Anyone Ever Get Turned Down for Global Entry?
#421
If APC still requires standard customs inspection, then GE still wins. My first time using GE, there was a line at LAX that snaked around the carousels for normal processing. I bypassed that, going into the empty GE lane.
Plus, Pre-Check.
Plus, Pre-Check.
#422
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APC doesn't get a fast track between the baggage claim area and the exit door for the final inspection area. That is indeed too where GE's value remains substantial too, but usually those lines move very quickly even when very long.
One-stop is very convenient but that is if those rather rare one-stop lines are no longer busy with flight crew members (US or otherwise). I've only seen this at two airports since it was started at least four years ago, and there too ATS was used by CBP and a referal to secondary for admissibility, customs, agriculture or other security inspections was possible whether or not ATS dependent. Back then they didn't have GE or APC kiosks when using One-Stop, but it was supposed to change at ORD and IAH in one way or another. Airport owners/operators, airlines and CBP seem to have not been as interested in One-Stop expansion as with GE and APC.
One-stop is very convenient but that is if those rather rare one-stop lines are no longer busy with flight crew members (US or otherwise). I've only seen this at two airports since it was started at least four years ago, and there too ATS was used by CBP and a referal to secondary for admissibility, customs, agriculture or other security inspections was possible whether or not ATS dependent. Back then they didn't have GE or APC kiosks when using One-Stop, but it was supposed to change at ORD and IAH in one way or another. Airport owners/operators, airlines and CBP seem to have not been as interested in One-Stop expansion as with GE and APC.
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APC doesn't get a fast track between the baggage claim area and the exit door for the final inspection area. That is indeed too where GE's value remains substantial too, but usually those lines move very quickly even when very long.
One-stop is very convenient but that is if those rather rare one-stop lines are no longer busy with flight crew members (US or otherwise). I've only seen this at two airports since it was started at least four years ago, and there too ATS was used by CBP and a referal to secondary for admissibility, customs, agriculture or other security inspections was possible whether or not ATS dependent. Back then they didn't have GE or APC kiosks when using One-Stop, but it was supposed to change at ORD and IAH in one way or another. Airport owners/operators, airlines and CBP seem to have not been as interested in One-Stop expansion as with GE and APC.
One-stop is very convenient but that is if those rather rare one-stop lines are no longer busy with flight crew members (US or otherwise). I've only seen this at two airports since it was started at least four years ago, and there too ATS was used by CBP and a referal to secondary for admissibility, customs, agriculture or other security inspections was possible whether or not ATS dependent. Back then they didn't have GE or APC kiosks when using One-Stop, but it was supposed to change at ORD and IAH in one way or another. Airport owners/operators, airlines and CBP seem to have not been as interested in One-Stop expansion as with GE and APC.
For GE (and now APC at ORD and IAH) one can turn left instead of right and just walk out without the customs line, which can still be a time savings.
Somewhat ironically at IAH to exit via one-stop and the carry-on only line one has to walk around the secondary customs area where you get a view of all those having bag searches (though they are building a corridor to avoid that in the future).
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After a a set of dedicated kiosks, you are diverted you so that you avoid the entire entry/customs/baggage area, it's amazing as long as not crowded. Started n DFW in July. ORD has it too, I believe.
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Hopefully it keeps expanding, both for GE and the general traveler.
#426
Join Date: May 2013
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Anyone want to play armchair lawyer for me?
Yes, I realize soliciting advice/opinions on FT isn't a great resource, however a second opinion is never a bad thing in my mind.
I always tend to get a little worried sending anything before a judge, and after my GE interview I have a need to obtain a certified copy of an expunged/sealed charge from a few years back showing the disposition of the charges. Without a judges approval, the Clerk of Court can't open/obtain a copy of the disposition to certify.
Unfortunately the CBPO was unwilling to accept the copy of the disposition I had on me, as it wasn't certified.
What I have so far:
Yes, I realize soliciting advice/opinions on FT isn't a great resource, however a second opinion is never a bad thing in my mind.
I always tend to get a little worried sending anything before a judge, and after my GE interview I have a need to obtain a certified copy of an expunged/sealed charge from a few years back showing the disposition of the charges. Without a judges approval, the Clerk of Court can't open/obtain a copy of the disposition to certify.
Unfortunately the CBPO was unwilling to accept the copy of the disposition I had on me, as it wasn't certified.
What I have so far:
FULLNAME
MYSTREET
MYCITYSTATEZIP
January 28, 2015
Judge of the NUMBER District of STATE
STREET
CITY STATE ZIP
Dear Judge,
I am writing in regards to Case# CASEID, which was ordered sealed and expunged from the record after completion of probation on DATE, in order to obtain a certified copy of the disposition as requested by Customs and Border Patrol Officer OFFICERNAME in relation to my application for Global Entry with the Customs and Border Patrol Office. As per the direction of the Clerk of Court, I’m writing to request the file be unsealed long enough to obtain a certified copy of the disposition and resealed after the fact.
Respectfully,
SIGNATURE
FULL NAME
DOB
MYSTREET
MYCITYSTATEZIP
January 28, 2015
Judge of the NUMBER District of STATE
STREET
CITY STATE ZIP
Dear Judge,
I am writing in regards to Case# CASEID, which was ordered sealed and expunged from the record after completion of probation on DATE, in order to obtain a certified copy of the disposition as requested by Customs and Border Patrol Officer OFFICERNAME in relation to my application for Global Entry with the Customs and Border Patrol Office. As per the direction of the Clerk of Court, I’m writing to request the file be unsealed long enough to obtain a certified copy of the disposition and resealed after the fact.
Respectfully,
SIGNATURE
FULL NAME
DOB
#427
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Anyone want to play armchair lawyer for me?
Yes, I realize soliciting advice/opinions on FT isn't a great resource, however a second opinion is never a bad thing in my mind.
I always tend to get a little worried sending anything before a judge, and after my GE interview I have a need to obtain a certified copy of an expunged/sealed charge from a few years back showing the disposition of the charges. Without a judges approval, the Clerk of Court can't open/obtain a copy of the disposition to certify.
Unfortunately the CBPO was unwilling to accept the copy of the disposition I had on me, as it wasn't certified.
What I have so far:
Yes, I realize soliciting advice/opinions on FT isn't a great resource, however a second opinion is never a bad thing in my mind.
I always tend to get a little worried sending anything before a judge, and after my GE interview I have a need to obtain a certified copy of an expunged/sealed charge from a few years back showing the disposition of the charges. Without a judges approval, the Clerk of Court can't open/obtain a copy of the disposition to certify.
Unfortunately the CBPO was unwilling to accept the copy of the disposition I had on me, as it wasn't certified.
What I have so far:
My take-away from all of this is that even if you are initially rejected there is some hope of the ombudsman process working.
#428
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Anyone want to play armchair lawyer for me?
Yes, I realize soliciting advice/opinions on FT isn't a great resource, however a second opinion is never a bad thing in my mind.
I always tend to get a little worried sending anything before a judge, and after my GE interview I have a need to obtain a certified copy of an expunged/sealed charge from a few years back showing the disposition of the charges. Without a judges approval, the Clerk of Court can't open/obtain a copy of the disposition to certify.
Unfortunately the CBPO was unwilling to accept the copy of the disposition I had on me, as it wasn't certified.
What I have so far:
Yes, I realize soliciting advice/opinions on FT isn't a great resource, however a second opinion is never a bad thing in my mind.
I always tend to get a little worried sending anything before a judge, and after my GE interview I have a need to obtain a certified copy of an expunged/sealed charge from a few years back showing the disposition of the charges. Without a judges approval, the Clerk of Court can't open/obtain a copy of the disposition to certify.
Unfortunately the CBPO was unwilling to accept the copy of the disposition I had on me, as it wasn't certified.
What I have so far:
I'm definitely in the camp of "lawyers have enough clients/income without drumming up business for them" But, if anyone gets to a stage where they think a lawyer would be of help-- and it 'aint cheap, BTW-- I'd be happy to provide name. He specializes in immigration, aviation and labor law matters, so not saying he specializes in this exact thing, but I was very, very happy with his representation and expertise.
#429
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Anyone want to play armchair lawyer for me?
Yes, I realize soliciting advice/opinions on FT isn't a great resource, however a second opinion is never a bad thing in my mind.
I always tend to get a little worried sending anything before a judge, and after my GE interview I have a need to obtain a certified copy of an expunged/sealed charge from a few years back showing the disposition of the charges. Without a judges approval, the Clerk of Court can't open/obtain a copy of the disposition to certify.
Unfortunately the CBPO was unwilling to accept the copy of the disposition I had on me, as it wasn't certified.
What I have so far:
Yes, I realize soliciting advice/opinions on FT isn't a great resource, however a second opinion is never a bad thing in my mind.
I always tend to get a little worried sending anything before a judge, and after my GE interview I have a need to obtain a certified copy of an expunged/sealed charge from a few years back showing the disposition of the charges. Without a judges approval, the Clerk of Court can't open/obtain a copy of the disposition to certify.
Unfortunately the CBPO was unwilling to accept the copy of the disposition I had on me, as it wasn't certified.
What I have so far:
#430
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I appreciate your not wanting to have any personal information in the letter, but the state would be helpful. Different states have different laws. I'm a lawyer. My state doesn't seal files so I'm not interested in your business, but my Westlaw plan has statutes for fifty states. If you let me know the state, I can at least send you the applicable statute. Feel free to PM me.
#431
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No. I am saying that if the state was hypothetically Iowa, I would send him privately the Iowa statute governing access to sealed files so he'd have a better idea what was involved in getting access to purchase a certified copy of the record. I'm saying that I'm not trolling for business but simply willing to do the guy a five minute favor since I have a 50 state Westlaw plan.
#433
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What was your answer when the officer asked if you were ever arrested? Do you have the court order setting aside the DUI conviction?
#434
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People can and do succeed in appealing to the ombusman. But you might wanna consult with someone and figure out what you wanna say compared to what you've already said/not said for greatest chances of success, IMO.
#435
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