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Silver Fox Aug 25, 2021 1:27 am


Originally Posted by PxC (Post 33516248)
Edit: removed a fear inducing SkyNews non story.

It's difficult to find a news story that isn't based on fear at the moment.

VickiSoCal Aug 25, 2021 7:51 am

My daughter is going through the dissertation matching process and has had early morning (due to California time) video conferences with 7 professors this week. No one is happy. The professors are not happy, the students are not happy, but St Andrews administration is holding firm on 35 student cap for in person classes. One of her grad classes has 36 enrolled and is scheduled in a 200 person lecture hall and it must be virtual. Even if the professor arranges that some students don't come each time and even though they will all be masked.
"We should just have it at the pub" seems to be a common refrain.

DaveS Aug 25, 2021 9:10 am

Daily data:

Cases 35,847 (33,904 last Wednesday)
Deaths 149 (111)
Patients admitted 859 (773 on the 14th)
Patients in hospital 6,874 (6,370 on the 17th)
Patients in ventilation beds 957 (925 on the 17th)
People vaccinated up to and including 24 August 2021:
First dose: 47,792,552
Second dose: 42,072,712

The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 12.1% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 13.4%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 106.1 today.

ringingup Aug 25, 2021 9:23 am


Originally Posted by DaveS (Post 33518343)
Cases 25,558 (33,904 last Wednesday)

Interesting drop.

8420PR Aug 25, 2021 9:36 am


Originally Posted by ringingup (Post 33518394)
Interesting drop.

I think it should be 35,847 cases?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...392b2e89a3.png
Source: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

ringingup Aug 25, 2021 9:39 am

Does anyone know, perhaps corporate-wage-slave , how long does an average patient admitted with Covid spend in hospital?

Also, is there any data on the number of patients in hospital because of Covid vs patients who tested positive once admitted?

squawk Aug 26, 2021 12:57 am


Originally Posted by ringingup (Post 33518439)
Does anyone know, perhaps corporate-wage-slave , how long does an average patient admitted with Covid spend in hospital?

Also, is there any data on the number of patients in hospital because of Covid vs patients who tested positive once admitted?

I can’t remember where I saw it, but I recall reading that for at least some people admitted they are in hospital longer than before - they’re typically younger and therefore their bodies have more reserves to draw on if they become seriously ill.

My suspicion is that a single average (mean or median) will not be very insightful without stratification at the very least into vaccinated / non-vaccinated and probably by age too.

I’m also not sure how widely this data is available on a national level between various trusts. If it isn’t, on the assumption that the patterns of infection to admission/discharge and serious illness vs mild illness are holding roughly steady, the changes over time in the data published by the government about hospital utilisation (number of beds in use) are probably a good enough approximation for most purposes. If they stay manageable, with relatively low rates of increase over time, that’s a very different picture to them increasing dramatically in a short period of time.

corporate-wage-slave Aug 26, 2021 1:18 am


Originally Posted by ringingup (Post 33518439)
Does anyone know, perhaps corporate-wage-slave , how long does an average patient admitted with Covid spend in hospital?

Also, is there any data on the number of patients in hospital because of Covid vs patients who tested positive once admitted?

For the first, the median stay is about 8 days (average gets drawn out by a low number of cases in hospital for months). This is down about a day from Alpha, mainly due to better triage and treatment options out of hospital. So we now send people home with dexamethasone and anti-coagulents, whereas in Alpha we may have at least started that treatment in hospital. So we get a big group staying in for a few nights, another group staying in for about 12 - 20 days (these are the cases that may end up in ICU) and finally some long term cases.

I haven't seen a recent breakdown for "admitted for COVID" and "admitted for something else but found to be COVID", but if I had to guess, the latter group is in the 30 to 40% area. It's complicated because if someone is experiencing dizzy spells and mild breathing problems, then the COVID diagnosis suddenly explains a lot, but that may not have been why they ended up in hospital - they may have taken a fall down some stairs and ended up as a 999 case. So separating this all out is problematic and unhelpful.

DaveS Aug 26, 2021 9:16 am

Daily data:

Cases 38,281 (36,572 last Thursday)
Deaths 140 (113)
Patients admitted 818 (607 on the 15th)
Patients in hospital 6,906 (6,426 on the 18th)
Patients in ventilation beds 974 (909 on the 18th)
People vaccinated up to and including 25 August 2021:
First dose: 47,860,628
Second dose: 42,234,417

The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 11.1% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 14.2%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 110.0 today. Total number of jabs administered moved above 90 million yesterday. Daily jabs have been slowly rising since the start of the month, now averaging over 200,000 per day. 77.7% of those over 16 have now received both jabs.

DaveS Aug 26, 2021 10:47 am

Traffic light list update
 
From the Telegraph:

Seven countries have been added to the UK's green list and two countries are going on the red list, Grant Shapps has announced.

The Azores, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Liechtenstein, Switzerland and Lithuania have been upgraded from amber to green. There are no additions to the amber list.

Shapps also announced that Thailand and Montenegro will be downgraded to the red list. This means that arrivals from these countries face a mandatory ten-day hotel quarantine on return to England. Montenegro is the first European country to go red, after seeing a significant spike in Covid-19 cases.

The announcement dashes hopes that Turkey and Pakistan could move from the red list to the amber list.

The changes will come into effect from 4am on Monday, August 30.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/n...red-countries/

LGWClosedAgain Aug 26, 2021 12:54 pm

The traffic light system really is just a load of nonsense.

13901 Aug 26, 2021 1:09 pm

Still no changes for double vaccinated travellers coming from Green countries… no changes for places like SA or Turkey…

what a load of rubbish.

The _Banking_Scot Aug 27, 2021 6:51 am

Hi,

Another record day for Covid cases in Scotland

6,865

( 1,800 above the previous high)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58357346

Regards

TBS

Dan1113 Aug 27, 2021 7:15 am

Huge numbers. Jesus. And now the first mentions of a circuit breaker lockdown.

Ardecos Aug 27, 2021 8:07 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33523165)
Huge numbers. Jesus. And now the first mentions of a circuit breaker lockdown.

Stirred by the press and denied by the Scottish Government. We shall see.


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