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flyquiet Mar 12, 2013 8:16 pm

American citizens on American soil are only American. They do not require citizens to rescind other citizenships but they don't give any consideration to any other citizenship.

I definitely wouldn't want to have to deal with the fury of CBP if one had a US passport and did not use it.

My 9 year old daughter (born in USA, Canadian through me and residing in Canada since age 18 months, and with only a Canadian passport) was chewed out on her way to Walt Disney World by Eagle Badge Woman (at immigration at MCO because the stupid charter we were on did not preclear at YYZ) for not having a US passport because "it is the best passport in the world and it is your right to have it". She was petrified because she thought she was going to be arrested.

PhotoJim Mar 13, 2013 9:10 am


Originally Posted by whynot75 (Post 20395191)
Thanks for the info

How long you had to wait to receive your card ?

I'm not sure exactly - we spent the next two weeks in New Brunswick. Our cards were there when we got home.

B1 Mar 13, 2013 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by flyquiet (Post 20409631)
....My 9 year old daughter (born in USA, Canadian through me and residing in Canada since age 18 months, and with only a Canadian passport)

The Canadian passport lists the place of birth. Since your daughter was born in the US, the officials expect to see a US passpport for US citizens when entering the US. If the person is a US citizen then they are required to show a US passport or provide evidence that US citizenship has been renounced (and prepare for more questions). Entering Canada as a Candian citizen similarly requires a Canadian passport.

ncncyoo Mar 13, 2013 1:06 pm

Using Nexus in YYZ with kids.
 
Hello.I would to know is anyone try use their Nexus /GE(adults) with kids 8yrs old(no GE.no iris scan and fingerprints yet) using special service or crew lane .However, CBP still request you to show your passports in most airport. ? Is this normal because we cannot use GE machine until fingerprinted. Thanks

flyquiet Mar 13, 2013 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by B1 (Post 20413265)
The Canadian passport lists the place of birth. Since your daughter was born in the US, the officials expect to see a US passpport for US citizens when entering the US. If the person is a US citizen then they are required to show a US passport or provide evidence that US citizenship has been renounced (and prepare for more questions). Entering Canada as a Candian citizen similarly requires a Canadian passport.

This is exactly what worries me (on her behalf - she is now 17 and will soon be able to travel solo). She travels with her US birth certificate as well as the Canadian passport. Thus she is able to prove US citizenship. I agree with you that this is their implicit expectation but I have not seen them say "it must be a US passport". Their view likely is that there are no other passports so it need not be stated. I want them to state it explicitly before I will pay for two passports.

Mr Flyquiet was also born in the USA and he doesn't travel with his birth certificate. He simply shows the Canadian passport, says he is Canadian and lives in "Tronna". Once, they gave him a 6 month visitor visa stamp and I said "you must be the first US citizen with a visitor visa" and he looked at me like "shut up!". But I predict that someday it will be him that mouths off at a CBP guy that gets him in trouble!

rehoult Mar 13, 2013 4:59 pm


Originally Posted by flyquiet (Post 20414762)
This is exactly what worries me (on her behalf - she is now 17 and will soon be able to travel solo). She travels with her US birth certificate as well as the Canadian passport. Thus she is able to prove US citizenship. I agree with you that this is their implicit expectation but I have not seen them say "it must be a US passport". Their view likely is that there are no other passports so it need not be stated. I want them to state it explicitly before I will pay for two passports.

Mr Flyquiet was also born in the USA and he doesn't travel with his birth certificate. He simply shows the Canadian passport, says he is Canadian and lives in "Tronna". Once, they gave him a 6 month visitor visa stamp and I said "you must be the first US citizen with a visitor visa" and he looked at me like "shut up!". But I predict that someday it will be him that mouths off at a CBP guy that gets him in trouble!

You don't have to have the passport, you just have to present yourself as an American. US Birth certificate (to prove citizenship) w/ Canadian passport (to prove identity) is fine. They can't deny her if they agree she's American, so unless they are calling her birth certificate a forgery they have to let her in. Though they don't have to be happy about that fact.

Sopwith Mar 13, 2013 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by flyquiet (Post 20409631)
a US passport because "it is the best passport in the world and it is your right to have it". She was petrified because she thought she was going to be arrested.

Please...there are a few places I can think of where I wouldn't want to be caught carrying a US passport if I had a choice. A Canadian passport might not be great in such places, but it would probably be better than a US one.

flyquiet Mar 13, 2013 7:47 pm

Thanks for validating my distaste for Eagle Badge Lady (and her colleagues). The line between national security and tourism appeal doesn't have to be as fine as they make it.

NA-Flyer Mar 14, 2013 1:01 am


Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 20415448)
Please...there are a few places I can think of where I wouldn't want to be caught carrying a US passport if I had a choice. A Canadian passport might not be great in such places, but it would probably be better than a US one.

I 100% agree with above and this is why I always carry my CAN/US passports while traveling overseas.

Chiro1979 Mar 14, 2013 8:06 am

Has anyone had issues trying to web check in with a NEXUS card? The last three times I have flown and tried to web check in it wouldn't allow me to do so and tells me to see an agent at the airport for document authentication. This is usually not an issue if I have a bag to check in anyways, but tomorrow I have carry on only and wanted to print my boarding pass. Sure enough, once again it wouldn't let me check in. I phoned reservations and they couldn't figure out what was wrong. Finally I asked them to delete my NEXUS info and to use my passport to check in and then the system let me check in and print my boarding pass. Just curious if anyone else has faced similar issues. Thanks!

astroflyer Mar 14, 2013 8:49 am


Originally Posted by Chiro1979 (Post 20417942)
Has anyone had issues trying to web check in with a NEXUS card? The last three times I have flown and tried to web check in it wouldn't allow me to do so and tells me to see an agent at the airport for document authentication. This is usually not an issue if I have a bag to check in anyways, but tomorrow I have carry on only and wanted to print my boarding pass. Sure enough, once again it wouldn't let me check in. I phoned reservations and they couldn't figure out what was wrong. Finally I asked them to delete my NEXUS info and to use my passport to check in and then the system let me check in and print my boarding pass. Just curious if anyone else has faced similar issues. Thanks!

From what I understand, a Nexus card is insufficient for air travel. There are some slightly complicated sounding rules, but I think you pretty much always need a passport for crossing the border by air.

xero9 Mar 14, 2013 8:51 am

Air Canada I'm guessing?

On page 409, canadiancow mentions that you shouldn't put your NEXUS number in the advance passenger info, and to only do it during the actual check-in process.

Is there any reason why one wouldn't just put the passport number in to begin with? I would assume you could use your passport number, check-in online, and simply use your NEXUS card for all ID checks along the way.

Chiro1979 Mar 14, 2013 9:59 am


Originally Posted by xero9 (Post 20418196)
Air Canada I'm guessing?

On page 409, canadiancow mentions that you shouldn't put your NEXUS number in the advance passenger info, and to only do it during the actual check-in process.

Is there any reason why one wouldn't just put the passport number in to begin with? I would assume you could use your passport number, check-in online, and simply use your NEXUS card for all ID checks along the way.

Yes that's what I will do from now on. I usually check in from work and have my nexus card on my so it was just easier for me to input that number rather than my passport which I rarely carry. I was just curious why it as causing an issue. But thanks for your reply! :-)

xero9 Mar 14, 2013 10:14 am

np Chiro :)

That explains why you chose NEXUS over the passport!

Our of curiosity.. For the advanced passenger info had you previously had your NEXUS info in there, or was it actually your passport info? From the page I mentioned it should be possible at the time of purchase (likely when you're at home) to enter your passport details, and then when you go to check-in online at work use your NEXUS info.

Do let me know if that is actually what you did. I'm looking at possibly flying to Florida on Air Canada soon and wondering if I'm going to have trouble or not (I too will likely check-in from work).

Thanks!

canadiancow Mar 14, 2013 10:47 am


Originally Posted by xero9 (Post 20418196)
Air Canada I'm guessing?

On page 409, canadiancow mentions that you shouldn't put your NEXUS number in the advance passenger info, and to only do it during the actual check-in process.

Is there any reason why one wouldn't just put the passport number in to begin with? I would assume you could use your passport number, check-in online, and simply use your NEXUS card for all ID checks along the way.

This. I don't know why it works that way, but it does.

I prefer putting NEXUS in because I'm assuming that it makes it less likely to get SSSS or other things like that. Checking in with NEXUS tells anyone looking at my file that I am a trusted traveler.

Maybe it doesn't do anything for me now, and maybe it never will, but as long as it doesn't inconvenience me, I'm going to keep doing it :)


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