The wording for this is
I think you can look at this from several perspectives, one obviously is to look at the above wording and apply it strictly. If you are twice a day, that seems "continuous" to me, but I'm not a clinician (as I'm frequently reminded). Another perspective is to say that someone aged say 30 in good health and with no history of any trigger factor won't be a priority if vaccines are in short supply. But as soon as triggers get added, in my view we vaccinate sooner rather than later. And if in doubt we vaccinate and then ask questions. We aren't so short of vaccines that we need to ration them out harshly. However you would need your GP, or I fear a GP's administrator, to share my views and put you on a list, and at least some GPs will be quite strict about this, unfortunately. In other news, this is a worrying time for me and everyone I work with. A key member of the team is in bed and very poorly. This is very real and I’m not the least bit sympathetic towards the deniers and those MPs who seem doomed to repeatedly slamming themselves into the same glass door. |
10 years in jail for not declaring Red List was a ridiculous bluff as you said [MENTION=566057]KARFA[/MENTION].
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
(Post 33040523)
10 years in jail for not declaring Red List was a ridiculous bluff as you said [MENTION=566057]KARFA[/MENTION].
(Although this case slightly disproves that...) |
Originally Posted by stut
(Post 33040550)
As pointed out by Simon Evans on the News Quiz - when you get a hugely disproportionate sentence, it's usually a tacit acknowledgement that the law is practically unenforceable.
(Although this case slightly disproves that...) Interesting that the court rules against the Dutch curfew and asked them to remove it immediately, at least the law is not all for governments doing as they please it seems! |
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