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hoops7k May 25, 2009 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by DevilDog438 (Post 11802775)
I fill out the Customs form anyway, in case the machines are not working (as it will be required in that instance.

In two transits through IAD and one through ATL, I have never been hassled for any forms, merely presented my kiosk recent and sent on my way.

+1 at ord and lax. I have never been asked for it but always fill it out. The agent must have not been trained about GE properly.

spaceman May 25, 2009 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by Diplomatico (Post 11802409)
Agreed, this is awesome. I was through IAD today in less than two mins.

Question: do you or do you not have to fill out the paper customs declaration form when using GE? You answer the customs questions at the kiosk but the customs agent at the end of the hall seemed confused that I even used Global Entry and told me I still had to have a paper customs form. (This is contrary to the Customs and Border Protection website information that says you don't need a paper copy.)

Any recent experiences?

This is still a learning process for CBP. When it first started they looked like the village idiot when I showed them the slip and then the next time they demanded the customs declaration form. 4th time through the agent tore up my declaration and told me - NOT REQUIRED.

SashaNYC May 25, 2009 10:10 pm

I had a similar experience when arriving at JFK earlier this evening. Successfully completed the kiosk process, retrieved my receipt and proceeded to the customs exit (no checked baggage). The agent asked me for my customs form even after I showed him my Global Entry receipt, and told me to "have a customs form every time." Hopefully these glitches will occur less frequently with time.

wxguy May 26, 2009 10:57 am


Originally Posted by SashaNYC (Post 11804325)
I had a similar experience when arriving at JFK earlier this evening. Successfully completed the kiosk process, retrieved my receipt and proceeded to the customs exit (no checked baggage). The agent asked me for my customs form even after I showed him my Global Entry receipt, and told me to "have a customs form every time." Hopefully these glitches will occur less frequently with time.

The next time that happens, ask the officer to find an Internet connection and download/read http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/...y_pamphlet.pdf that says,
"You will be required to answer the Customs Declaration questions presented on the kiosk; however, you will not need to complete the Customs Declaration Form (CBP 6059B) before arrival."

goaliemn May 26, 2009 12:30 pm

That is the one thing I wish they'd add to nexus.. not having to fill out those blue forms :(

izzik May 26, 2009 2:34 pm

Just used Global Entry at ORD yesterday -- no line at the kiosk, no waiting .. took all of 3 minutes. ^ Totally worth the application process.

chanp May 28, 2009 2:33 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 11808248)
Just used Global Entry at ORD yesterday -- no line at the kiosk, no waiting .. took all of 3 minutes. ^ Totally worth the application process.

I just applied tonight, hoping for experiences like yours!

drummingcraig Jun 1, 2009 10:26 pm

Not at SFO yet.
 

Originally Posted by colevalleytim (Post 11798286)
Is this system up and running at SFO?

As of 6/1/09...not in place at SFO. No sign at all of any kiosks or any signage. Made me feel better about missing my interview at ORD on my outbound connection.

Ari Jun 1, 2009 11:43 pm


Originally Posted by drummingcraig (Post 11841449)
As of 6/1/09...not in place at SFO. No sign at all of any kiosks or any signage. Made me feel better about missing my interview at ORD on my outbound connection.

Unless there is someone guarding it, using the CREW line seems to work just fine for me when there are no GE kiosks available.

The times I have gone through non-kiosk immigration after getting GE, I get asked no questions. I guess Trusted Traveler status shows up when the scan the passport. Usually I at least get a "what was the purpose of your trip" or "did you buy anything while abroad". Now, nothing. A belabored "welcome home" maybe.

drummingcraig Jun 1, 2009 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 11841697)
The times I have gone through non-kiosk immigration after getting GE, I get asked no questions. I guess Trusted Traveler status shows up when the scan the passport. Usually I at least get a "what was the purpose of your trip" or "did you buy anything while abroad". Now, nothing. A belabored "welcome home" maybe.

You know, when I went thru yesterday I noticed that the woman who processed me seemed to ask multiple questions of two people who she handled prior to me. When I got up there, she scanned my passport, asked me if I had anything to declare (to which of course I answered "no") and I was thru with a "welcome home" and a smile. I wondered if perhaps even though I haven't officially completed the GE process, if there wasn't already something in my "file".

Ari Jun 1, 2009 11:59 pm

[QUOTE=stimpy;11783132]Huh? According to http://www.schiphol.com/AtSchiphol/P...terPrivium.htm

What's the porblem? :confused:

You can sign-up for FLUX which includes both:


Who can apply for FLUX?
  • You are a US or Dutch citizen and aged 14 years or older.
  • You hold a valid US or Dutch passport (persons added to someone else’s passport cannot apply).
  • consent to background screening by both the American and Dutch authorities.
  • You wish to join both Privium and Global Entry.

See: https://www.flux-alliance.eu/signup_procedure/signup/


My read of the rules is that you are eligible for FLUX. Am I wrong?

Ari Jun 2, 2009 12:03 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 11783132)
Huh? According to http://www.schiphol.com/AtSchiphol/P...terPrivium.htm

Who can join Privium?
You can become a Privium member if you:

- are in possession of a passport from one of the countries in the European Economic Area (EEA) or Switzerland.


I live in Europe, but am a US citizen so it seems I can't be a member of either program. :(


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 11783980)
Sorry, to be more clear I can't sign up for it remotely. And the only airport I visit in the US is LAX which doesn't seem to have Global Entry. I don't know if it is possible or not as an American living abroad.

1) There is GE at LAX
2) You can apply as a US Citizen living abroad. (Only US Permanent residents have to prove they live in the USA).
3) You can sign-up for FLUX which includes both:


Who can apply for FLUX?
  • You are a US or Dutch citizen and aged 14 years or older.
  • You hold a valid US or Dutch passport (persons added to someone else’s passport cannot apply).
  • You must consent to background screening by both the American and Dutch authorities.
  • You wish to join both Privium and Global Entry.

See: https://www.flux-alliance.eu/signup_procedure/signup/

My read of the rules is that you are eligible for FLUX. Am I wrong? What's the porblem? :confused:

stimpy Jun 2, 2009 2:16 am


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 11841731)
You can sign-up for FLUX which includes both:

See: https://www.flux-alliance.eu/signup_procedure/signup/

My read of the rules is that you are eligible for FLUX. Am I wrong?

No, it seems you are right! I can't sign up for Privium directly, but I can get it anyways with Flux. And GOES as well! I just did the application so I'll see what happens. I got an email response saying it will take up to 6 weeks to process and to follow "this link" for status. However there is no link in the email. :rolleyes:

It seems to say I can pick up my GOES card at Schiphol, but I'll believe that when I see it!

goaliemn Jun 2, 2009 8:24 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 11842022)
It seems to say I can pick up my GOES card at Schiphol, but I'll believe that when I see it!

There isn't a GOES card. Nexus has a card, but Global Entry does not.

ESpen36 Jun 2, 2009 8:24 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 11842022)
No, it seems you are right! I can't sign up for Privium directly, but I can get it anyways with Flux. And GOES as well! I just did the application so I'll see what happens. I got an email response saying it will take up to 6 weeks to process and to follow "this link" for status. However there is no link in the email. :rolleyes:

It seems to say I can pick up my GOES card at Schiphol, but I'll believe that when I see it!


As a reminder, GOES is not a trusted traveler program, nor a "card." GOES is simply a web-based application system that you can use to apply for various trusted traveler programs, including GlobalEntry, NEXUS, SENTRI, and FAST.


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