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yyzvoyageur Sep 6, 2010 6:08 am


Originally Posted by B-Plus (Post 14608376)
So I'm wondering that since I've been through several times without any mention of my false declaration, maybe they didn't bother enter into the system or I still somehow have some hope of being approved?

If the BSF156 was all you received and you were not given a Notice of Violation stating that you were being charged a penalty under the Agriculture and Agri-Food Administrative Monetary Penalties Act, there was no enforcement action and I'd wager your application would not be denied based solely on that one incident. It's worth $50 to give it a shot, isn't it?

LessO2 Sep 6, 2010 9:51 am


Originally Posted by unavaca (Post 14607935)
Blarg. How long does the conditional approval last for? I might be back in YYZ or SEA in a few months, but none of it is planned yet.

I think the conditional approval lasts for 30 days. Meaning you need to schedule an appointment within 30 days. If you schedule somewhere like Toronto or Vancouver, the actual appointment might be much longer (read up in this thread and see what others' experiences have been).

However, the beauty of the GOES system is that you can go back in and check to see where there have been cancellations, as they happen all the time.

You can obviously get everything taken care of in Toronto, but I don't know if you can get the iris scan thing done in Seattle.

Just want to say good luck, we're all counting on you.



Originally Posted by unavaca (Post 14607935)
Thanks Shirley.

And don't call me Shirley.

LessO2 Sep 6, 2010 9:58 am


Originally Posted by B-Plus (Post 14608376)
I'm planning to call the CBSA this week to try to get a general feel for this issue before applying, but I just wanted to see if the braintrust here knows if this would warrant an automatic denial.

In February of this year, I had mistakenly made a false declaration, as I had some kind of simulated pork-flavoured snack from Japan (it was a gift, I wasn't planning to eat it, and I forgot to throw it away - oops) in my luggage. Well, I was searched and they found this item and after a lengthy delay of supposedly having the packaging translated, I was written up on Form BSF156. The Refusal Reason was Prohibited Under Regulations and the Action Taken was Seized and Destroyed.

I have since re-entered Canada on numerous occasions without any further hassles. According to the "I Declare" guide,

A record of infractions is kept in the CBSA computer system. If you have an infraction record, you may have to undergo a more detailed examination on future trips. You may also become ineligible for the NEXUS and CANPASS programs.

So I'm wondering that since I've been through several times without any mention of my false declaration, maybe they didn't bother enter into the system or I still somehow have some hope of being approved?

Thank you

I would stop by a NEXUS office and ask them.

I had an "oopsie" with the US CBP many years ago with Cuban Cigars, made me fill out a form, and they enjoyed them the following weekend destroyed them.

Technically, I "voluntarily surrendered" them. I get the feeling you might have done the equivalent with the Canadians. But, again, you might want to walk into a NEXUS office and ask the Canadians about your situation. I declared my indiscretion on the form, everything went fine and I got NEXUS.

unavaca Sep 6, 2010 10:25 am


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 14610380)
I think the conditional approval lasts for 30 days. Meaning you need to schedule an appointment within 30 days. If you schedule somewhere like Toronto or Vancouver, the actual appointment might be much longer (read up in this thread and see what others' experiences have been).

However, the beauty of the GOES system is that you can go back in and check to see where there have been cancellations, as they happen all the time.

You can obviously get everything taken care of in Toronto, but I don't know if you can get the iris scan thing done in Seattle.

So I could theoretically schedule an appointment at Toronto for 6 months out, as long as I do it within the first 6 months? Also, what's the turnaround time for conditional approval? A few days? 2 weeks?

Does anyone have access to GOES and can see how long the wait time is for an appointment at YUL?

B1 Sep 6, 2010 11:12 am

1. If you have a NEXUS card and are a US citizen or permanent resident, then Global Entry for the US is free. So for $50 you get both for five years. If you start with Global Entry for $100, they still charge you for NEXUS. Is that fair?

2. While NEXUS is excellent, yesterday I crossed into Canada at Fort Erie and there was no waiting in any lane so I went to a regular lane (no TDC is necessary that way). Arriving at the wicket with passports in my hand, the agent said, "Where you from". I responded. He ignored the passports and asked what we had spent and when we had left. And then he said "Go ahead." Which is the way it should be.

LessO2 Sep 6, 2010 11:49 am


Originally Posted by unavaca (Post 14610530)
So I could theoretically schedule an appointment at Toronto for 6 months out, as long as I do it within the first 6 months? Also, what's the turnaround time for conditional approval? A few days? 2 weeks?

Does anyone have access to GOES and can see how long the wait time is for an appointment at YUL?

No, you need to schedule the appointment within 30 days.

The wait for the next available appointment might be (more like is likely) more than 30 days out.

"Access to GOES" is subjective. Your unique ID number provides access to the scheduling availability. Still, there may be an FTer who is in this limited group. Maybe you can call them in Montreal to find out.

unavaca Sep 6, 2010 11:51 am


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 14610920)
No, you need to schedule the appointment within 30 days.

The wait for the next available appointment might be (more like is likely) more than 30 days out.

Ah okay. And if I need to cancel the appointment and reschedule, does the rescheduled appointment have to be made within the first 30 days, or can it be made anytime up to the point of my original appointment?

B-Plus Sep 6, 2010 4:02 pm

yycvoyageur and LessO2 - Thanks for your thoughts. I just didn't want to waste $50 if this was an obvious denial. I'll call Nexus tomorrow to discuss this issue. So should I disclose this "oopsie" on my application? On one hand, I think full disclosure would be better, especially if they have this information on file, but on the other hand, if they don't have a record of this, I wouldn't want to raise any flags.

LessO2 Sep 6, 2010 4:45 pm


Originally Posted by unavaca (Post 14610927)
Ah okay. And if I need to cancel the appointment and reschedule, does the rescheduled appointment have to be made within the first 30 days, or can it be made anytime up to the point of my original appointment?

That I don't know. Gut feel is that you should be okay.

LessO2 Sep 6, 2010 4:48 pm


Originally Posted by B-Plus (Post 14611998)
yycvoyageur and LessO2 - Thanks for your thoughts. I just didn't want to waste $50 if this was an obvious denial. I'll call Nexus tomorrow to discuss this issue. So should I disclose this "oopsie" on my application? On one hand, I think full disclosure would be better, especially if they have this information on file, but on the other hand, if they don't have a record of this, I wouldn't want to raise any flags.

I mentioned my indiscretion on my application, never heard about it in the approval or interview processes.

Remember, this is a trusted traveler program. If they don't trust you being honest on your application, they should reject you.

Just be honest. I am not guaranteeing anything, but honesty is the best policy here.

B-Plus Sep 6, 2010 6:22 pm

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Originally Posted by LessO2

Originally Posted by B-Plus (Post 14611998)
yycvoyageur and LessO2 - Thanks for your thoughts. I just didn't want to waste $50 if this was an obvious denial. I'll call Nexus tomorrow to discuss this issue. So should I disclose this "oopsie" on my application? On one hand, I think full disclosure would be better, especially if they have this information on file, but on the other hand, if they don't have a record of this, I wouldn't want to raise any flags.

I mentioned my indiscretion on my application, never heard about it in the approval or interview processes.

Remember, this is a trusted traveler program. If they don't trust you being honest on your application, they should reject you.

Just be honest. I am not guaranteeing anything, but honesty is the best policy here.

You are absolutely correct. Thanks for setting me straight! I'll report back when I find out.

NA-Flyer Sep 14, 2010 10:05 am

Some where in the LX forum someone mentioned that he heard that Canadians are also becoming eligiable for GOES card :confused: Is that true or confirmed by anyone ?

InTheAirGuy Sep 15, 2010 6:43 am

Last night at T1 arriving about 8pm, the upstairs escalator hallway was jam packed with about 500 people; holding people back from going downstairs because the customs hall was so busy...

But someone asked about Nexus, and the GTAA lady said, "sure, Nexus folks can come on through."

Former PM Joe Clark was in the mix, was on my flight. He mentioned to folks around him, "Geez, never have got myself a Nexus, maybe its time to get one...."

LessO2 Sep 15, 2010 10:49 am


Originally Posted by InTheAirGuy (Post 14660631)
Last night at T1 arriving about 8pm, the upstairs escalator hallway was jam packed with about 500 people; holding people back from going downstairs because the customs hall was so busy...

But someone asked about Nexus, and the GTAA lady said, "sure, Nexus folks can come on through."

Good to know. This happened to me once about three months ago, around 4:30 p.m. The wait was about five minutes. Didn't know mentioning NEXUS got us through.

emcampbe Sep 15, 2010 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by LH/LX (Post 14656089)
Some where in the LX forum someone mentioned that he heard that Canadians are also becoming eligiable for GOES card :confused: Is that true or confirmed by anyone ?

Not sure what a GOES card is:confused: GOES is a website where you apply for trusted traveler programs.

Referring to Global Entry I assume. Can you post a specific link about the rumor on Canadians?


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