TSA Precheck - Decline in
#16
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: AA EXP, DL FO, UA Silver, SPG Plat, Hyatt Diamond, Avis Pres Club
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http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...k-eligibility/
http://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-N...le-of-airlines
http://thepointsguy.com/2015/04/want...ntry-or-clear/
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/tsa-lim...861974952.html
Additionally, many received emails regarding this.
I personally went the GE route and highly recommend it, but also wanted to add Nexus, in case you are near the Canadian border. This will get you easy entry in/out of Canada, is much cheaper than GE, and also gets you GE and PreCheck. But you can only enroll at the Canadian border.
#17
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Well except LAS, it seems like everyone & their mother gets pre check there. Though I am glad they are kicking frequent flyer program members out. You want pre check buy pre check. I had to (via global entry) best $100 I ever spent, extremely fast reentry into the USA, and I am 100% on pre check ever since having global entry. (I was 0% on DL frequent flyer program)
#18
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https://pro.delta.com/content/deltap...nt-change.html
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...k-eligibility/
http://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-N...le-of-airlines
http://thepointsguy.com/2015/04/want...ntry-or-clear/
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/tsa-lim...861974952.html
Additionally, many received emails regarding this.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...k-eligibility/
http://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-N...le-of-airlines
http://thepointsguy.com/2015/04/want...ntry-or-clear/
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/tsa-lim...861974952.html
Additionally, many received emails regarding this.
Unless the OP is asserting this is something unique to Delta it doesn't belong in this forum but instead in the Travel safety/security forums:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-security-222/
#19
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Its just another way for TSA to get money and justify their existence. Don't know about GlobalEntry, but the Pre application process is a joke. Fill out the form/questions online, then set up the 'interview' which consists of verifying the questions you already answered and getting fingerprinted. No other actual behavioral questions or real interview.
Does GE do the same thing or do they actually ask something of substance?
Does GE do the same thing or do they actually ask something of substance?
#20
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Well there's the part where it's ridiculous in the first place to have to pay to avoid the TSA shoe carnival security farce.
If you are already receiving PreCheck and therefore have been previously determined by the TSA to not be a security threat, there doesn't seem to be a reason to have to pay to continue to receive the low-threat treatment. Remember, the program is about the government determining whether you are low-threat, and the fee theoretically covers the cost of that determination. This isn't supposed to be a money-grab.
If you are already receiving PreCheck and therefore have been previously determined by the TSA to not be a security threat, there doesn't seem to be a reason to have to pay to continue to receive the low-threat treatment. Remember, the program is about the government determining whether you are low-threat, and the fee theoretically covers the cost of that determination. This isn't supposed to be a money-grab.
Wife and I went ATL-SEA last week. Both of us have had Precheck for years due to status. On the outbound she got it, I didn't. Coming back we both got it. Not getting it was enough to convince me to pay to play, so I'll be doing that next week. Still can't figure out why they can pull all those people out of the regular line and run them through Precheck, however, without any sort of background check and not give it to me.
#21
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seattle
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its mostly a background check I believe. I'm happy with GE, and have gotten TSA pre without fail. I now get through immigration on arrival so fast I usually end up waiting 10-15 minutes on my bag in SEA.
#22
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Generally, I carry-on, so when I land, it typically takes me 15 minutes to get from the plane to landside. Worth.Every.Penny.
As has been pointed out, Amex reimburses GE fees for Platinum and Centurion card members, but some Visa products do also (the Ritz Carlton visa, I think and at least one other).
O/H
#23
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Its just another way for TSA to get money and justify their existence. Don't know about GlobalEntry, but the Pre application process is a joke. Fill out the form/questions online, then set up the 'interview' which consists of verifying the questions you already answered and getting fingerprinted. No other actual behavioral questions or real interview.
Does GE do the same thing or do they actually ask something of substance?
Does GE do the same thing or do they actually ask something of substance?
Most crimes and even some arrests will ban you. A DUI will ban you for years, maybe ever in Canada. Any problems with a border crossing (getting fined for forgetting to declare something) will be a showstopper.
We went for NEXUS, which cost abot $2,000. It was $50 each for the program and Amex reimbursed us $100 each.) but a room for 2 nights food at the 4 Seasons YVR, airfare, several hours of spa time, food plus entertainment pushed tha additional costs over the $50.
NEXUS allows one to enter Canada without talking to another human.
#24
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seattle
Programs: Delta DM; *A FO. UG since(1/1/15): 11/14
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This.
Generally, I carry-on, so when I land, it typically takes me 15 minutes to get from the plane to landside. Worth.Every.Penny.
As has been pointed out, Amex reimburses GE fees for Platinum and Centurion card members, but some Visa products do also (the Ritz Carlton visa, I think and at least one other).
O/H
Generally, I carry-on, so when I land, it typically takes me 15 minutes to get from the plane to landside. Worth.Every.Penny.
As has been pointed out, Amex reimburses GE fees for Platinum and Centurion card members, but some Visa products do also (the Ritz Carlton visa, I think and at least one other).
O/H
#25
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: DL 4MM; DM
Posts: 1,397
More discussion in this existing thread about PreCheck changes.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...e-changes.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...e-changes.html
#26
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Its just another way for TSA to get money and justify their existence. Don't know about GlobalEntry, but the Pre application process is a joke. Fill out the form/questions online, then set up the 'interview' which consists of verifying the questions you already answered and getting fingerprinted. No other actual behavioral questions or real interview.
Does GE do the same thing or do they actually ask something of substance?
Does GE do the same thing or do they actually ask something of substance?
#27
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: DTW
Programs: DM MM
Posts: 184
Would like to know where you experienced this. If you arrive by Air, you still have to talk with the immigration agent, NEXUS gets you the short line and also a very short discussion with quick to the point questions and a special card for customs inspection that usually gets you a wave by. By Land, you get to use the NEXUS lane (which is normally very short), scan your card, but still have to stop at the booth and answer 1-2 quick questions. Even if you arrive in your Boat and dock, you still have to call in and register.
#28
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Thread Alert
Because this discussion has virtually nothing to do with Delta Air Lines or the SkyMiles frequent flier loyalty program, the new home for this discussion is now the Trusted Travelers forum.
Regards,
Canarsie
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#29
Join Date: Nov 2012
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I got pre check today for the first time as a kettle, after never getting it as silver, gold, or platinum. I also applied for GE today (1AM) and got a conditional approval (9AM) in 8 hours, but haven't interviewed yet.
#30
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Meechigan
Posts: 1,006
Would like to know where you experienced this. If you arrive by Air, you still have to talk with the immigration agent, NEXUS gets you the short line and also a very short discussion with quick to the point questions and a special card for customs inspection that usually gets you a wave by. By Land, you get to use the NEXUS lane (which is normally very short), scan your card, but still have to stop at the booth and answer 1-2 quick questions. Even if you arrive in your Boat and dock, you still have to call in and register.
GE appears to be going the same direction by the way. Not sure if it's the same elsewhere but at DTW you do the GE kiosk thing, then wait in line to speak with an agent sitting at a podium, then you're fed into the customs lane with everyone else. Still fast, but they're definitely tightening up as more and more people enroll in these programs.