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Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 33540156)
Quite a powerful opinion piece on The Times about HMG's errors on travel. Furlough is about to finish and it's unrealistic not to expect more job losses in what used to be a leading sector of this country's economy (and now is lagging behind Europe). BA, for instance, is still flying about half of the passengers it used to.
But the blame can't be placed squarely at the government's door. There is still widespread uncertainty and worry around the rules for entering destination countries and many people - myself included - simply can't be bothered travelling until they can do so without PLFs, PCR tests, vaccine passports, social distancing, self-isolation and other requirements and restrictions. And, to be honest, I haven't really missed it - I've had one of the most enjoyable summers I can remember, right here in the UK - and might not ever return to the level of flying I used to do. Airlines might have an uphill battle to win back all the customers they've lost. |
Originally Posted by Silver Fox
(Post 33540288)
I don't agree with all of that but there are serious questions to be
Originally Posted by Misco60
(Post 33540501)
There is no doubt that the UK government's policy on travel has been a chaotic, inconsistent mess, right from the start of the pandemic until now, and the complexities and uncertainties around the rules are deterring many people from travelling.
But the blame can't be placed squarely at the government's door. There is still widespread uncertainty and worry around the rules for entering destination countries and many people - myself included - simply can't be bothered travelling until they can do so without PLFs, PCR tests, vaccine passports, social distancing, self-isolation and other requirements and restrictions. And, to be honest, I haven't really missed it - I've had one of the most enjoyable summers I can remember, right here in the UK - and might not ever return to the level of flying I used to do. Airlines might have an uphill battle to win back all the customers they've lost. |
Daily data:
Cases 42,076 (38,046 last Friday) Deaths 121 (100) Patients admitted 985 (953 on the 23rd) Patients in hospital 7,541 (6,992 on the 26th) Patients in ventilation beds 1,038 (982 on the 26th) People vaccinated up to and including 2 September2021: First dose: 48,171,998 Second dose: 43,142,747 The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 0.4% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 5.6%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 114.0 today. |
I travel as much as I did before right now. No difference. My only current limitation is the USA.
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Daily data:
Cases 37,578 (32,406 last Friday) Deaths 120 (133) Patients admitted 985 (987 on the 24th) People vaccinated up to and including 3 September2021: First dose: 48,205,585 Second dose: 43,251,037 The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 2.4% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is flat at 0.0%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 112.1 today. |
The long queues at LHR were mentioned in one of these threads. HAL are now complaining about it according to the BBC:
Heathrow Airport has criticised Border Force after passengers faced "unacceptable queuing times". Images on social media showed packed queues at the west London airport on Friday night, with travellers complaining of waits of several hours. A Heathrow spokesman apologised for the delays, but blamed Border Force for not providing enough staff at immigration. The Home Office, which has responsibility for Border Force, said the wait times were "unacceptable". It said Border Force was "rapidly reviewing its rosters and capacity and flexibly deploying our staff across the airport to improve waiting times". |
Not for nothing is it "Border Farce". :)
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Sack Priti, sack Grant, scrap day 2 testing, scrap the red list. Job done.
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Day 2 testing is probably THE thing to not scrap. If someone get sicks during his/her vacations, day 2 (and day 5) testing is your best bet to catch it.
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33544410)
Day 2 testing is probably THE thing to not scrap. If someone get sicks during his/her vacations, day 2 (and day 5) testing is your best bet to catch it.
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33544410)
Day 2 testing is probably THE thing to not scrap. If someone get sicks during his/her vacations, day 2 (and day 5) testing is your best bet to catch it.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0ea5cf9295.png There's a racket with the obligation to do PCRs as the 'excuse' is that they need do DNA sequencing. Too bad that the actual numbers look like this: https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...50c191ebae.jpg High time this was scrapped. Especially for vaccinated travellers coming from low-risk countries. If it's needed to be kept for, say, arrivals from South America or wherever sure, but it should go. Shapps' friends in the testing industry should've done plenty of hay on our backs by now. |
Originally Posted by flashware
(Post 33544427)
Sure, but use a free antigen test from the NHS to do it if it's such a public health concern.
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33544410)
Day 2 testing is probably THE thing to not scrap. If someone get sicks during his/her vacations, day 2 (and day 5) testing is your best bet to catch it.
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The way it is done is a different affair and I agree it is problematic. Pricing is a serious issue (I pay my antigen test 99 cents if self made, free if made by someone else) and guarantee of quick results another one. [MENTION=10052014]13901[/MENTION]: not sure this is true. In Germany testing after arrival is necessary depending on origin country (test at 5 days). They made it "mandatory" by using it as a way to cut short quarantine.
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Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 33544439)
BTW, don't know if it's scaremongering or what, but I went to pick up a new box at my local testing centre and they were saying they might stop dishing these out.
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