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mplflyer Sep 23, 2010 11:41 pm


Originally Posted by unavaca (Post 14767571)
Thanks the datapoint. Any chance you can check earliest available appointment at YUL?

Sorry, I logged back into site for you and I could probably check by going into the reschedule option, BUT the wording of the US gov't warnings as to unauthorized uploading of info, etc (you have to "consent" to enter) scared me off:(. Hopefully you'll get your email soon or maybe someone braver than I can help you.

Z-man Sep 24, 2010 12:22 am

Nexus bends you over for the pass, that is why I have CanPass. They don't neeed much, not even a fingerprint. And to be honest, any Canadian travelling to the US (like me), you leave the office 3 hours ahead of time to make sure you clear customs, but on the way home you want to get back to your family so you want CanPass. Some days you get lucky and clear customers ex-canada and spend time in the lounge. no Canadian should have Nexxus as far as Im concerned.
you dont want to give all that info to the Americasn

LessO2 Sep 24, 2010 7:40 am


Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 14771472)
Nexus bends you over for the pass, that is why I have CanPass. They don't neeed much, not even a fingerprint. And to be honest, any Canadian travelling to the US (like me), you leave the office 3 hours ahead of time to make sure you clear customs, but on the way home you want to get back to your family so you want CanPass. Some days you get lucky and clear customers ex-canada and spend time in the lounge. no Canadian should have Nexxus as far as Im concerned.
you dont want to give all that info to the Americasn

I agree with the sentiment about too much personal information being out there.

However, if you think Americans know nothing about you already, you're sorely mistaken.

CP@YOW Sep 24, 2010 10:43 am


Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 14771472)
Nexus bends you over for the pass, that is why I have CanPass. They don't neeed much, not even a fingerprint. And to be honest, any Canadian travelling to the US (like me), you leave the office 3 hours ahead of time to make sure you clear customs, but on the way home you want to get back to your family so you want CanPass. Some days you get lucky and clear customers ex-canada and spend time in the lounge. no Canadian should have Nexxus as far as Im concerned.
you dont want to give all that info to the Americasn

It's not just about the time savings. Personally, I feel more violated having to explain/justify each trip to a border agent and deal with their attitude than I do in having to give some personal information to the U.S. during the Nexus application process, particularly when it's quite likely that they have the information already.

royalflight Sep 25, 2010 7:20 am

Global Entry Question
 
I am a nexus member with dual Canadian U.S. citizenship. I attempted to apply through GOES for the Global Entry program. According to the CBP website Nexus and Sentri members upon submission of the Global Entry Program application "if your passport and fingerprint information are already on file, your Global Entry application will automatically be approved."

Throughout the application process it kept saying that this or that document must be taken when you go to your interview. Why would I be going to an interview since I have already gone through that with Nexus? It also wanted an address in the U.S. if I am not a U.S. resident (I am a Canadian resident so I don't have any U.S. address to give). On the last page of the form, it said I made something like 12 errors. I tried to correct them, but these so-called errors had to do with documents already in their files, as well as my failure to have a U.S. address. I couldn't seem to correct the errors so I cancelled the application. I would rarely enter the U.S. from overseas anyway so I don't think it is worth all the hassle.

Has any other U.S. citizen on this board tried to enrol via GOES for Global Entry? Just curious if you had the same problems.

emcampbe Sep 25, 2010 10:34 am


Originally Posted by royalflight (Post 14785298)
I am a nexus member with dual Canadian U.S. citizenship. I attempted to apply through GOES for the Global Entry program. According to the CBP website Nexus and Sentri members upon submission of the Global Entry Program application "if your passport and fingerprint information are already on file, your Global Entry application will automatically be approved."

Throughout the application process it kept saying that this or that document must be taken when you go to your interview. Why would I be going to an interview since I have already gone through that with Nexus? It also wanted an address in the U.S. if I am not a U.S. resident (I am a Canadian resident so I don't have any U.S. address to give). On the last page of the form, it said I made something like 12 errors. I tried to correct them, but these so-called errors had to do with documents already in their files, as well as my failure to have a U.S. address. I couldn't seem to correct the errors so I cancelled the application. I would rarely enter the U.S. from overseas anyway so I don't think it is worth all the hassle.

Has any other U.S. citizen on this board tried to enrol via GOES for Global Entry? Just curious if you had the same problems.

For the interview: As I recall, Nexus only requires one fingerprint, while GE requires either all four or those plus a thumb. Unless they have that on file already, you need to go in person to get those biometrics on file. As for your passport info and documents already on file that you have to bring in, I suspect they want to verify them, and that Nexus and GE may actually put them in different systems. For example, for GE, you actually need to have your passport scanned and looked up upon entry at the machines you go to, and they may not be able to (or are unwilling to) add that to the system that looks it up when you arrive in the US. Don't forget - Nexus is a US/Canada joint program and GE is US only - I wouldn't assume they are tightly integrated. As well, this is gov't - and with them, the assumption that the left hand and right hand know what each other is doing is usually a bad one.

I just opened up an application, and I fail to see where you need to enter a US address. It does ask for an address (mine auto-fills with my Canadian, and there is room for a country), but I don't see where the requirement for a US address is.

EnvoyBoy Sep 25, 2010 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by royalflight (Post 14785298)
I am a nexus member with dual Canadian U.S. citizenship. I attempted to apply through GOES for the Global Entry program. According to the CBP website Nexus and Sentri members upon submission of the Global Entry Program application "if your passport and fingerprint information are already on file, your Global Entry application will automatically be approved."

Throughout the application process it kept saying that this or that document must be taken when you go to your interview. Why would I be going to an interview since I have already gone through that with Nexus? It also wanted an address in the U.S. if I am not a U.S. resident (I am a Canadian resident so I don't have any U.S. address to give). On the last page of the form, it said I made something like 12 errors. I tried to correct them, but these so-called errors had to do with documents already in their files, as well as my failure to have a U.S. address. I couldn't seem to correct the errors so I cancelled the application. I would rarely enter the U.S. from overseas anyway so I don't think it is worth all the hassle.

Has any other U.S. citizen on this board tried to enrol via GOES for Global Entry? Just curious if you had the same problems.

I applied for GOES after I had my NEXUS card. The entire thing was done online. I never had to go anywhere for interview or anything else.

B1 Sep 25, 2010 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by EnvoyBoy (Post 14788427)
I applied for GOES after I had my NEXUS card. The entire thing was done online. I never had to go anywhere for interview or anything else.

GOES is the uniform information portal and is not GE (this is mentioned in earlier posts). An interview is required for GE while on line access is what GOES is about. It is easy to schedule the interview for GE. GE includes the Netherlands (only to enter Schipol AMS but there is a very substantial extra annual fee that includes lounge access. GE in the US is for entering by air from places beyond Canada.

EnvoyBoy Sep 25, 2010 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by B1 (Post 14790651)
GOES is the uniform information portal and is not GE (this is mentioned in earlier posts). An interview is required for GE while on line access is what GOES is about. It is easy to schedule the interview for GE. GE includes the Netherlands (only to enter Schipol AMS but there is a very substantial extra annual fee that includes lounge access. GE in the US is for entering by air from places beyond Canada.

My apologies for not being clear. For me (and I'm only speaking to my own experience), it would seem whatever interview and clearance that was necessary for NEXUS was sufficient for Global Entry. I completed the GE process and was notified of approval all online with no need for any additional steps (e.g. GE-specific interview) on my part.

royalflight Sep 26, 2010 7:46 am


Originally Posted by EnvoyBoy (Post 14791856)
My apologies for not being clear. For me (and I'm only speaking to my own experience), it would seem whatever interview and clearance that was necessary for NEXUS was sufficient for Global Entry. I completed the GE process and was notified of approval all online with no need for any additional steps (e.g. GE-specific interview) on my part.

That was my understanding, that once you have been approved for Nexus, all you needed to do was apply on-line via GOES for automatic approval for GE. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong in filling out the form, because I shouldn't have to go through a second interview since my full fingerprints were taken during my interview with the U.S. CBP officials as well as having my U.S. and Canadian Passports entered into the system. Perhaps when I have time I'll try it again.

emcampbe Sep 26, 2010 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by royalflight (Post 14794657)
That was my understanding, that once you have been approved for Nexus, all you needed to do was apply on-line via GOES for automatic approval for GE. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong in filling out the form, because I shouldn't have to go through a second interview since my full fingerprints were taken during my interview with the U.S. CBP officials as well as having my U.S. and Canadian Passports entered into the system. Perhaps when I have time I'll try it again.

I haven't tried applying for GE yet, so I'm not exactly clear on the process, but I definitely didn't get all my fingerprints scanned when enrolling in Nexus, I think only one on each hand, but perhaps the Nexus enrollment process has changed in this regard when I went through it three years ago. From what I understand, GE requires additional biometrics that Nexus members haven't necessarily submitted, and if this is the case, then you will be required to go to a GE office. In addition, I believe you need to get a sticker on your US passport. I'm not sure if they do anything else with it.

B1 Sep 26, 2010 7:20 pm

I am a Nexus member and was later offered GE at no additional charge. This required a second interview at a US location that was not a Nexus location (they hadn't even heard of Nexus in the Texas office I went to). They added a sticker "CBP" above the bar code on the inside back cover of the passport. I was told that the sticker allows entry to the GE line. Is the separate process now done at Nexus locations and in the course of the Nexus interview?

emcampbe Sep 26, 2010 7:55 pm


Originally Posted by B1 (Post 14801632)
I am a Nexus member and was later offered GE at no additional charge. This required a second interview at a US location that was not a Nexus location (they hadn't even heard of Nexus in the Texas office I went to). They added a sticker "CBP" above the bar code on the inside back cover of the passport. I was told that the sticker allows entry to the GE line. Is the separate process now done at Nexus locations and in the course of the Nexus interview?

No, definitely not. Actually, I was in a Nexus office to ask about it, and the officer I was speaking to (Canadian) had no idea about it. When I asked if I could speak to a US officer about it, was told that they wouldn't know much more since they don't do GE there. It's only done in the US since it is strictly a US-based program, and since there is pre-clearance in Canada, most people at YYZ, YUL, YVR, etc. wouldn't need it anyway.

mattm00se Sep 27, 2010 11:57 am


Originally Posted by B1 (Post 14801632)
I am a Nexus member and was later offered GE at no additional charge. This required a second interview at a US location that was not a Nexus location (they hadn't even heard of Nexus in the Texas office I went to). They added a sticker "CBP" above the bar code on the inside back cover of the passport. I was told that the sticker allows entry to the GE line. Is the separate process now done at Nexus locations and in the course of the Nexus interview?

GE does not require an interview for travellers who have already been approved for Nexus, as long as you apply through GOES. Your GE is typically active within 24-72 hours (using the fingerprints on file from your nexus approval) - however, you still have to stop by a GE office to pickup a sticker for your passport, but you can use the machines as soon as GOES shows you as approved.

unavaca Sep 27, 2010 12:52 pm

First available at YUL is 12/27. Ugh. I will be there in a few weeks and there are no appointments available. Do enrollment centers usually have last minute cancellations?


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