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Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 11957372)
You're missing the point tho - IB is still in business. CLEAR is liquidating and they have far more personal data on you than IB could dream of with no plan or even inclination to protect that data.
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Originally Posted by Echo
(Post 11957346)
You've just made it clear you don't know what you're talking about. You should probably find another thread.
CLEAR paid for some of those resources, but we (taxpayers) subsidized through training, personnel, etc to have those areas manned - often separate from the general lines. You just haven't paid attention since you were so "special" as to bypass what everyone else had time to view while waiting their turn ;) |
Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 11957376)
A Clear member simply showed his pass and walked to the front of the line -- and proceeded to go through the same checkpoint as everyone else.
If I am waiting on that line, and you get in front of me, Clear has basically sold you my time. |
Originally Posted by Echo
(Post 11957385)
Honestly people. What evidence do you have that they have "no plan or even inclination" to protect that data? Post some facts if you have them.
Post some facts if you have them. I know, The Internet told you it was true; therefore it must be! |
Originally Posted by ufmiked
(Post 11957276)
Nearly every airline ticket is non-transferrable thus the airline is protecting themselves by checking your ID...
There is more to this than just revenue protection. Case in point - the TSA Secure Flight program soon to be implemented and sure enough soon to make the situation even worse. And how will that make us more secure? If they can force these ridiculous "aka security" checks on us, why don't they have the balls to enforce the "Expert Flyer" lanes? |
Originally Posted by ufmiked
(Post 11957276)
Nearly every airline ticket is non-transferrable thus the airline is protecting themselves by checking your ID. Know those nice low fares you find from time to time? Wouldn't it suck if they were all bought by scalpers and you had to deal with scalpers and agents to get an airline ticket? Because that's what happens the day you stop checking IDs.
... Funny, for a long term I didn't have to ID myself to travel by air, and don't recall the hordes of scalpers trying to sell me cheap future tickets. You also seem blissfully unaware of the earnest claims by TSA that security requires you know who you're dealing with and that their ID checks accomplish exactly that. (Of course they don't, but that's a topic for a different post/thread.) |
If my fingerprints hadn't already been in the government's hands, I would not have joined Clear. Since "iris prints" cannot be left at crime scenes, I had no problem giving my iris scan to them.
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Originally Posted by Echo
(Post 11957385)
Honestly people. What evidence do you have that they have "no plan or even inclination" to protect that data? Post some facts if you have them.
Yeah - lots of faith there for you to rely on. |
Originally Posted by Echo
(Post 11957385)
Honestly people. What evidence do you have that they have "no plan or even inclination" to protect that data? Post some facts if you have them.
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Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 11957396)
What assurances do you have that the data will be protected? :confused:
Post some facts if you have them. I know, The Internet told you it was true; therefore it must be! |
Everybody settle down, all of your personal information is as safe as it ever was.
The ONLY thing that Clear could provide to marketers, that is not already on the books elsewhere, is how often you travel AND how gullible you are. |
Originally Posted by Echo
(Post 11957442)
Here's where you're mistaken. It's everyone else making the claim that they are intentionally and maliciously handling and selling the data. I'm simply not feeding into silly alarmist behavior like so many on here.
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 11957433)
The company is liquidating - they are going away for good. Why do you think they spend money or resources to perpetually protect customer data? Where do you think those backup tapes will end up? Come on, it's common sense.
What you're calling "common sense" is just purely negative speculation. |
Originally Posted by GoingAway
(Post 11957445)
Just out of curiosity - have you read your agreement with them lately?
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Originally Posted by Echo
(Post 11957442)
Here's where you're mistaken. It's everyone else making the claim that they are intentionally and maliciously handling and selling the data. I'm simply not feeding into silly alarmist behavior like so many on here.
Are they selling the data to thieves? Who knows? Probably not, but they certainly haven't given people any reason to trust them as they couldn't even stay viable. |
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