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13901 Sep 5, 2021 2:10 am


Originally Posted by fransknorge (Post 33544484)
MENTION=10052014]13901[/MENTION]: not sure this is true. In Germany testing after arrival is necessary depending on origin country (test at 5 days). They made it "mandatory" by using it as a way to cut short quarantine.

I was talking about travel within Europe. There I believe that the green pass should suffice, or so say my clients in Bavaria. Here, instead, we have overkill for travel while at the same time rules like mask-wearing are now a matter of "personal choice".


Originally Posted by plunet (Post 33544493)
I was looking at this a week or so ago. I could see references that the contract for pharmacies to distribute the LFT kits was due to expire at the end of August and I could not see anything obvious at the time that it was going to be extended.

That'd be a shame as these tests are actually useful.

flashware Sep 5, 2021 2:21 am


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 33544434)
No one else in Europe is doing it for intra-EU travel (and somehow they have less cases than the UK).

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0ea5cf9295.png


There's a racket with the obligation to do PCRs as the 'excuse' is that they need do DNA sequencing. Too bad that the actual numbers look like this:


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...50c191ebae.jpg
High time this was scrapped. Especially for vaccinated travellers coming from low-risk countries. If it's needed to be kept for, say, arrivals from South America or wherever sure, but it should go. Shapps' friends in the testing industry should've done plenty of hay on our backs by now.

Am I the only one who sees this and thinks of Disk Defragmenter?

13901 Sep 5, 2021 3:31 am


Originally Posted by flashware (Post 33544518)
Am I the only one who sees this and thinks of Disk Defragmenter?

When I saw it first I thought of Minesweeper but now that you mention it…

PxC Sep 5, 2021 5:55 am


Originally Posted by flashware (Post 33544518)
Am I the only one who sees this and thinks of Disk Defragmenter?

It would help if the likes of Starner didn’t constantly warn that more border restrictions are needed, purely so he can scream the government were negligent if another variant arrives

I’ve just paid £43 for the Randox day 2 for when I fly back from Vienna later. Do I even need to bother doing/sending the test, in all honesty?

alex67500 Sep 5, 2021 8:52 am


Originally Posted by PxC (Post 33544719)
It would help if the likes of Starner didn’t constantly warn that more border restrictions are needed, purely so he can scream the government were negligent if another variant arrives

I’ve just paid £43 for the Randox day 2 for when I fly back from Vienna later. Do I even need to bother doing/sending the test, in all honesty?

You don't want to be the unlucky example if they suddenly start to enforce it!

DaveS Sep 5, 2021 9:03 am

Daily data:

Cases 37,011 (33,196 last Sunday)
Deaths 68 (61)
People vaccinated up to and including 4 September2021:
First dose: 48,245,337
Second dose: 43,378,193

The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 3.6% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 0.6%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 113.1 today.

Dan1113 Sep 6, 2021 3:30 am

With schools in England now back......good luck guys.

CD747 Sep 6, 2021 6:47 am

I'm not sure what the best thread to ask this in is, but what is the likelihood of the UK offering booster vaccines or child vaccines (even for purchase), in order to enable travelers meet the entry requirements of countries that require children vaccinated or a vaccine in the last 6 months?

DaveS Sep 6, 2021 9:26 am

Daily data:

Cases 41,192 (26,476 last Monday)
Deaths 45 (48)
People vaccinated up to and including 5 September2021:
First dose: 48,270,113
Second dose: 43,455,083

The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 12.2% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 2.0%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 112.7 today.

NWIFlyer Sep 6, 2021 9:58 am


Originally Posted by CD747 (Post 33546745)
I'm not sure what the best thread to ask this in is, but what is the likelihood of the UK offering booster vaccines or child vaccines (even for purchase), in order to enable travelers meet the entry requirements of countries that require children vaccinated or a vaccine in the last 6 months?

At the moment, as near to nil as you can possibly imagine, I'm afraid. The JCVI has recommended that children aged 12-15 who are otherwise healthy should not be vaccinated at this time. Even if HMG goes against that advice, which now appears less likely than it did a few days ago, there have been no vaccines sold in the UK.

Travel would not be considered a valid reason for vaccination.

You would need to find a country that would (a) accept unvaccinated children and (b) had a policy of vaccinating that age group irrespective of nationality/residence. That's likely a tough thing to arrange when balanced against the rules everywhere relaxing at some point in 2022.

bluemoon68 Sep 6, 2021 10:05 am


Originally Posted by NWIFlyer (Post 33547137)
At the moment, as near to nil as you can possibly imagine, I'm afraid. The JCVI has recommended that children aged 12-15 who are otherwise healthy should not be vaccinated at this time. Even if HMG goes against that advice, which now appears less likely than it did a few days ago, there have been no vaccines sold in the UK.

Travel would not be considered a valid reason for vaccination.

You would need to find a country that would (a) accept unvaccinated children and (b) had a policy of vaccinating that age group irrespective of nationality/residence. That's likely a tough thing to arrange when balanced against the rules everywhere relaxing at some point in 2022.

Sadly, I agree. The same goes for countries that require a 3rd vaccine and/ or to have had a vaccine within the last 6 months. Israel seems to be going down this route having offered a third vaccine to most adults and vaccinating teenagers.

Internaut Sep 6, 2021 10:12 am


Originally Posted by NWIFlyer (Post 33547137)
Even if HMG goes against that advice, which now appears less likely than it did a few days ago, there have been no vaccines sold in the UK.

Looking at the mood music (i.e. notable enough people who get quoted in the papers), I actually think it looks more likely at the moment. The JCVI didn't provide a very strong argument either way so I'm expecting Johnson to follow the politics on this one.

seattle29 Sep 6, 2021 11:29 pm


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33546497)
With schools in England now back......good luck guys.

My high school tested 1200 pupils with lateral flow tests on their first day back - only 12 came back as positive, and when doing follow up PCR tests only 1 was positive. We'll be testing them again next week.

ft101 Sep 7, 2021 5:35 am

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, but Scotland now seems to be offering Day 2 & 8 tests from private providers, according to this page:

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ist-countries/

But the link in there takes you a page which specifies it's for arrivals to England. Can anyone clarify?

DaveS Sep 7, 2021 7:00 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 33548933)
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, but Scotland now seems to be offering Day 2 & 8 tests from private providers, according to this page:

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ist-countries/

But the link in there takes you a page which specifies it's for arrivals to England. Can anyone clarify?

This was mentioned in another thread. They have at last come into line with England, so the English list should be correct for Scotland too.


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