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Swanhunter Sep 12, 2021 8:16 am

The travel changes would be a major positive, removing the fear/uncertainty of a positive result while out of the U.K. That said given the endless flip flopping and U turns from the Government I’ll believe it when I see it.

DaveS Sep 12, 2021 9:55 am

Daily data:

Cases 29,547 (37,578 last Saturday)
Deaths 156 (120)
Patients admitted 1,073 (990 on the 31st)
People vaccinated up to and including 11 September 2021:
First dose: 48,422,588
Second dose: 43,991,875

The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 1.1% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 22.6%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 138.7 today.

lhrsfo Sep 12, 2021 11:02 am


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 33561687)
The travel changes would be a major positive, removing the fear/uncertainty of a positive result while out of the U.K.

I think they are trailing dropping the Day 2 test, not the test before departure. So you will still be running the risk of being stuck abroad with COVID.

Dan1113 Sep 12, 2021 11:05 am


Originally Posted by DaveS (Post 33561404)
A surprising development:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58535258

Didn't see that one coming!

A foolish decision, imo.

Dan1113 Sep 12, 2021 11:08 am


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 33562006)
I think they are trailing dropping the Day 2 test, not the test before departure. So you will still be running the risk of being stuck abroad with COVID.

Hopefully scotland will also join this!

PxC Sep 12, 2021 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33562011)
A foolish decision, imo.

Do you really think they make that much difference given how transmissible delta is even with the vaccines? I do find the idea that the government can force people to be turned away from events because they’ve chosen not to have a vaccine as a bit disturbing. When you take away the ability to test or use proof of prior infection, it also just comes across as blackmail quite frankly.

Schwann Sep 12, 2021 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 33562006)
I think they are trailing dropping the Day 2 test, not the test before departure. So you will still be running the risk of being stuck abroad with COVID.

From what I've read online, rumours are it's the day 2 rapid test only going forwards...

The testing cowboys online are ringing their hands. +4400 Absolute Rapid Lateral Flow Covid Tests are already set up ready to be at the top of the UK approved alphabetical web listing.

Hopefully NHS lateral flow tests are used for day 2 going forwards.

KARFA Sep 12, 2021 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by PxC (Post 33562145)
Do you really think they make that much difference given how transmissible delta is even with the vaccines? I do find the idea that the government can force people to be turned away from events because they’ve chosen not to have a vaccine as a bit disturbing. When you take away the ability to test or use proof of prior infection, it also just comes across as blackmail quite frankly.

vaccine passports were mostly proposed to trying to force the few who hadn't taken their jabs to get them (xref France). Very little to do with stopping infections since we all know the vaccinated can still be infected and can still get ill.

VSLover Sep 12, 2021 12:56 pm

Convenient to drop the day 2 test after the travel season is done! But i fully welcome this as it only makes sense to get the pcr if a lat test is positive and that they barely sequence any of them!

13901 Sep 12, 2021 11:16 pm


Originally Posted by Schwann (Post 33562146)
From what I've read online, rumours are it's the day 2 rapid test only going forwards...

The testing cowboys online are ringing their hands. +4400 Absolute Rapid Lateral Flow Covid Tests are already set up ready to be at the top of the UK approved alphabetical web listing.

Hopefully NHS lateral flow tests are used for day 2 going forwards.

This is what I'm reading too. Drop the pre-flight test but keep the Day 2 (and I'm sure they'll be at a price, say £20/30).

This would be the stupidest possible thing (as it fails to prevent infected people travelling on a plane and into the country), keeps on giving money to Shappie's friends and does very little to encourage accessibility to the UK. It's also a policy that, to my knowledge, no one else in the world follows.

That's why I think the man will endorse it.

VSLover Sep 13, 2021 1:17 am


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 33563243)
This is what I'm reading too. Drop the pre-flight test but keep the Day 2 (and I'm sure they'll be at a price, say £20/30).

This would be the stupidest possible thing (as it fails to prevent infected people travelling on a plane and into the country), keeps on giving money to Shappie's friends and does very little to encourage accessibility to the UK. It's also a policy that, to my knowledge, no one else in the world follows.

That's why I think the man will endorse it.

im reading the other way. end the day 2 PCR test, keep pre-flight.

pre-flight is common amongst many countries, unlike the day 2 PCR.

13901 Sep 13, 2021 1:19 am


Originally Posted by VSLover (Post 33563371)
im reading the other way. end the day 2 PCR test, keep pre-flight.

pre-flight is common amongst many countries, unlike the day 2 PCR.

here’s to hoping you are right and I’m wrong!!!

VSLover Sep 13, 2021 1:47 am


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 33563377)
here’s to hoping you are right and I’m wrong!!!


i mean fine, i can deal with the pre-flight antigen test even if fully-vaxxed. it is just the day 2 PCR i have a strong objection to, so lets hope!

though with this government, it will happen during the middle of winter lockdown when we are not allowed to travel again. hahaha, i joke and cry at the same time.

lhrsfo Sep 13, 2021 4:23 am


Originally Posted by VSLover (Post 33563371)
im reading the other way. end the day 2 PCR test, keep pre-flight.

pre-flight is common amongst many countries, unlike the day 2 PCR.

If you believe in efficient government (and that's a huge IF), it's far more sensible to require pre-flight tests, because the airlines are set up to, and will, administer compliance. Ensuring compliance with the Day 2 tests is nearly impossible: at great inconvenience they can ensure people have bought them, but trying to ensure they then take them is very difficult.

Internaut Sep 13, 2021 4:36 am


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 33563584)
If you believe in efficient government (and that's a huge IF), it's far more sensible to require pre-flight tests, because the airlines are set up to, and will, administer compliance. Ensuring compliance with the Day 2 tests is nearly impossible: at great inconvenience they can ensure people have bought them, but trying to ensure they then take them is very difficult.

I can imagine returned tests having a higher probability of going missing in the post than most normal correspondence.


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