Dresscode on Commercial flights in First Class
May 28, 2009, 11:59 am
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Apparently, I don't meet dress code requirements...
I was wearing jeans, a t-shirt and a baseball cap for a domestic flight in F.
None of my clothes were wrinkly, I just looked casual.
As F began boarding, I merged in with the others. A woman looks at me and sneers: "This is the first class line", to which I responded: "Good, I must be in the right place then". She turned around and didn't say anything anymore.
Maybe I should put on that penguin suit after all, next time.
I was wearing jeans, a t-shirt and a baseball cap for a domestic flight in F.
None of my clothes were wrinkly, I just looked casual.
As F began boarding, I merged in with the others. A woman looks at me and sneers: "This is the first class line", to which I responded: "Good, I must be in the right place then". She turned around and didn't say anything anymore.
Maybe I should put on that penguin suit after all, next time.
May 28, 2009, 12:32 pm
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The initial thread: 'appropriate in f'
Looks like the thread--while chatting about clothes--has become about that old familiar theme 'hate the rich' and 'class hatred'.
Clothes and fashion:
Anyone can look good at any price today. So it's no longer about price or 'rich' (meaningless expression these days), or 'snobs' or 'looking rich'.
F and all other classes: How to travel:
Travel as you would go about your life--well-groomed, tidy, appropriate to the place, time, current styles, and season. Wear clothes that are appropriate to the setting. In a multi-star restaurant like the French Laundry, which is in the country, some men wear suits, or they turn up well-groomed and in nice fresh laundered (ha) shirts and slacks, polished shoes; and women wear a variety of outfits from luxurious jackets and major jewelry to country chic linen blouses and simple accessories, but all well-groomed, polished.
In F or anywhere: Wear clothes for travel,whatever your style and taste, that are pressed, clean--and especially clothes that fit and are flattering. The difference, many times, between a Parisian woman's chic outfit and, let's say, a London woman's outfit, is that French women get their tailor or seamstress to fit the coat or jacket perfectly. It may be from H&M, but the fit is perfect and flattering.
It's also in the demeanor: a slob looks antisocial. OK, go ahead and look like a sack of potatoes if looking 'out of it' and grubby gives you pleasure.
A well-dressed person (could be wearing a brilliant clean and pressed outfit from Goodwill!) presents themselves well, no matter the budget. They clean their shoes (could be from a charity shop) and are not 'in your face'.
In F: be considerate of others, espec FAs. Don't make a spectacle of yourself. Be polite and thoughtful, not intrusive on others. Look smart, not slobby.
Clothes: it's not about money!
What to wear in F or any other class: Make an effort. Be discreet.
And don't waste your time or emotions imagining that someone is rich or poor, based on your guess of how much their clothes cost (and the fact that they are in F).
Get over class hatred or loathing. Read a book, study, send a love letter instead.
Clothes and fashion:
Anyone can look good at any price today. So it's no longer about price or 'rich' (meaningless expression these days), or 'snobs' or 'looking rich'.
F and all other classes: How to travel:
Travel as you would go about your life--well-groomed, tidy, appropriate to the place, time, current styles, and season. Wear clothes that are appropriate to the setting. In a multi-star restaurant like the French Laundry, which is in the country, some men wear suits, or they turn up well-groomed and in nice fresh laundered (ha) shirts and slacks, polished shoes; and women wear a variety of outfits from luxurious jackets and major jewelry to country chic linen blouses and simple accessories, but all well-groomed, polished.
In F or anywhere: Wear clothes for travel,whatever your style and taste, that are pressed, clean--and especially clothes that fit and are flattering. The difference, many times, between a Parisian woman's chic outfit and, let's say, a London woman's outfit, is that French women get their tailor or seamstress to fit the coat or jacket perfectly. It may be from H&M, but the fit is perfect and flattering.
It's also in the demeanor: a slob looks antisocial. OK, go ahead and look like a sack of potatoes if looking 'out of it' and grubby gives you pleasure.
A well-dressed person (could be wearing a brilliant clean and pressed outfit from Goodwill!) presents themselves well, no matter the budget. They clean their shoes (could be from a charity shop) and are not 'in your face'.
In F: be considerate of others, espec FAs. Don't make a spectacle of yourself. Be polite and thoughtful, not intrusive on others. Look smart, not slobby.
Clothes: it's not about money!
What to wear in F or any other class: Make an effort. Be discreet.
And don't waste your time or emotions imagining that someone is rich or poor, based on your guess of how much their clothes cost (and the fact that they are in F).
Get over class hatred or loathing. Read a book, study, send a love letter instead.
May 28, 2009, 12:44 pm
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You say that like it's a bad thing! Airplanes, IMO are not a place to be sociable. If my outfit when flying says "leave me alone so that I can sleep/read/watch the movie," well, good! That's exactly what I want out of a flight.
Why? Casual fabrics these days don't need it. They've even got 100% cotton now that doesn't need it as long as they come out of the dryer and get hung/folded promptly, forget about the old poly and cotton-poly blends that were the 1970s version of "permanent press."
I've got a couple of shirts that need ironing, and a couple of dry-clean-only suits. They come out for weddings, funerals, and the occasional particularly formal dinner. All told, they get worn around once a year. I might need them for interviews (or even daily at work) if I changed industries, but on my own time? Forget about it.
Wear clothes [...] that are pressed
I've got a couple of shirts that need ironing, and a couple of dry-clean-only suits. They come out for weddings, funerals, and the occasional particularly formal dinner. All told, they get worn around once a year. I might need them for interviews (or even daily at work) if I changed industries, but on my own time? Forget about it.
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May 28, 2009, 12:46 pm
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I'm thinking of wearing a short sleeved shirt, short pants, and a nice attitude to bear.. Do you think it's appropriate for International F?
May 28, 2009, 12:51 pm
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Looks like the thread--while chatting about clothes--has become about that old familiar theme 'hate the rich' and 'class hatred'.
Clothes and fashion:
Anyone can look good at any price today. So it's no longer about price or 'rich' (meaningless expression these days), or 'snobs' or 'looking rich'.
F and all other classes: How to travel:
Travel as you would go about your life--well-groomed, tidy, appropriate to the place, time, current styles, and season. Wear clothes that are appropriate to the setting. In a multi-star restaurant like the French Laundry, which is in the country, some men wear suits, or they turn up well-groomed and in nice fresh laundered (ha) shirts and slacks, polished shoes; and women wear a variety of outfits from luxurious jackets and major jewelry to country chic linen blouses and simple accessories, but all well-groomed, polished.
In F or anywhere: Wear clothes for travel,whatever your style and taste, that are pressed, clean--and especially clothes that fit and are flattering. The difference, many times, between a Parisian woman's chic outfit and, let's say, a London woman's outfit, is that French women get their tailor or seamstress to fit the coat or jacket perfectly. It may be from H&M, but the fit is perfect and flattering.
It's also in the demeanor: a slob looks antisocial. OK, go ahead and look like a sack of potatoes if looking 'out of it' and grubby gives you pleasure.
A well-dressed person (could be wearing a brilliant clean and pressed outfit from Goodwill!) presents themselves well, no matter the budget. They clean their shoes (could be from a charity shop) and are not 'in your face'.
In F: be considerate of others, espec FAs. Don't make a spectacle of yourself. Be polite and thoughtful, not intrusive on others. Look smart, not slobby.
Clothes: it's not about money!
What to wear in F or any other class: Make an effort. Be discreet.
And don't waste your time or emotions imagining that someone is rich or poor, based on your guess of how much their clothes cost (and the fact that they are in F).
Get over class hatred or loathing. Read a book, study, send a love letter instead.
Clothes and fashion:
Anyone can look good at any price today. So it's no longer about price or 'rich' (meaningless expression these days), or 'snobs' or 'looking rich'.
F and all other classes: How to travel:
Travel as you would go about your life--well-groomed, tidy, appropriate to the place, time, current styles, and season. Wear clothes that are appropriate to the setting. In a multi-star restaurant like the French Laundry, which is in the country, some men wear suits, or they turn up well-groomed and in nice fresh laundered (ha) shirts and slacks, polished shoes; and women wear a variety of outfits from luxurious jackets and major jewelry to country chic linen blouses and simple accessories, but all well-groomed, polished.
In F or anywhere: Wear clothes for travel,whatever your style and taste, that are pressed, clean--and especially clothes that fit and are flattering. The difference, many times, between a Parisian woman's chic outfit and, let's say, a London woman's outfit, is that French women get their tailor or seamstress to fit the coat or jacket perfectly. It may be from H&M, but the fit is perfect and flattering.
It's also in the demeanor: a slob looks antisocial. OK, go ahead and look like a sack of potatoes if looking 'out of it' and grubby gives you pleasure.
A well-dressed person (could be wearing a brilliant clean and pressed outfit from Goodwill!) presents themselves well, no matter the budget. They clean their shoes (could be from a charity shop) and are not 'in your face'.
In F: be considerate of others, espec FAs. Don't make a spectacle of yourself. Be polite and thoughtful, not intrusive on others. Look smart, not slobby.
Clothes: it's not about money!
What to wear in F or any other class: Make an effort. Be discreet.
And don't waste your time or emotions imagining that someone is rich or poor, based on your guess of how much their clothes cost (and the fact that they are in F).
Get over class hatred or loathing. Read a book, study, send a love letter instead.
And I have to say, I was in the LAX AA AC last night and there was a group of rockers in tank tops, typical rocker jeans, and long hair (they without a doubt stood out). But I will say that they were very quite, not drunk like shunks, and the one band member that was asking questions of a front desk person was doing so in a very polite manner.
May 28, 2009, 1:03 pm
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Sheesh, when did we all become so hung up on this?
Okay, question: Let's say I'm booked in coach but hoping to get a battlefield upgrade. Should I bring a suit and tie to change into if I get upgraded? Can I jump into a bathroom stall and come out instantly in my new clothes, just like Superman?
Mike
May 28, 2009, 1:36 pm
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May 28, 2009, 3:02 pm
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It's either that or changing the pants into a longer one and carry a sports coat.. It's casual and not too overkill
Sheesh, when did we all become so hung up on this?
Okay, question: Let's say I'm booked in coach but hoping to get a battlefield upgrade. Should I bring a suit and tie to change into if I get upgraded? Can I jump into a bathroom stall and come out instantly in my new clothes, just like Superman?
May 30, 2009, 3:12 pm
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You're probably going to laugh but WWE does.
May 31, 2009, 12:39 am
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I usually wear a collared shirt (usually my football club's travelling polo shirt), jeans and a pair of sneakers, and I'll wear that whatever class I'm travelling in, never had anyone complain (well apart from people that don't like my Football Club).
Jun 2, 2009, 11:51 am
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Footie fan
OK.... Football fans often identify with the team and want to draw attention to pride in the team.
The 'football club's traveling polo shirt' ? What colors?
There is something about the statement 'I'll wear that whatever class I'm traveling in' that reminds me of a young boy wanting to wear his Superman outfit everywhere.It's a bit like a 6-year-old saying "you are not the boss of me, I'll wear what I like' to parents.
Question: are you well-groomed and discreet or so you look like a dog's dinner or like you have had a three-dog night?
Jun 2, 2009, 1:19 pm
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Betcha’ a golf shirt with an embroidered Amway logo would do the same thing.